When Does Life Begin? The Scientific Definition of an Abortifacient ...

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Yes, I watched the video. And some people used to believe in spontaneous generation until Lewis Pasture's experiments. The point is that when some are stating the four in question are not abortifacts are missing the facts our own government including the FDA labels them as such.

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That would be "Louis" Pasteur.

Unless it's your opinion that he spelled it wrong.

People believed all sorts of things -- and still do-- until science proved them wrong, or a religious leader told them to change their tune (viz. to wit., the RC church re "quickening").

The Supreme Court are not scientists, and they aren't saying these things are one thing or the other, either, and their written opinion should not be understood or promulgated as science. They just say that HL owners believe some birth control methods to be something they don't like the idea of. And we get back to the beginning... that unscientific belief is not necessarily held by others. Oh, sure, they're entitled to believe it if they want to. But just because 5 old Catholic men agreed with them does not make it science any more than the Pope commanding Galileo to recant made the sun and stars go around the earth.

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That is why they relied on information from the government itself and the FDA to determine that the four (4) contraceptives were abortifacts.

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"Preventing implantation" does not equal "producing abortion," because abortion is defined medically as the termination of a pregnancy, which is itself defined as what ensues after the implantation of any product of conception. All the rest is opinion.

I will let you have the last word, because there's no stopping anyone who won't let other people have their own opinions. As the sign up in my office constantly reminds me, "Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig."

No, I am not calling anybody a pig. It's a metaphor, not a simile, OK?

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Tell that to the FDA and the government then; it's their labeling system.

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I think you're missing the point. Nobody is arguing that what the FDA has said is untrue. Those forms of birth control may prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. That's a fact. What isn't a fact is your opinion (I assume, anyway) that fertilization is the beginning of "life" and thus those drugs are abortifacient. The scientific definition of pregnancy is from implantation on, thus, scientifically, the drugs discussed in your video are not abortifacient. (And yes, I'm a liberal who isn't afraid of facts [most of us aren't] and watched your video, which didn't seem to contain many facts anyway.)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH9yGVmN0hs destroys the left's arguments about the four (4) contraceptives in question as not being abortion related.

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BAHAHA nothing Fox News shares is actually fact. Just fear-mongering and prejudice. Yep, I'll stick with unbiased news, thanks.

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6 Resources on Whether or Not Birth Control Pills Cause Abortions | LifeNews.com is an interesting read on the subject matter.

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P.S. I'm aware of the sad fact certain parties will declare certain sources invalid out of fear.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that the FDA "labels" these four drugs as abortifacients, maybe you could point me to a source.

Are you under the impression that the SCOTUS agreed these four drugs are abortifacients?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH9yGVmN0hs destroys the left's arguments about the four (4) contraceptives in question as not being abortion related.

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There isn't actually any evidence in that video to suggest these four drugs are abortifacients. She does refer to what was not ruled out in these drugs' FDA trials, which is the extent of their mechanism of action. The clinical trials for FDA approval of these four drugs weren't intended to completely rule out any effect that could be considered abortifacient, even by a conservative definition of the term, just like they didn't rule out that these drugs could give someone superpowers.

It's essentially equally accurate to claim these drugs could cause abortion as it is to claim they cause superpowers based on the pre-approval studies. As I pointed out earlier however, many subsequent studies have shown that these drugs do not actually work through abortifacient means, by any definition.