Nursing Schools september 2011, where did you apply? - page 2
Hello! I was just wondering where everyone applied for Nursing in September 2011. I have applied to Ryerson, Ryerson-George Brown, Mohawk-McMaster, Georgian-York, St.Lawrence-Laurentian, and St. Clair-Windsor. I have been... Read More
- 0Jun 19, '11 by danamossQuote from studentnurse9Hi!
Are you taking the BScN or PN course? They are both difficult! REGULAR university degrees have only 4 classes per semester. The BScN program has 7 in the first semester and 6 in the second semester. In second year, I hear that its going to be 5 courses on top of 16 hours/week in the hospital. PN is even worse- they have 9 classes per semester. Anyways it isn't so much about the difficulty of the work (with the exception of anatomy) as the quantity. You have 3 hours for almost every class, multiplied by 6-7 depending on the semester. After all this class time you MUST study (aka do the readings) on your own time, otherwise you'll have no clue what they're talking about in your classes. (Do yourself a favour and do the readings BEFORE the class each week, you'll thank yourself at exam time lol) I've definitely seen people cry many, many times and am certainly guilty of it too haha. Its just very stressful, I wrote about 16-20 papers this year on top of 26 exams (midterms and finals for each semester) on top of about an hours worth of reading per week per class. In classes like assessment and practice (the "real" nursing classes, where you learn the skills) you'll have competency tests on top of all of this work, which means that you'll have to memorize 2 semesters worth of information and demonstrate what you know in 20 minutes for 15-30% of your mark lol. The purpose of these is to test whether or not you can be trusted with a patient in clinical, lol, but surprisingly a lot of people would have failed clinical if they hadn't been forced to memorize the information for the test, so they're helpful in the long run. All in all you will feel stressed and pushed beyond your limit, but you'll also make some amazing friendships and learn if its right for you by the end of the year. By second semester, our group of friends would go drinking after every test and assignment lol and when you get to clinical it will all be worth it. Clinical truly made me realize and appreciate why I wanted to do nursing in the first place, it was a great experience and I felt amazing to be helping my clients (by the way, in nursing school patients are called 'clients' haha). And the prep courses will probably help- I took AP courses in high school and have found that my writing skills are a lot better than many of my peers in some cases, so the extra work does pay off . I know this is a realllllllyyyy long post but I'm going to finish it with a list of how myself and others survived:
- keep on top of assignments and due dates. it sounds simple but a lot of people failed simply because they procrastinated.
- the lessons go by chapters of the text in most cases. I would recommend buying the MAJOR texts (ie for assessment, anatomy, and practice) and reading at least the first half of each text BEFORE school starts, or during the first 2 weeks.
- The first 2-3 weeks are EASY. Don't let that fool you into slacking! Just stay on top of the readings, or do extra readings during those weeks.
- Buy a laptop. Seriously, unless you want your hand to fall off lol. Most people have one. It's also convenient because most of the profs will post the slides on WEBct the week before. Download these so that you can follow along during the lectures
-When you do the readings, take notes. This way you will have the CORE info that the prof is talking about, plus the details that they don't have time to cover.
- Make a study group. It sounds a bit lame, but a lot of us got by this year because we did the whole 'divide and conquer' thing.
- start studying for tests a minimum of 1 week ahead. You'll love yourself for it when you have an A!
Just work hard and you'll see the rewards when you get to clinical
If this msg posts twice sorry- my original technically "solicits" selling textbooks and they've taken down my msgs for that before, lol.
Thanks Studentnurse9 for all the insight, certainly all the info is greatly appreciated and helps a lot understanding the pain nursing students go through. I started doing a lot of research about the program after I got my acceptance for the RN program and to be honest I'm expecting difficult times ahead (just being realistic). Im 100% sure you will make a great nurse. Your study plans are great and looks like you're extremly organized. Here we both have a match. You're right about studying for the exams ahead of time (at least one week before) and I'm used to doing that since this is what I have been doing for the past year or so while in school taking prep couses.
I think the prep courses will help me a lot, although all I studied was bio and chemistry but I have to say I love both subjects. (I know it's weird but I actually enjoyed chemistry) Time management is something that I'm used too. I was forced to learn how to divide my time to study and keep up with my family but I also had lot's of help.(talk about family support.... priceless). I tend to memorize a lot but I "dig" the subjects to the point where everyting must make sense. The amount of work-load you're describing is indeed overwhelming. Mid-terms and final exams are scarry on their own, never mind the 2 semester competency test and oh yes, the 20-26 papers you mentioned. How on earth can you come up with that many papers in such a short time? What scares me the most? PAPERS. Papers take me the longest. I can spend 8 hours writing an essay including research. (english is my second language) Putting the papers on the side, I think being positive is extremly important while in nursing school. Hang out with people that actually enjoy nursing school and you will learn to enjoy the program too.
I enjoyed reading your post and I will retain a copy of it and will follow your advice diligently. If I'm not asking too much, perhaps you could let me know which text books I should buy? Thank you again for your post! Loved it!
- 0Jun 20, '11 by caitkingi took pre-health, and i'm accepted to mohawk-mcmaster! congrats to all of you! it was really tough to get into the mo-mac program, i finished pre-health semester one with 95.5% average, so i got in! now i'm just finishing pre-health through the summer, and attending b.s.c.n in the fall! i've already gone to the academic advisement meeting, and started all of my clearances. theres alot involved! good luck to all of you still waiting on a response from your program of choice!
and studentnurse9 thanks for your long post! great to hear some advice before we start
- 0Jul 1, '11 by studentnurse9Hey,
So I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly which textbooks you need, since Humber and Ryerson might differ. Personally, I used:
physical examination and health assessment - carolyn jarvis. This book is one that would help you get ahead even if you don't use it at Humber; it shows all the diagnostic tests and normal/abnormal findings during the physical
Canadian Fundamentals of Nursing- Potter & Perry. This one is also an all-over nursing text, and covers everything from professionalism to immunizations and PPE. It's good, but also contains 1000+ pages and the program doesn't cover all of the info.
Human Anatomy and Physiology- Elaine N. Marieb. This book is one that I would borrow and study BEFORE school begins. The anatomy course covers each chapter, and ALL OF THE INFO is essential. It's the one with the diver on the front, blue background. If I was you, I would beging by reading the chapter to absorb, then skimming over afterwards to take notes about the most important points. I think you'll do well in this class simply because you need to know how and why everything works, and thats exactly how you need to study to ace this course.
Psychology: the adaptive mind 3rd edition. This is also a straightforward text to study, its basically psych 101.
The rest are all texts that you can wait until Sept to buy/read. They are :
Interpersonal relationships: professional communication skills for nurses- Arnold & Boggs
The Art of Nursing: a practical introduction- Cooper
The APA Handbook- 6th edition (done by American Psych. Association). You may think you know your apa, but trust me- I have yet to get a perfect APA score on any paper. Buy the guide- its a MUST
Nutrition for your personal life and professional practice- McGraw-Hill. This text was done specifically by Ryerson I believe, so I'm not sure you'd be able to get it.
Then there's supplementary texts- medical terminology guides, and medical dictionaries/encylopedias. Do I use them? Sometimes. I usually prefer to look things up on the web, but sometimes with medical jargon they can be hard to find. When in doubt, use your encyclopedia lol. The medical terminology books are good to have though AND do OVER THE SUMMER because there's a LOT of terminology that you will have to know come septemeber and beyond and these books help prepare you. I guarentee you'll be ahead if you learn the lingo now
Its also important because there is a standard for using short-terms in charting, and you can't make up your own or guess for obvious reasons lol
Good Luck to you
If you have any more questions or need help during first year, feel free to ask!