Men In Nursing Issues - page 4

by adpie28

I need your input! I am in a debate in nursing school. The topic is "Men in Nursing." (I'm on the "pro" side of the debate). If any of you have ever had an experience with a male nurse, or you are one, please, send me your... Read More


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    I am a male RN. I highly doubt that my open chest, IABP and centrally cannulated ECMO female patient or her family have an issue with me touching such patient. I guess my definition of nursing and genders play a different role in my specialty. My advice, Focus yourself in the things that matter and stop the nonsense.
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    Why should you need a man to move a patient?
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    Quote from YoungStud
    Gender doesn't really matter except maybe in OB
    As there are no male OB/Gyns out there. Really?
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    Quote from man-nurse2b
    Yeah adpie28 we all understand that, but let me be really blunt.

    If it was just a gender issue and sexual harassment was the concern, then why is it not the same attitude across the board with male doctors? For example, in clinicals, the nurse would like have to announce to the female patient that "HEY WE GOT A MALE NURSE STUDENT COMING IN YOUR ROOM, IS THAT OK?"...yet you never hear "HEY WAS GOT A MALE DOCTOR COMING IN YOUR ROOM IS THAT OK?".
    Why are male nurses being treated like pedophiles and sex predators and male doctors are not? This in itself conflicts with another male nurse stereotype that all male nurses are gay. You figure that one out cause its all up in society's head and in the patient's head that male nurses are perverts and male doctors are medical professionals. I know that in private offices there are females who go to particular female doctors, but looking at say OB/GYN,a lot of those doctors are males, my wife had one, and there is no issue. Then if you look at coming to a hospital, most patients have no choice in what gender doctor they get, yet we give them a gender choice in what nurse they get? What are we really saying?
    And on the flip side, male patients never get the announcement ""HEY WE GOT A FEMALE NURSE STUDENT COMING IN YOUR ROOM, IS THAT OK?" so what the heck? And don't tell me that crap about female nurses don't talk about some of the male privates that they see(i don't mean sexually), cause I've heard it from their own mouths.
    I've said this in forums before, in my view that whole gender announcement by our nurses needs to go away and the patient needs to be stuck with what ever gender they get and if they don't like it then they can take their sick butts and crawl to another hospital. The only time gender should be a concern is if it was like a rape case or something like that. So the issue is its not a gender bias in the medical profession, its a gender bias with male nurses.
    I still remember my first emergency pregnancy way back when I was an EMT, and you know what I remember most? My female counterpart was flipping out cause it was her first too and she was scared at what to do and I had to take charge...She was like we have to get her to the ambulance now! I was like, there is crowning, this baby is coming now and their's no way we would make it to the hospital, we have to deliver. I've been in lots of situations where I noticed male nurses tend to be more calm and directed and that is good for the profession, if we don't see that, will then we are lost as a society.
    You bring up many good points, for the most part I agree. What I'm getting from the OP is that, while gender discrimination is not ok, it's still a part of reality. I understand others comments about why this is even a subject in this day and age but lets face it people...big or small it is. I actually enjoyed the discussion. And really, honest discussion, in part, is what helps us to understand the problem, as big or small as it may be, which we need in order to correct the problem. I disagree, in part, with your comments about what you get,male or female, is what you get. What I mean is, I try to make my patients as comfortable is possible. I am female and work in psych. If I have a male pt and I have male staff available, I will utilize male staff in assisting my pt, for ex, with using a bed pan or urinal if say the pt is in restraints. If male staff is not available I have no problem doing this myself. And let me say, doing it myself was the norm for me until I just got used to the males around me saying they would do it in order to make the pt more comfortable. Many times I was grabbing gloves and heading into a pts room when I was stopped for this reason. Personally, I don't think men and women are equal....however I believe they should be treated equal. If I have a pt that is aggressive and has assaulted staff I may feel a tad safer with a male around. However, I work with males who are so oblivious to what is going on that I may feel safer and more comfortable with certain females. When it comes down to it, yes, males in nursing are the minority but that doesn't mean any given female rn is better than any given male. Like any situation you have bad and good on both sexes. I have no problem seeing a male provider for female issues and feel it should be the same for nurses. My point is ...is this a problem the profession still faces? Yes. Is it justified? No. But open, honest discussion is appropriate to me for trying to understand and improve on the problem.
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    Quote from leatrn44
    You bring up many good points, for the most part I agree. What I'm getting from the OP is that, while gender discrimination is not ok, it's still a part of reality. I understand others comments about why this is even a subject in this day and age but lets face it people...big or small it is. I actually enjoyed the discussion. And really, honest discussion, in part, is what helps us to understand the problem, as big or small as it may be, which we need in order to correct the problem. I disagree, in part, with your comments about what you get,male or female, is what you get. What I mean is, I try to make my patients as comfortable is possible. I am female and work in psych. If I have a male pt and I have male staff available, I will utilize male staff in assisting my pt, for ex, with using a bed pan or urinal if say the pt is in restraints. If male staff is not available I have no problem doing this myself. And let me say, doing it myself was the norm for me until I just got used to the males around me saying they would do it in order to make the pt more comfortable. Many times I was grabbing gloves and heading into a pts room when I was stopped for this reason. Personally, I don't think men and women are equal....however I believe they should be treated equal. If I have a pt that is aggressive and has assaulted staff I may feel a tad safer with a male around. However, I work with males who are so oblivious to what is going on that I may feel safer and more comfortable with certain females. When it comes down to it, yes, males in nursing are the minority but that doesn't mean any given female rn is better than any given male. Like any situation you have bad and good on both sexes. I have no problem seeing a male provider for female issues and feel it should be the same for nurses. My point is ...is this a problem the profession still faces? Yes. Is it justified? No. But open, honest discussion is appropriate to me for trying to understand and improve on the problem.
    Personally, I don't think men and women are equal....however I believe they should be treated equal.
    I just wonder who you think are the lesser and the greater?
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    Quote from aklgap

    Personally, I don't think men and women are equal....however I believe they should be treated equal.
    I just wonder who you think are the lesser and the greater?
    May not have been the best way to say. But in general, I think women are more sensitive than men, I think woman are more gossipy than men, I think men are physically stronger, I think woman cry more than men. Just a few silly examples of how I believe the sexes are different and not the same across the board. So while I did say I don't think they are equal I don't believe one is lesser than the other.
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    According to me, men also can take up nursing as a career. There are institutes that promote nursing courses for both men and women. There are many jobs that can be taken up by men too. This shows us that there is equal need of male as well as female nurses. The thing that matters the most is from which institute you complete your course. You should opt for good and reputed institution that are well registered. It is you who has to first find all the details of where you are planning to do the course from.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Aug 19, '13 : Reason: TOS/solicitation/advertisment
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    I think for the next debate you should suggest -

    The pros and cons of women with children working as nurses or
    Should homosexuals (male or female) be allowed to work as nurses.

    Yes I am being sarcastic. But trying to make the point thatdebating these subjects are just as ludicrous as debating pros and cons of men in nursing. Perpetuates ignorant, backwards stereotypes.

    Actually I rarely participate in this forum because that it pretty much what it is about.
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