WHY do we need more nurses

I don't think we need a increase of nursing school enrollments. We are fine with however many nurses we have now. One of the posts already says the old nurses eat the young nurses or eat each other. (https://allnurses.com/forums/f8/do-nurses-eat-their-young-302909.html)

If all the nursing school suddenly open the door and let more people in, there will be a overflowed. Think about all those software programmers back in the days, lawyers, MBAs. We used to think lawyers and MBAs can make a pretty good living but now there are too many out on the streets.

I'm sure you guys don't want to see the same thing happen in nursing, don't you? DO NOT increase enrollments of nursing schools please. Otherwise, we will all suffer. Graduate 10,000 new nurses each year across the nation would be enough.

If you are in nursing education, tell the dean DO NOT increase the enrollments therwise, we will all be screwed.

I couldn't agree more. Improve pay, benefits, and staffing, and don't discriminate agaist older nurses trying to reenter the work field. There are 500,000 nurses who have left the profession. More than enough to fix the "nursing shortage". This is a figment of the imagination of hospital administrators.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

According to report publshed by Dr. Peter Buerhaus and coleeagues in march 200s the demenad for rns is expected to grow by 2%to 3% each year this is just the rn populus this does not include lpns cenas doctor by the way the nurseing shortage could reach as high as 500,000 by 2025 "report the future of the nursing workfore in the united states,datatrends and implications excpted aper jd.

I would have to disagree. Many men would still not do nursing. It's not a clean job like computers where u get to sit at a desk all day. So I disagree with you. There's enough drawbacks to nursing to keep people out, (ie cleaning ass). Plus there's no prestige in nursing either. It's a humbling job. Trust me, you have no worries.

I'm in a small rural hospital. I've seen plenty of nurses that no one in their right mind would hire, but they get hired because there's no other "body" to fill the slot. I mean, there are folks that when I see I'm following them, I think, "oh, crap, I'm going to spend all night straightening out their mess." I've also seen our NM say flat out that she'd get rid of some people if she could, but there's nobody to replace them. I'm not for the "dumbing down" of nursing, but I know how hard I had to fight to get a seat, and half the people in the program should never have been admitted -- "eww, you mean you have to deal with blood and poo?" Ummm, yes, you are dealing with human beings, not martians. I like what one school did, making it mandatory that RN students were either CNAs or LPNs first and had 6 months working in the field prior to admission. I think it would cut down on the people who quit in the first year, because they know what they're signing up for.

We have been working horribly short staffed for a long time and there aren't enough Nursing school teachers to train nearly enough new nurses to fill the shortages when the current workforce(where the average age is 50) retires. Yes,management could definitely treat the currently working nurse much better and more would come back including me but there is definitely a shortage.

I have worked when there wasn't a shortage and the conditions were SO MUCH BETTER all around.

Don't worry there will always be plenty of jobs for nurses.

I would have to disagree. Many men would still not do nursing. It's not a clean job like computers where u get to sit at a desk all day. So I disagree with you. There's enough drawbacks to nursing to keep people out, (ie cleaning ass). Plus there's no prestige in nursing either. It's a humbling job. Trust me, you have no worries.

I totally agree with you.I know computer scientists and other people who would never go into nursing because they have a weak stomach.As a matter fact barely anyone I know would go into nursing.

I don't think we need a increase of nursing school enrollments. We are fine with however many nurses we have now. One of the posts already says the old nurses eat the young nurses or eat each other. (https://allnurses.com/forums/f8/do-nurses-eat-their-young-302909.html)

If all the nursing school suddenly open the door and let more people in, there will be a overflowed. Think about all those software programmers back in the days, lawyers, MBAs. We used to think lawyers and MBAs can make a pretty good living but now there are too many out on the streets.

I'm sure you guys don't want to see the same thing happen in nursing, don't you? DO NOT increase enrollments of nursing schools please. Otherwise, we will all suffer. Graduate 10,000 new nurses each year across the nation would be enough.

If you are in nursing education, tell the dean DO NOT increase the enrollments therwise, we will all be screwed.

So just because you guys are "fine", I should have not bothered going to nursing school to achieve my childhood dream? Sorry, I don't think so. As a new nurse in her 20s, I have well over 40 years to give to this field. Experienced nurses will need to retire someday...you need someone to take their place. There's no reason I should have gone to college and majored in something else that I wasn't interested in.

Working in a major city hospital as a nursing tech, I saw the shortage EVERY DAY. Yes, there is a nursing glut in my area...but it's a glut because hospitals don't want to/can't afford to pay to take on new grads--not because the need isn't there.

I couldn't agree more. Improve pay, benefits, and staffing, and don't discriminate agaist older nurses trying to reenter the work field. There are 500,000 nurses who have left the profession. More than enough to fix the "nursing shortage". This is a figment of the imagination of hospital administrators.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

exactly.

focus on retaining nurses and all will be well.

it never ceases to amaze me at the common sense lacking in these bozos.

leslie

I would have to disagree. Many men would still not do nursing. It's not a clean job like computers where u get to sit at a desk all day. So I disagree with you. There's enough drawbacks to nursing to keep people out, (ie cleaning ass). Plus there's no prestige in nursing either. It's a humbling job. Trust me, you have no worries.

it's a blue collar job

Let's face it...being a manager at McDonalds has more prestige, and in many circumstances is thought of as a "position" with more potential than that of a nurse!

When you consider all of the schooling involved, technical abilities, time management, customer service, negotiating skills and the million other things involved with being an active nurse....how is it we are not appreciated?

WE DO NEED NURSES. Nurses from all age groups, walks of life and varied experiences. We need to change the work environment and support each other and institute new ways to operate in the hospital environment. WE NEED TO BECOME ADMINISTRATION, SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE RULES!

Until we infiltrate the ranks, join forces and support our peers, it will never happen.

JMO

Maisy

exactly.

focus on retaining nurses and all will be well.

it never ceases to amaze me at the common sense lacking in these bozos.

leslie

Hospitals would retain more nurses if they paid us at the level we should be paid and if they improved working conditions. I think because nursing is such a female dominated profession we don't get the pay and benefits that we deserve. It ticks me off that these hospital CEOs sit up in their pretty little office and make hundreds of thousands of dollars while we make probably an eighth of what they make. And then they have the nerve to tell us how we need to meet the budget on our unit and give us less supplies so they can save money. Or they give us one raise a year based on an evaluation that doesn't even evaluate your bedside skills...it evaluates your attendance, Press gainey scores, unit budgets...then if you miss a day or two because you are sick, there goes half of your raise.

I'm not going to give up my childhood dream either. I think that was an awful thing to say. I've only been on my rotation for 8 weekd and let me tell y9u I have yet to meet a good nurse. I agree with pay raises and better benefits. My friend works in a hospital here where a nurse can miss up to three day, with no calling in, no questions asked. What other job could you be sooo much more irresponsible in???? I have never seen anything like it.