CMK Healthcare LPN Program - page 4

My friend is looking at attending an LPN school soon and she found out about CMK's LPN program. The cost of tuition is around $15,000 and the program is for 10 months. CMK also has an agreement... Read More

  1. Visit  BryanL profile page
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    Quote from Magelan
    Bryan, you sound like advisor from Americare

    I haven't heard much good things about Americare either... Even when I was there, I didn't have such a good impression... And the total price is higher than in CMK - at that moment when I was making inquiry it was more than 18k...
    Magellan,

    Nice try...

    In this forum, so far, you've endorsed CMK a total of five times on Sept 15, 17, 20, 21. You've used the following sentences in describing them. From the sound of it, I thought you were related to the owner or the owner.

    • " I would recommend this school",
    • "[CMK] in Westmont is very nice,
    • "Everything connected with Community Colleges is wasting of time". (Seriously?)

    Never have I used such strong endorsement like that when referring to Americare Institute.

    So tell me...

    How many private LPN schools have you visited before making your decision?

    Really, why did you choose CMK over these private schools listed below? The school has no NCLEX pass rate history. No PELL grant. No federal student loans. No accreditation. Has no graduates. Requires $2,000 deposit. And has a monthly payment of $1,300 payable in 10 months (I know I went there to inquire about their program.)

    Really, why choose them?

    Show your critical thinking skills when presenting your arguments. You need to think logically to pass NCLEX. Avoid subjective words like "nice" and "impression". Be concrete and show evidence. Convince me. Because I'm all ears.

    • CMK
    • PCCTI
    • Northwestern Institute
    • Americare Technical School
    • J'Renne
    • Omega
    • Americare Technical School
    • International Career Institute

    I'm waiting Magellan...
  2. Visit  Magelan profile page
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    You could find the answer on all your questions if you read my posts.



    So I’ll start. Again:
    • I’ve finished CNA in that school and I was very hapy with their program.
    • Why should I commute to Glendale Heights or Westmont from SouthSide of Chicago if they are not so good? PCCTI is almost in front of my nose, and Northwestern is 30 minutes driving from my apartment (yes, I’ve visited both of these schools, and Americare in Schaumburg as well)
    • The school IS accreditated for you information and since they have started with LPN this march there are no NCLEX pass rates because first group will exit the test next year
    • For all these financial aids and loans I’m ineligible
    • I was looking for program that has less number of prerequisites and clock hours from others. I have medical background, I have dental doctor degree from Europe (the other story is that I need at least 4 years for endorsement) so I needed the shortest program in order to start to do something decent here in USA. So I don’t need hours and hours of studying in order to become a LPN.
    • After 20 years in schools, I really don’t need another 3 or 4 in Community College to waist (Would you do that if you were in my shoes Bryan?!)
    • Sincerely, only in CMK I had been well treated. Advisors in other schools were either arrogant or unfriendly so I didn’t want to have anything with them. The last thing I need is that someone bothers me every second day over the phone (like people from Northwestern and PCCTI) and I don’t want to someone brings me out of class physically because I didn’t pay the same day they wanted.
    Was it enough Bryan? I really don’t like your accusations and your tone…
    My opinion is only mine, so stop to bother me and other people who you dissagree with these stupidities
    Last edit by Magelan on Oct 27, '10
  3. Visit  sgthanzo profile page
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    At the end of the day, I think what matters most is how you (the student) feel you're being treated at your preferred school; and of course, the result of your NCLEX at the end of your program.

    I'm sure CMK, just like the rest of the private schools, are doing their best to offer the average student the most affordable, yet the most result-oriented LPN program they could offer.

    I also don't think one student championing the cause of one school, be it CMK or another school is a bad thing at all -- as I'm sure students from the other schools who are happy with their choice can/should do all that they can to spread "their" own "success stories and good news."

    We all just need to be careful in the way that we post our own 'version of the truth' about the school(s) that we didn't choose -- especially when we don't have "first-hand" information at said schools. Doing so creates an atmosphere of unhealthy competition that doesn't serve the general student population. More so, misinformation only confuses the prospective candidates even more; thereby delaying their entry to their 'preferred' school and delaying the much needed production of licensed nurses.

    In the end... as most PN feasibility study shows, the number of our aging population and those in need of health care will continue to increase at a rapid pace in the next coming years. All nursing schools today (private and public) must step up to the plate to meet the growing demands of the population.

    If CMK (and the rest of the schools out there) is able to deliver quality, skilled and licensed Nurses to help meet the health care demands of the future... then we all need to celebrate their successes as they are able to help lessen the number of sick people out there -- which is what Nursing is all about.

    Peace.
  4. Visit  BryanL profile page
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    Quote from magelan
    you could find the answer on all your questions if you read my posts.



    so i'll start. again:
    • i've finished cna in that school and i was very hapy with their program.
    • why should i commute to glendale heights or westmont from southside of chicago if they are not so good? pccti is almost in front of my nose, and northwestern is 30 minutes driving from my apartment (yes, i've visited both of these schools, and americare in schaumburg as well)
    • the school is accreditated for you information and since they have started with lpn this march there are no nclex pass rates because first group will exit the test next year
    • for all these financial aids and loans i'm ineligible
    • i was looking for program that has less number of prerequisites and clock hours from others. i have medical background, i have dental doctor degree from europe (the other story is that i need at least 4 years for endorsement) so i needed the shortest program in order to start to do something decent here in usa. so i don't need hours and hours of studying in order to become a lpn.
    • after 20 years in schools, i really don't need another 3 or 4 in community college to waist (would you do that if you were in my shoes bryan?!)
    • sincerely, only in cmk i had been well treated. advisors in other schools were either arrogant or unfriendly so i didn't want to have anything with them. the last thing i need is that someone bothers me every second day over the phone (like people from northwestern and pccti) and i don't want to someone brings me out of class physically because i didn't pay the same day they wanted.

    was it enough bryan? i really don't like your accusations and your tone...
    my opinion is only mine, so stop to bother me and other people who you dissagree with these stupidities
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    here you go again magellan, using words like "stupid"... that's very descriptive and deeply encouraging; certainly, no one will take no offense to that. and certainly, someone with a doctorate degree in dentistry like you could come up with better words.

    you made assumptions about me and posted something negative about the school i believe in (like you believe in cmk, 5x endorsements). and yet, you're telling me i'm accusing you... seriously?

    "bryan, you sound like advisor from americare, i haven't heard much good things about americare either... even when i was there, i didn't have such a good impression... (magellan, oct 25)"

    tell me... which of my comments you so keenly described as stupid? can you be more specific?

    you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

    you could find the answer on all your questions if you read my posts (magellan, oct 27)

    i've read your post...

    you're a dentist from europe who thinks working as a c.n.a as a waist of time. (magellan, sept 20). is it really a waist of time, doc? is that truly what you believe because that's what you wrote. don't you know that most lpns work in nursing homes.

    yes, i've read your post...

    you're a dentist from europe who thinks taking pharmacology, medical terminology, and anatomy in less than 3 months is a good idea (magellan, sept 15). is it really, doc? has it ever occurred to you that most pre-nursing students haven't had background in science? that recommending to take all 3 courses in less than 3 months is equivalent to an academic kamikaze.

    "the new thing is that now they have another more prerequirement - pharmacology course...it costs $700, and the class will be in october for 5 saturdays. terminology is also $700, and anatomy $1000. they accept transcripts from other schools but for people who don't have time to waste in community colleges, it's better to finish these 3 subjects in cmk 'cause you can finish all that in less than 3 months. (magellan, sept 15)"

    so, let's go back to my original question, why did you choose cmk?

    i think the real reason is because you do not qualify for financial aid (pell grant and federal student loans, a.ka. title iv) as you stated in your post "for all these financial aids and loans i'm ineligible (magellan, oct 27).

    you know, the u.s department of education will not give any financial aid to those who already possess doctorate degrees especially in dentistry such as yourself.

    unfortunately, because of the state of the u.s economy, there are many americans who need pell grant and federal students loans. they need financial support. many of them don't have $2,000 to shell out for a deposit. and, many of them don't have $1,300 for a monthly payment.

    to recommend a school that offers no title iv is an ill-advised (my opinion, i am entitled to it just as you are...).

    i will not argue about cmk's customer service, nor will i question it.
    i feel sorry that you had a bad customer service experience with other schools.
    i applaud your bravery for going back to school.
    and, i thank you kindly for sharing your views...

    just next time, i request that you use verifiable facts when stating your views.

    btw, cmk is not accredited. check this site for accredited schools. this you can verify.
    http://www.advanc-ed.org/oasis2/u/par/search

    cmk is approved to operate by isbe, and its lpn is approved by idfpr.
  5. Visit  Magelan profile page
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    @Bryan: I really don't want to argue with you in this way.

    Doc can only tell you that he had to go back to school because there were no options. I was not lucky like you to be born in the US. Otherwise, I wouldn't write here.

    Yes, for me in this moment is very frustrating working as a CNA because the job is extremly hard and underpayed. Since I need who knows how many years of studying in order to get dental license in the US and at least 150k for that I had to start with anything that can "pay bills" in the meantime. I visited all CC in Chgo and 4 private schools in last 6 months and had a very hard time to find something that can be ok for me. I'm 28 years old, and I was looking for the shortest thing. My option can help all these people who are searching something like "fast-track".

    Don't take advantage of my way of writing here. English is my second language, so don't try to "catch" me in every sentence. You and me are not equal so it very innapropriate you to judge my writing style. I really don't want to argue here with you.
  6. Visit  BryanL profile page
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    Quote from Magelan
    @Bryan: I really don't want to argue with you in this way.

    Doc can only tell you that he had to go back to school because there were no options. I was not lucky like you to be born in the US. Otherwise, I wouldn't write here.

    Yes, for me in this moment is very frustrating working as a CNA because the job is extremly hard and underpayed. Since I need who knows how many years of studying in order to get dental license in the US and at least 150k for that I had to start with anything that can "pay bills" in the meantime. I visited all CC in Chgo and 4 private schools in last 6 months and had a very hard time to find something that can be ok for me. I'm 28 years old, and I was looking for the shortest thing. My option can help all these people who are searching something like "fast-track".

    Don't take advantage of my way of writing here. English is my second language, so don't try to "catch" me in every sentence. You and me are not equal so it very innapropriate you to judge my writing style. I really don't want to argue here with you.
    Magelan,

    Let me repeat what I said.

    I admire your courage for going back to school and appreciate for sharing your views.

    ARGUMENTS

    My comments are not intended to attack anyone. And certainly, ain't no personal attack on you. I have nothing against you; I don't know you.

    The way I see it is that we have engaged in a healthy discourse - exchanging of different world views, as we see the world through different eyes.

    You are expressing yours ideas, as I am expressing mine.

    This great country is built on different ideas with opposing views.


    BEING EQUAL

    Yes, we are equal. We both have the capacity to think. So next time, think before you write.

    And, don't use "English As A Second Language" excuse. I don't buy it.

    You have an advanced degree (a doctorate nonetheless) that many non-native speakers of English do not.


    ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE


    And by the way, English is also my second language; I wasn't born here either.

    I was born poor and raised poor in a third world country. Unlike you, however, I did not have the privilege to obtain an advanced degree because my parents did not have the means to send me to school.

    When I came into this great country, I had to learn English from scratch at various community colleges while working full-time. I had to enroll in ESL classes for a span of four years to gain proficiency of the English language, so I could express my ideas decently.

    I have a collection of grammar books. They are one of my precious possessions. I read them daily. I still memorize my punctuation usage. I continue to learn about independent and dependent clauses. I am still learning about nouns, verbs, adverbs, and adjectives. I am constantly trying to improve my understanding of idioms, prepositional phrases and two-word verbs.

    However, I don't use "English As A Second Language" excuse because I don't perceive my situation as a disadvantage.

    The way I see it, I speak and write two distinct languages. And, I am darn proud of it.

    ****************************************

    Let me say it again. I wish you success in your nursing career.
  7. Visit  2ndshot profile page
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    Can you guys call each other on the phone or exchange emails? I would like to keep on the subject.
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  9. Visit  Magelan profile page
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    Quote from 2ndshot
    Can you guys call each other on the phone or exchange emails? I would like to keep on the subject.


    I realy should meet this guy :-) He isn't like others, not at all
  10. Visit  loveblossom profile page
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    Quote from Magelan


    I realy should meet this guy :-) He isn't like others, not at all
    ()


    Good luck with your Career Magelan and Thanks for all the info about this school.I just sent a friend of mines there because she needs a weekend program....
  11. Visit  SMOKEY2112 profile page
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    Quote from Chris NS
    well i am gettting a BA degree and going into cc to do these pre recs casue i dont have the money to pay for these pre recs at the campus 2400 bucks at once is alot (somthing i cant afford now) i am going to work as a CNA to make my money and i am not going to go to JC but i am going to get a BA in about 1 year and 4 months which i think is pretty fast
    What school is this that you are getting your BA in a year and 4 months?
  12. Visit  Chris NS profile page
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    hey this is not about the LPN program, but it is about CMK. I graduated from a CNA class at harper college and want to be a PCT should I get the EKG certi and the phelbotmy certication at a separate time or pay for a PCT traning at CMK
  13. Visit  Magelan profile page
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    You don't have to pay 2.5k for PCT program. You need to take separately ECG and Phlebotomy course, to pass National Exams and afterwards, with all 3 certificates (CNA, ECG Tech & Phlebotomy Tech) you are eligible to seat for National PCT Exam (and that would be fourth certificate).

    Technically, you can take CNA, ECG and Phlebotomy at three different schools, and to apply for PCT Exam at fourth

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