Hesi Exit Test - page 36
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Hello fellow educators....I am dealing with a dilema which I have no control over as I am a staff member, not administration, but it is just eating away at my concious. My community college uses the HESI exit exam for the ADN... Read More
- 0Feb 8, '11 by echoinrainWell I'm going on to taking the Hesi 4 times now and I still am not passing the darn thing. I am getting very frustrated. I am going on to take the verson 5 this up coming tuesday, so if anyone has any pointers for me it would be much appreciated. Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
- 0Feb 9, '11 by adygrl16Quote from ag11wow..I take the Hesi in April and now im even more petrified!! We have a predictor exam a week beforehand..if we pass that with an 80, we are excused from taking the Hesi..but if we do not pass the predictor exam, we definately have to pass the Hesi.
- 0Feb 10, '11 by jmqphdI understand your point. Here is the deal, however...
IF the HESI is a good predictor of NCLEX performance, then I think we can ethically require the students to pass the HESI before progressing.
The bottom line is:
1) We are not doing the student's any favors letting them work toward a diploma and then they find they cannot turn that diploma into a license to practice nursing.
2) Weak graduates are a hazard for the school. The board keeps an eye on the school's pass rates. If the school determines that those students who pass the HESI with an 850 or better have a better than average likelihood of passing the HESI, then it is their best interest and (as I said above) in the student's to make them take the material over until they are successful on the HESI.
The key to the issue you raise... is the HESI predictive.
Answer that question and you have your answer. (IMO)
I understand your concern. No matter what the reason, it is tough to fail a student. And it gets more tragic as the student gets further along.
- 0Mar 4, '11 by ORTech2RNPassed the dreaded HESI today on the first try (962). Honestly, by question 25, I was ready to throw in the towel. The test is pretty dang tough. However, a few things that helped me (looking back). Get the math right! There's about five or six math questions on the test. Not difficult at all, just watch the rounding. Process of elimination! Once I settled down, I was able to look at the stem of the question and match it up with the answers. Nearly all the answers could be whittled down to two. From there it was either luck or just knowing the content. Some people swear by the Hurst review, or Kaplan, or the many HESI/NCLEX books. Personally, it was a mix of the Hurst and doing about 50 questions a day on my Mosby's Med Surg app that I downloaded on my IPhone.
Another thing-get plenty of rest the night before and eat a high protein meal for breakfast or lunch. The test, at 160 questions, is a butt kicker. I can't imagine going in and sitting down at the computer being fatigued or hungry. Think about it-the length of the exam is equivalent to three nursing exams. So, that said, being rested and nourished is really part of the battle.
- 1Mar 8, '11 by kevinadurrTechnically, if get down into the nitty gritty of your academic policy at your college, it may not be within policy to withhold students from graduation or any other "hold" due to a "third party" exam. As college administrators, you are bound to the policies set forth by the institution. Also, you are being paid to develop curriculum that meets the standards of an accrediting body. Thus, students being held beck due to failure on the HESI exam should be encouraged to challenge through appropriate college channels. If they have passed the core curriculums standards "within the context set forth by the college requirements" a third party exam (which requires money) should not impede graduating requirements.
The NCLEX pass rate is a big deal and is such a poor indicator of preparing students. Colleges should rather focus on meeting with local hiring facilities to evaluate how new grads are entering the workforces and seek suggestions from improvements.
My undergraduate program utilized ATI Testing materials for each quarter. The dilemma was that we were being tested on material that was never covered in assigned textbooks or classroom discussion. Yet, the ATI exam each quarter was worth 20% of a student's grade. Faculty at the school kept forcing ATI and the $1000 per student package to use as a measuring tool for each course. After more than 5 years, students continued "fail" the exams and yet no change has been made to discontinue the ATI requirement. On the other hand, I have sat in meetings with the sales rep and he always seems to present and support his product gaining the approval of enough faculty, temporarily, to keep trying the product.
In my opinion, if any program or new trend requires a sales rep or customer purchasing for each use, then the "evidence-based" support required for validity is skewed for profit making revenue purposes.
- 0Mar 8, '11 by VickyRN Senior ModeratorNorth Carolina Board of Nursing position statement (1/2011) on "External Examinations:"
NCBON does not support the use of any external examination that is used as a gatekeeper for progression or graduation. Schools can include performance on an external exam as part of a final course grade; however, the score should not count as an all-or-none scale for meeting or failing to meet a specific predetermined criterion. If an external exam is utilized in grading, the external exam should count no more than 10% of the grade and the assignment of points is on a sliding scale based on performance on the examination.