Abusive and Cruel Clinical Instructors: Why??

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Forgive me, but I've noticed on these boards when a student is afraid of a overly harsh clinical instructor, there seems to be a running theme: angry clinical instructors that embarrass students, intimidate them, and make them afraid of them are the clinical instructors you want, because they make you work hard?

Huh?

This is grossly incorrect, in my humble opinion. I had a clinical instructor who picked on only me in a class of eight people. She would actually chart for other students, was kind to them. When it came to me, she embarrassed me in front of patients, their families, and other staff. She talked down to me, she consistently made me feel that I was not going to be a good nurse.

Absolutely EVERYTHING I did was wrong, and nothing I did was right. Even when there were no mistakes on my charting, she made it a point NOT to tell me how well I was doing, yet did it with other students.

It had a horrible effect on me: I lost 25 pounds, I was stressed out beyond belief. I was not sleeping, and it took a toll on other classes I was taking. I am an A student, and I began to get grades that were below that. It was then that I took control of my life.

I realized that when there is a person, instructor, boss, manager, who you can NEVER, EVER PLEASE, despite how hard you work, and how correct your work may be, there may be a personality disorder there, and you may need to simply talk to other faculty who may be able to talk to the instructor. You may just need to realize that IT'S NOT YOU, IT'S THEM. And that's ok. It's ok to realize that you are doing your best, and there are people who you cannot please. But lateral violence, nurses being mean and cruel to each other, and younger nurses accepting this attitude and even praising it is baffling to me.

This harshness and uncaring attitude that some clinical instructors show to students is what fuels lateral violence in the nursing profession, and it makes being a nurse more about personality conflicts than taking care of patients. In nursing school, I have seen more times than I care to remember other nurses who are mean and cruel to new nurses, or me as a nursing student. I don't cower in a corner like many nursing students, I stand up to nurses like that, and demand to be treated with respect.

I can understand that nursing students may be afraid to cross these clinical instructors, but what kind of nurse will you be, and how can you advocate for patients, if you cannot advocate for yourself? You need courage to be a nurse, and it seems that the message on many boards is: "do what you can with mean clinical instructors, be silent, accept the abuse, and move on". This just seems strange to me since as nurses, we need to be strong for our patients.

There is a nursing shortage going on, and we don't need students dropping out of programs because they have clinical instructors stuck in the past who think it's acceptable to embarrass and intimidate students and create a hostile class environment. It's unnecessary, and we as nurses need to acknowledge it.

I think it's high time that abusive instructors and nurses who practice lateral violence to other nurses and CNA's realize just how they are making this nursing shortage worse, by discouraging bright and talented nurses who don't need the cruelty. For those of you who are reading this who practice this behavior and you know who you are: Stop It.

And we wonder why so many nurses leave the profession.

There is not and should never be any excuse for an instructor to behave badly. What makes me crazy is that they do not always know when they are behaving badly. Why? If they really thought it was bad behavior they probably wouldn't do it. The alternative is that they experienced it and therefore justify that others should when coming up in the ranks.

Personally I see it as bullying. Those who are not the subject of the bullying are so bloody grateful to be left alone they just carry on -- lest the bully set their sights on them. Those who are the subject of the bullying get no lateral support so it makes it nearly impossible to get support from someone senior enough to make a difference. Basically they are stuffed.

By the way no one's behavior is beyond reproach all of the time.

Also, a big deal is the shortage of nursing instructors. The choice in some places just is not great.

The real question is how do you point out bad behavior and not put your future career at risk by attaching your name to a complaint? This is the million dollar question.

Remember the experience and vow to not to do this stuff yourself or co-sign someone else's bad behavior.

I agree that we need to support our classmates who are unfairly targeted by an instructor or floor nurse!! At least help the student validate that the offending behavior is off the charts. You never know when the tables will turn and you'll need support yourself.

Sallber.

I just posted today..your post hits home for me.

Thanks

Wish I talked to you before I opened my mouth and left. IN any case, beautifully put...we need more people like you....

xo

Hey everyone! I can certainly empathize with having a horrible clinical instructer. Right now I am in clinical hell with the devil for an instructer:devil:!!! Shes passive-agressive, condescending, she talks to me like Im stupid, she is NEVER clear on what she expects, and the make you feel like an idiot when you don't give her what she wants (and you don't ever really know what that is until after the fact) We are totally unfamilar with the paperwork on the unit, and to top it all off she hovers! I trully think I might hate this woman. She is ruining my semester. I cryed yesterday and today, she is completely unconcerned and ignors me. I have never even disliked a clinical instructor before.

Had this exact problem once, and after 6 months of the lvn program, quit because I just could not take it anymore. The instructor I had back than was just out to get me. I now am re enrolled into another program and in the beginning of it again, so far so good. But, sometimes

if we are to aggressive towards an instructor they actually can kick you out of the program, so becareful..

Hey Muse!

Thanks so much. I just had to say something because I went through hell last year with clinical instructors who bullied me, screamed and yelled at me in front of fellow students and nurses, and belittled my ideas. The thing is, I did not seek support from fellow students, because I knew that unless they had walked in my shoes, they would not be able to see what was happenning. Even if they did see it, they turned a blind eye because of fear.

It is fear, I believe, that leads fellow nurisng students and nurses to do nothing. They figure, better you than me. This is wrong.

To LVN Trave.s, the problem is just what you stated. Be careful, be afraid, so say nothing and do nothing. That is the wrong attitude in my opinion. We are going to be nurses, we are going to have to get the cajones to talk to doctors, get up before a judge and explain ourselves and our practices, and deal with difficult situations every day. We need to get courage, and we need to get it fast, if we are to be good nurses.

Sometimes, we need to act IN SPITE of fear. We acknowledge the fear that is present, and use it as energy, harness it to stand up for ourselves.

We are going to be advocates, we are going to be saving lives while others cower in the corner. I don't want to be the kind of nurse that is too scared to speak up for myself, or my patients.

If I were a patient, I would want someone with courage taking care of me. And that means saying things that may make you uncomfortable, and may make others uncomfortable. Maybe some folks need to be uncomfortable, maybe then we may be heard and taken seriously as nurses.

Sallber

Thanks you are a great advocate.. I used your line the other day.. How can I be a patient advocate if Im not a personal one. In any case, I opened my mouth, nothing was done..I left. Took a leave of absence till AUgust (Fall) but Im so questioning my intentions at thispoint. Maybe Im jaded now, maybe after seeing the floor I know I couldnt move forward seeing this despair. WHo knows, all I know is Im reading post after post and nurses just dont seem enthused by their jobs (no offense to anyone) However burn out and politics seem to take a precious toll on the psyche of nurses. Who knows, I had such a drive to do this. Im 39 and felt in my heart this is my calling (until I saw it all first hand) Not only the instructors but whew the nurses... not nice to one another.....

Right but one thing you have to remember is that you did not choose this profession because it's easy, and you didn't choose it because of instructors or rude people. Try to be strong and hang in there, it will all be worth it in the end.

I seriously thought about quitting last year when all that crap was happenning to me, losing weight, mean instructors, not sleeping. But I kept hanging on, and you can too.

Hey everyone! I can certainly empathize with having a horrible clinical instructer. Right now I am in clinical hell with the devil for an instructer:devil:!!! Shes passive-agressive, condescending, she talks to me like Im stupid, she is NEVER clear on what she expects, and the make you feel like an idiot when you don't give her what she wants (and you don't ever really know what that is until after the fact) We are totally unfamilar with the paperwork on the unit, and to top it all off she hovers! I trully think I might hate this woman. She is ruining my semester. I cryed yesterday and today, she is completely unconcerned and ignors me. I have never even disliked a clinical instructor before.

Hmmm...this describes two clinical instructors I've had to a "T."

Until nursing school, I was never aware of just how totally worthless a person could be at "teaching" (I use that term loosely). I guess I know now. lol.

Specializes in Geriatrics.

Well said! I strongly agree with you! But I would like to think of it as a test or hurdle. The nursing profession is filled with all types of people which include rude people. If you can tolerate your instructor, you can tolerate whatever comes at your in the future.

:sniff:

I am in Nursing school right now and my clinical teacher was horrible... I withdrew from my class but I am still very angry with her attitude and was wondering what I can do about it. I thought about writing an anonymous letter when I graduate. I am afraid however, that I will get her as a clinical instructor again and am not sure how to handle the situation. What should I do any advice from anyone who has experienced this?

Hi there. First off I am so sorry this happened to you..it seems a trend which is quite sickening and very discouraging for the naive student. The same thing happened to me: as I wrote a letter to the dean, the director and assistant director only to be told to take a leave of absence and they were sorry. They would talk to the professor but nothing would be done... Sorry to say, it seems as though, my experiences (short lived) have 100% changed my views of nursing and I do understand in part the reasons for the shortage. If you take a peak on these threads, you will read several professors and head nurses who are less than compassionate to students.. What happened to supporting one another and teaching..that is how people learn..not by being berated and back stabbed. Good luck to you. Im sorry I could not offer better advice..just follow your heart. If this is your passion do not let anyone get in the way of it..soon the old farts will have retired and hopefully a new wave of kindess will flood the field.. :-)

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