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- Nov 12, '09 by koi310Quote from lisa from mauian old, wooden, termite-ridden bungalow in manoa is going for $1.2 million. a newly constructed, 2-story house (on a shared lot) without a lawn in makiki were going for $700k-1 million.koi, thank you for the post!
for those of you not good at math... 640 sq feet... put another way... that's 20 feet x 32 feet.
depending on your credit and down payment, if you bought it for $ 260,000 your mortgage payment could be $1500 to $2200 per month. i'm guessing it's a condo. let's not forget an association fee. that could be $200 - $500 per month, on top of your mortgage.
if you have the money to vacation here once a year, and to see hawai'i as paradise, relaxing, calm, soothing...
if hawai'i could be an escape for you... why on earth would you want to live here?
by the way, as people are reading these posts, if you like what someone wrote (me or anyone else), please click kudos and thank that person. mahalo!
- Nov 12, '09 by WindwardOahuRNCheck out neighborhoods and properties for sale here:
- Dec 8, '09 by koi310Quote from lisa from mauihave you considered agency work? don't know what the job situation is like on maui, but it wouldn't hurt to try it.dh = dear husband pto = paid time off fob = fresh off the boat
heco = hawai'i electric company, your electric bill hvcb = ??? military pcs = ???
okie wrote: "after reading some posts over there (at other websites) for the past hour, i can tell that aloha is alive and well."
okie, you and i have very different outlooks. i've lived here for 11 months. for me, allnurses.com (an) posts have been filled with aloha! they tell it like it is. i've sent private messages to some an posters, and i've talked on the phone to some an posters. they help me to realize that i'm not a failure. hawai'i is in the absolute toughest economy it's had in 20 years. they help me to realize that it's not about me being screwed up, it's not about what i'm doing wrong. hard times, closed doors, rejection... it's happening everywhere, to everyone.
koi wrote: "those who do survive here posses the following characteristics... tremendous motivation to make a life here--as if the captain burned the ships after making landfall."
okie, there is a big difference between moving... mainland to mainland vs mainland to islands. my husband and i spent years furnishing our house. if we moved to another mainland state, we could have loaded up a huge uhaul van & driven it across the country. my husband is used to driving huge tractor-trailers, so he would have been comfortable driving it.
moving to hawai'i is different. we looked at shipping prices, and realized it would have cost us just as much $$ to ship furniture as it would cost to buy new stuff here. when we moved here, he gave a closet full of important stuff to a friend of his, for storage. we loaded up one pallet of stuff, 4 ft x 4 ft x 6 ft tall, and shipped it to maui, for about $1100. we brought four suitcases of stuff. we had a 4 bedroom house, and we sold everything else we had. everything we had built up for five years was torn apart in three months. that was really really hard.
six months after we got here, we were walking through a furniture store. i walked up to one particular table, i kept quiet, but tears started streaming down my face. my husband asked me what was wrong. i whispered to him, "we had that table back home." i thought of all the conversations i had with my girlfriends, sitting at that table. and then i thought of all the other things in our house, and all the memories those things were connected to. the tears wouldn't stop.
as women, we get emotionally attached to our homes, much the same way men get emotionally attached to the classic car or watch or tool set their dad gave them. it's not just about the financial cost of things. it's about the psychological/ emotional cost as well. i do think it would be easier if we had our old furniture here. our condo would have felt less foreign, would have felt more like home.
going back to the idea of aloha... when i read, "the captain burned the ships," i felt aloha. koi may not have been trying to give me empathy, but he (she?) did. koi knows where i am coming from. the ship had burned. i had never put it into those words, but koi hit the nail on the head. i have no other choice. i have to make it here. reading about resilience, independence, cultural tolerance, emotional and cognitive flexibility helps to remind me that moving here brings with it a huge learning curve. it takes it's toll on a person. in the last 11 months, i've heard many locals talk about the "first year initiation." it's kind of like what winward wrote. it's about paying your dues. like what koi wrote. it's about survival.
okie, it may not seem like aloha to you. it's definitely aloha to me.
all in all, the 20-30 other island nurses who post here have helped me realize that it may be year 2015 before the economy turns around and i can get a job as a new grad. they have been very clear with that. i took all that information and made a decision. i have no idea why my husband was given his job here. i don't know why the universe (spirit, higher power, alpha-omega, creator, the source) dropped a job in his lap, and moved us here. but, while i'm here, i'm going to make the best of it, and get my bachelor's if science in nursing (bsn) done. if the economy still hasn't turned around by then, i'll go for my masters.
the people here have given me information, given me clarity, given me real answers, honest answers.
in my opinion, from my perspective, that's not just kokua. that's aloha.
- Dec 8, '09 by liberty_bellWow! Lisa from Maui you seen so unhappy there. I really hope you are able to find good work soon and like it.
- Dec 9, '09 by Lisa From MauiKoi:
Thanks for trying to help. I have an LPN license here. Can't work registry as an LPN. They want one year of experience. All doors are closed.
I called one registry and asked if I can work as a CNA. They want one year of work experience as a CNA. After that, to tell the truth, I just gave up trying. I got sick of closed doors, with no help - whatsoever. No one saying, "This is what you need to do to succeed on this island." Honestly... I gave up trying.
Last month, I called nurse finders. Explained my situation. She said that she would be happy to hire me as a CNA. But, she's got lots of CNAs who are looking for work, and she can't find work for the ones she's got. (There's another thread on this forum about Craiglist and registries.) As Windward has said many times, there's just no work.
I thank you, again, for trying to help.
- Dec 9, '09 by Lisa From Mauiliberty bell wrote: wow! lisa from maui you seen so unhappy there. i really hope you are able to find good work soon and like it.
thanks! me too!
on the bright side... i'm almost done with my first year initiation. the locals say that if you can survive on this rock for a year, and you're still living here, you haven't left, it gets better. they can't explain why; that's just the way it works.
almost every day i ask spirit, "why am i here? i was planted back home. my roots ran deep. i was strong, i was grounded, i was growing, i was blossoming. why did spirit tear me out of the ground and transplant me here?"
the answer i get back is: "because one, your husband loves his job. so two, your job, this year, is to take care of your husband. and three, my greater plan is none of your business. all doors are closed because i that's my plan. when i want you to move, i'll open a door."
i am trying to create happiness for myself. believe it or not, allnurses.com helps. i don't feel like a failure because i realize that it's not just me. it's not personal. it's not like every other nurse has a job and i'm the only one who doesn't. everyone is hurting. and then i get warm-fuzzy posts from people like you, i get compassion, empathy, warm wishes. it helps me to create happiness for myself.
mahalo for your compassion. lisa ;-)
- Dec 11, '09 by liberty_bellI can relate...sort of. We are military and move every 2-3 years. By the time we are grounded it's up up and away again. It's hard but really haev no choice. Thank god the hubs only has 6 years left in until retirement. We are thinking of Ohau next time for a move sinec we will never be able to just move to Hawaii after he's out.
- Dec 30, '09 by uscgtruckerQuote from Lisa From MauiAloha Lisa,Last month, I called nurse finders. Explained my situation. She said that she would be happy to hire me as a CNA. But, she's got lots of CNAs who are looking for work, and she can't find work for the ones she's got.
Me and my fam were contemplating a move back to HI and the big island in particular but your post has me concerned. I'm a recent cna graduate and will have a 1 year experience in the field before we potentially move in july. is it really that difficult for cna's to find work on the islands or is that just specific to the island your on?
- Dec 30, '09 by Lisa From MauiShort answer... Difficult? no. Near impossible... yes.
Read the last 18 months of posts. Read about EXPERIENCED nurses trying to find jobs, today vs. 4 years ago. Read about new grads getting jobs today, vs. 4 years ago when the economy was great. Read ALL posts by WindwardOahuRN. Read about why employers don't want to hire people new to the islands. Read the thread about the Craigslist ad.
No reason to re-type what other people already wrote. You will find... the answers are already on this website. Read. Read. Read. Believe! --Lisa ;-)Last edit by Lisa From Maui on Dec 30, '09
- Dec 30, '09 by uscgtruckerLisa
looks like I'll be taking my puter to bed with me for some late night reading lol, mahol nui loa for your help