Any cath lab RNs required to take the RCIS? - page 2
I am interested in finding out if there are other labs that are making their nursing staff to take the RCIS?... Read More
- 0Jun 30, '11 by zdiddy44PS...no matter what your background is, at this point the RCIS is a one part exam....PERIOD! The only people who have the 2 part exam are candidates who applied before 2011; these, most likely, are people who have attemted the exam before and were unsuccessful. The 2 part exam was a cardiac science exam and the RCIS itself. Now it is all rolled into 1.
- 0Jun 30, '11 by zdiddy44Quote from inthelabI think that if you are non nursing it is a 2 part test, but nursing it is one part. The lab I work in is trying to strong arm everyone into taking it. I would rather take the CCRN or some certification that is specific to nursing. This allows Radtechs,CVTs,Resp therapist, and I think anyone who is grandfathered into the cath lab if you do not have an allied health degree to be RCIS certified. I was hoping to see the benefit in taking this test... I work in a lab where there are a good mixture of talents. Everyone can do everyone else's job, so we all rotate through the roles, and yes non nursing personel give drugs...under the physcian's license( I don't think that all the docs are aware of that fact) anyway, so someone that does not have an allied health degree but has an RCIS is considered just as good as the nurse standing next to me. Interesting huh?
RRT's, RT(R), and most CVT's have an allied health degree...Radiology and respiratory therapy are at the associates level as well as cardiovascular technician.
Also, nurses give medicine under the physicians license. No nurse has the ability to prescribe or give medicine unless under the direct order of a physician. Yes, doctors are aware of this fact.
And an RCIS person and a nurse are two different thing. RCIS is specialized in cardiovascular; an RN has no speciality; you can't compare them. In the realm of cardiology...the RN is no where close to knowledge base or skill set of the average RCIS professional.
- 0Jul 22, '12 by harley007I was educated as a RN 38 years ago and I completed an AS/Diploma program. I didn't take the NCLEX as a nurse educated that long ago took a 5 part - 2 day long state board of examination to qualify as a Registered Nurse. My clinical rotations involved hundreds of clinical hours as the AS/Diploma was a 3 year program with only one week off each summer. Even on the days we attended our college classes the local university we were required to return to the hospital for afternoons of clinical instruction or additional hours of clinical experience. Our endless clinical hours always included an instructor breathing down your back every second. By our last portion of our third year we weekly administered medications for an entire "floor" of 44 patients and were constantly verbally questioned on each medication given. We were required to spend 3 months on site at a large psychiatric hospital and a month's rotation at a rehabilitation facility. Before I completed my RN program I had already graduated and worked as an LPN. Once again the LPN program was a non-stop clinical and classroom experience including working evenings and nights while attending regular classes - Yes, back then we were actually used as hospital staff. So let me see, that would make me an RN with 40 years experience as a nurse including working in the ER, ICU and the last 10 years in the Cath. Lab which has been the specialty closest to my "heart". Our interventional lab runs four rooms and averages about 25+ patients a day. With a very, very rare exception, our STEMI times meet the national standards 100% of the time. We are always involved in numerous studies, run a separate large EP Dept. and are always the first lab in a multi-state area to use the newest stent, balloon etc. THREE of my five children are on active military duty and all of them are advanced trained corpsman. I am quite aware of their intense training and the responsibility these three have at sea or on the battle field. But, my education's advantage is it's more broad based and all specialty inclusive. Although I love working with any passionate Cath. Lab team member from RCIS, RT, Paramedic, etc., etc. I still feel that only a RN should be administering medications. It's not only the knowledge of the medications but the total patient care including issues that involve other specialties. I know you as much as I are still amazed at the unusual conditions that our patients surprise us with that affect their care aside from their CVD. That is where I feel my broader based education has an advantage. I graduated high school at 16 & even with 40 years of being a nurse I still jog like a maniac. So I'll can certainly match you or your colleagues and run you down in or out of the lab. Alright my dear enough said. Please keep your wonderful passion for the Cath. Lab but remember to play nice & no generalizations!
- 0Jul 23, '12 by Flyboy17At our current state our lab is not requiring an RCIS certification for the RN's that scrub. However it is recommended for the clinical ladder that is implemented with us. Further education is always a good thing and I can tell you as a CCL nurse and a flight nurse the RCIS training was great and well worth the time and money.
- 0Nov 10, '13 by harley007I think it might depend on your lab and what your MD's prefer. We frequently do FFR/IVUS in our lab and all four labs have installed bedside equipment. The Pyxis has pre-mixed Adenosine infusion bags ready to go - what a time saver! Less than 10% of the patients are below or above the weight limit for the pre-mixed. If so, we're back to mixing that time consuming drip, along with a thrombolytic agent and everything prepping everything else that's needed for an FFR.Last edit by harley007 on Nov 10, '13 : Reason: spelling