Kaptain57

Off topic- but I don't often have access to computer - and this persons dedication touches heart cords we must*** protect nurses why are there no signs? Please be kind to our nurses (how simple is this?) Our nurses work very hard- please help us take care of our working staff- thank u..... how about safety words- suggested this long ago but no one listens- people come into hosopitals or ER- have safety words to convey to the working staff they are safe...........work out some code word and pass it to the community.............shouldnt be hard for nurses who can educate the masses already...........I don't understand what the problem is...... (im a large man- fit.........I work with 1200 pound to 2000 pound animals- how scary to a nurse or anyone to have me walk in the door............oh hi Henry how are the other Sasquaches doing these days? translation : poor nurses (in stupid cowboy horseman code)........ why cant we have code words? safety words or an honor code - something so nurses who already have an insame job................they MUST NOT- have to worry about their safety...............they have enough to worry about (well doubt it will go anywhere but cant blame a guy for trying)... love to see the doctors or admin try............just try to do nursing for 40 seconds.........same ol same ol..............want things to change............have the boss walk in your shoes............ (every nurse knows this but they would get fired if they say it............so ill be the bad guy- leave our nurses alone...........they have familes to go home to.............once a month)

A general comment/blog: bear with me as some may be deeply offensive- how can a veterinarian post on this site? what does he really want ? (nothing/justice to nurses- yes there is a bell shaped curve to all.......however. most are very dedicated and I shake my head in disbelief what admin/society expects of these people- love to see society,doctors or admin last twenty seconds in their job..........theyd find out how insanely complicated it is).. in vet med we don't have nurses in large referal hospitals.......not when I was there- the last two years of clinics in vet school and two very intense mash like internships (5days without sleep common) and a residency in vet anesthesia make me more than sympathetic what nursses endure..........people tell them all kinds of advice..........no offense...........glib and academic- they havent been through these cruciables or the caseload or dealing wiht multiple doctors, the incredible responsibity of each**** patient.......not just the orders but while they are bound to moutains of records they are tryiing monotr cases that we all know can go south in a second.........the MARS and records is enouight to give anyone a migrane...........mountains of drugs, complications, living physiology not book, negative phsicology, the esp that many have that something is going south and no one will listen, having to do twelve confiicting jobs at once, or all shift.............u hire caring nurses, punish them for being with theri patients, punish them if they are, punish them for and have to live with anyitng that goes wrong as this is a human being not a bag of apples.......endless.........glib acadmeics talk about connecting and being positve yet that is the oopoisite of clinics- murphy rules and the clincial peopl eknow it..........but cant tell the cheerleadrs and admin.........your not coooperating ms nurse /your not listening (yes they are - this is stupid advice0 any anesthesia or nurses start with the worst that willl***** happen not pop psychocolgy..............connecting also means being devistated if something happens,,,,,,,,,nurses cant sleap because they are nurses and people tell them innanely just turn it off............u hire these caring decicated peole and then don't understand them or treat them like toasters..............they cant turn it off and stay on shift or worry about cases all night...............they are nurses..............they care are are inteliigent enough to be scared to death esp the new ones throw in to theri vietnam............ tip fo the iceburg........... we...........get our rear ends chewed for defending nurses.......we have a partial apprecaition for what they do...........partial and u counld not pay me 56 miillin a day to be a nurse.............each case is not a stat- is a human being and part of the nurses die with each one............no one listens, or belives them or cares........ u hire these peole for their talents, educate them and warn them about all things that can go wrong ADN then punish them if they confront bad orders or need clarifcation or are concerned and wonder why they ................. id be terrrifed with one case let alone the caseload they have...........walking exhaustion but so dedicated whose going ot look after mrs henry or george or highest walking BUN clinically is nurses........ again .....tip fo the iceburg......... inhumane standards caseload and almost no support or worse........... I debate whether to post.............a tiny tiny attempt to acknowledge the life and torture nurses go through...............fine to talk about connection and communication and the other side that writer isn't an nurse...........they do make and diffrernce and react and sense and feel people pain.............oh academic writeer..............try that after 20 ...30 300 cases................ull be a basket case........... or I would no can take what nurses do no one............. if I fail to say it right............my apologies no no non no no expectatoins one man experience

My name is not important- sharing my sentiments....I do NOT want anything but fair treatment fairemployment, fair schedules or reasonable or non inhuman schedules and loads for nurses........want non burnout schedules, want someone as another nurse who has been in the trenches, not counselors who are clueless about medicine or cases or the trenches or give yet more pop pscyhe bs...........to listen and be supportive and work** on fixing*(** or correcting or at least listening to nursing issues..... by definitiion- we hire nurses because they care, they are altruistic and care and connect (people will argue not all nurses.....blah blah that not my point)....most nurses went into nursing to help and be there for patients, now sidetracked in records, impossible working conditions, screaming bosses and im applauled that nurses are at risk with patients which should never happen....by definition the majority of nurses work extremely hard and are watching for physiology, med complciations they really are the guardians but cant if no listens............how can they report or warn doctors if they get reamed for doing so............puts them in tererible ethical delemnas...........so wrong .............so wrong to hire people who care then give them a hard time because they greive or cant sleep or are scared of making a mistake...............id be terrrifed ............to be a nurse........even with one case let alone all their cases and meds and anand anyting can and will go wrong............ we hire the most heroic of people and then treat them terribly and throw them out............its immoral............as immoral as beating any living creature and then faulting them for reacting...........crying or grief or PTSD.... they really have only one choice.............leave the field we have only one option...............we must demand recognition of nurses, their dedciation and we must find a way..................to pour the billions and billlions of thank u......................to those who care for our loved ones..............my grandparents.....................cared for by nurses in ways I never ever would have throught .of ....................I care nothing that what their job was..................they cared and comforted by beloved grandmother and others.....................I don't want to hear about anytring else............I sick to death of this nurse bashing and ungrateful attitude doctors and our society has................. until its your loved one...........and nurses take the time out of their crushing schedules and care.................for you loved one..................then these critic know it all who discount what nrusers do and endure.............. the only justrice is to know....that all the patients nurses have served will be there to welcome them into heaven when its the nurses time..............its redicaouls the way nurses are abused used and throw away.............irts profoundly wrong.

Our Veterinarinary Large Referal hospitals are run by students and interns doing all the Physcials, records, treatments and leg work that nurses do in human hospitals. Like nurses we are always wrong and always in trouble and always getting reamed. We feel for nurses to the extent we can relate.....but nurses have larger caseloads, MARS endless records, impossible bosses and just an impossible impossible job- long long days, huge respeonsibitilies and seldom do they get a break to use the wash room once a week. Many of us have had exceptional nurses such as mine when I went through very difficult ortho surgery at age 18.......I never would have made it but for her......and she taught me a great deal about the selflessness and hard work and souls of nurses very much regret we can not honor nurses enough nor support or acknowldged them......................they deserve it.....they hold patient tottgehr ,,keep the hosp running and seldom get any acknowldegement.... just worked to death and thrown away .........we feel v badly about this.\ thank u for all that u do for us, our loved ones, the sacrifices u all make......tip of the iceburg.....we can never salute or acknoowldge u enough NO expectations this is a tiny tiny tiny tiny thank u to some of the most dedicated and hardowrking selfless people on this planet.......

With profoundest of respects.....this is not meant disrespectfully AT ALL u cry because u care your holding neonates and u and your fellow nurses don't go to a job full of hope and song and fun...........your a tea bag dipped in crushing caseloads of suffering, pain, slow healing, endless complications and oppressive responsibitilties (one of thousands of variables) ...........stress and holdind people togeher and caught between conflcting doctors and politicies... who in gods name could stand this let alone endure and endure why in gods name wouldnt u cry ...(its because u care) stone...........my mother my family.................never cries.... only nurses....................can do and endure the inhuman job called nursing WE need to start taking care of the nurses who save us and save our loved ones......................................they need reasonable conditions, reasonable hours caseloads, its needs to be recognized the severe emotional side of this job even if nurses or anyone doesnt show it...........this environment has a delayed effect and nurses cant turn off their cases thats what makes them nurses and dedicated...........unless we want to turn them into robots like many doctors we all loathe. Out of respect.............WE MUST start to take care of Our heroic (know u hate this word) nurses...... get mad at me all u want...........that our view.....nurses work incredibly too hard to be misunderstood and used and thrown away..........its WRONG

Have pushed for over 30 years to get admin to listen to ........and take care of the nursing staffs...........St Judes and others know.....what nursing staffs go through and actively acknowldge the billion levels of contributions nurses make in the welfare of thieir patients and the hospitals....... We must** take care of our nurses ..........their is a huge range of responsibilties from techical to family to emtoinal support to monitoring to on and on and on.........exhausting, diff judgements, assessements....teh responsibiltiies off the chart..........tip of the iceburg..... WE MUST.......start to take care /listen to .....the needs of our nurses and reasonable job and caseloads...............and schedules.......... don't get mad at me because we know we couldnt last 5 min in your shoes........ NO expectatoins we must begin to acknowdledge our nurses and give them the respect RESPECT and support they have earned....

Over the years, many of us have tried and tried to show our deepest respects and concerns for the inhuman conditions, pressures, unreal caseloads, record nightmares, murphy stalking the floors, juggling doctors and admin and exhuasting schedules and trying to acknowledge both the techical and the emotional aspects...no matter how one shields.....nurses live with suffering and pain.....and losses and it eventaully gets in....... more times than not ....I get eaten alive by nurses and others who are suspicious of our motives...........(we don't **** want anything) ....Nursing is brutal job..........people don't not understand what nurses go through and what they have sacrificed for those of us who survived v vv v bad ortho surgeries held together by nurses...............doctors and even nurses mock us for our respects of nursing but we know they live in a horrendous sometimes rewarding but largely self sacrificing job.... the other day I read where one nurse wrote about years and years of tears.... she failed to mention she works with the worst cases in pedicatrics............she and others fail to realize the reason she cries is because she cares...............I could be run over by a bus and believe me......non of my family and esp my mother would never shed a tear........ nurses cry...........because they care deeply about their patients and suffer with their patients suffering...........even delayed it still gets in.....that no fault.....anymore than faulting someone for bleeding havig a deep arm wound...............why wouldnt they unless they were made of stone.... nurses who cry is not abby normal..............its because they are the heros who break their backs caring and taking care of people and children and the elderly who cant................no one but nurses can endure the pain and suffering that nurses go through..... I defy anyone to try nursing for a day.....marathons and nighbmare of conflicting dut and watching every detail as anting can and will go wrong.....mrs henry if not positioned correctly can choke ......etc. al lcommone knowleldge to nurses............... stress??? ungodly levels of stress...........airport radar specialsist levels........ responsible for everytinng and the most vulneralbe people, the toughest discisoons ..........on and on....... cry? most of us wouldnt last twenty seconds in nursing and go screaming into the good night............ don't kick my rear end for acknowledging nursing....its a brutal job we see what nurses go through............pass me twelve bottles of aspirin plese.............. nurses cry because they feel for their patients and hearts of caring and the protectiveness of lioneeses..... they cry.....because they care.................no one seems to mention that........... stone...................or ice cubes ................never do.....

Nurses would rightly say- don't generalize, we are human, and there all kinds of skills and technologies. Since being cared for and saved by nurses who also got me through very "special" rehab on my knee and other challenges.........I really am not interested in hearing how the Redwoods are just trees or just cellulose and have pin needles and so forth on the ground and so forth.......genuine nurses who nurse are a different cut of the cloth........just as anyone can see that a tree is not barbed wire (some surgeons I have worked with). I know very well that nurses are worked to death, thrown away, have to deal with difficult people etc, work with people's pain and complaints, do the majority of comforting, never get meals, never get to rest except to plug into the nearest recharger standing up........have too many patients, are burned by adminstrators who have never done the job, don't listen and blame the nurses...........when in doubt blame the nurse etc.......and yet.........nurses are highly nervous about praise or attention.........rightly so.......they never know where people are coming from. I so wish we could develop some kind of nursing representative association by former patients..........as a return jesture........not try to curry favor with the nurses.........but out of respect and honor- why would it be so wrong to wash their cars.....walk their dogs.........pull weeds at their house.........(yes I know probably scares most people but I am from the country side and we all do that when people get busy......back home when someone goes in the hospital.......everyone stuffs their refrigerator and runs their farm....just part of being in the country but panics everyone else). Would be nice.......just to say a little thank you for our hard working nurses.......but probably a pipe dream.........would terrify everyone in this country..........they obviously don't understand country people.........it isn't right the way this country and the hospitals treat our nurses. Bully for the docs who are civil and respect them and work together as a team......bully of them. the grateful patients.

truthfully we are very protective of our nurses......who else would want to be with us....and we know it isn't personal its just who they are.....a different cut of the cloth. No one wants to hear about it but that is pretty much the truth. I have met one that was a nightmare but in the main they were exceptional people......unreal how patient they were with the patients.........very caring and very tactful and patient.....I thought people would talk to us and take our histories as this is important in my business but I see now they have a different job....and this stie has been very helpful. More often that not it was the nurses who deduced the patients histories just by being around them......pretty impressive.

thank you for taking the time to post your response......the first time in 25years of writing on behalf of our nurses.......

yes the units I have been on- all had a non violence code.......thankfully and respectfully. I worry about the entry point........what will I come as ......I could be on four levels again.........saying one thing but guarantee you.........I can hear you somewhere inside and will do anything not to scare a nurse or patient........they can be so vulnerable........at that point..........I know.......stay well and stay out of the hospital. You have a good point.

Yes - hear you and understand and respect what you are saying........I have been there unfortunately due to a doctor giving me corticosteroids..........fortunately I had a remarkable nurse who basically said ....its ok mr bear I know you wont hurt me ....come this way and I will take care of you...........thank goodness for her insight........as I abhor the thought of a nurse getting hurt. I work with autistic people and while the majority are very nice, some are less than gentle shall we say........and I think the example of the nurses taught me it wasn't personal and he really cant help it. I know the code would not work on many cases but somehow we patients have to find a way to protect our nurses.......or spread the word through the mental health community and sign up as many as possible......something. I have worked for 25 years to bring recognition to our P nurses .......not exaggeration but..........factual witnessing of the comforting and caring these nurses give to smashed and traumatized people..........yes I do understand psychosis and etc.......I get that and I am sorry the nurses have to go in harms way........but time after time have I seen nurses comfort scared people and scared kids......and that is no exaggeration..........and not attempt to win points or any of that kind of nonsense.........we know the nurses have a job to do.......and we know it is strictly professional..............its different when one is a patient.............and you wathc how expertly they work with people and encourage them back to health.............the apna doesn't care ........no one does...............9000 patients remember and care........they aren't crying when they say good bye for nothing.......Excuse me while the men and women of the floors............stand in your honor.

why can we not work to organize all patients with experience to agree on protecting the P nurses......a simple code of protection and honoring them.......proper distance, proper courtesy etc........as a sign of respect and safety to them.......carry a card in our wallets......agreeing to this code...........

I wish we former patients and nurses could somehow form a code - like an honor code that all us patients agree to sign- no one goes near any nurse....for any reason.......It breaks your heart to think some nurse has to worry about her safety......and sometimes it is hard to deal with........so so sad........she has to worry about her welfare while trying to comfort the people in shock and pain......so wrong .......we should all carry a card in our wallets to let the staffs know we will comply no matter what we are saying (we can hear you and can and want to comply no matter what we are saying verbally- we want you to feel safe). Protect all nurses........is what I carry in my wallet. I hope someone finds it if I ever have another problem. I think the nurses would say...the best way to protect us is to not come back.......well said.

I was a patient in several hospitals. I found it very distressing that although the nurses were extremely composed and professional they had to be concerned about their welfare as I am a large man. No nurse should ever have to be afraid from us and we have great respect and regard for them (and no we know they are just doing their jobs but you should see the way they comfort the traumatized people and hold them together.....what is not to respect and admire?) I therefore carry a card in my wallet that says: protect all nurses.......so they don't have to worry or be concerned. I wish all patients could do the same. I have seen so many people turned around by these nurses and no one cares not even the apna........I just that is the way it has to be. I have seen nurses spend 4 hours with one elderly patient, just gently holding her hand and never interrupting> how does someone do that> or spend days working on someone getting them well enough to come to group. None of the patients believe we are so called good enough for the nurses ....we know the realities and they have families which is wonderful.........but patients all were crying and hugging the nurses when they left. That is not a fantasty or an exaggeration or anyting but a fact......and it wasn't because someone was cooking onions.......pretty amazing pretty amazing......hard to know what to say.