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LOL, I had to look that up to see what Godwin's Law was. That is pretty true! Inevitably every president is either compared to Hitler or the Antichrist.

Wow I have never heard a Type B personality admit they are a Type B personality. I think they were all in denial..... LOL.

I am not sure about the GPA needed for the program. I had a 3.5 from my previous degree and I was told that was awesome by my adviser, but I found it just average. So it makes me wonder what kind of GPA's do they see? My classes transferred with A's, I have heard from some other students that if your grades are below a B they will not transfer. I can tell you that our grading scale is insanity! You need a 76% to pass every class, The grading scale is (3% and up A, 83 (I think) and up a B, and 76 to 81 is C. There is no D in the grading scale. You have to get a 3.7 GPA to get any honors. I hope that helps! Interviews are going on now for the Jan 24th program start date.

Geesh, good luck! I have no idea what I would do, but I think I might go to the interview over the ceremony. I live in Hampton Roads too and it is tough out here, from what I hear from nurses. Have you looked into Riverside or federal jobs on base or at the VA?

I just want to say thank you for posting something positive! There is a lot of negativity thrown around on this site and your post is refreshing! P.S. When I start school I hope to be as lucky as you have been and have some great nurses teaching me.

Wow that is pretty harsh. I worked as a technical recruiter and have an HR degree. There is a big difference between "Bona Fide" which allows you to discriminate if it specifically relates to the work, like a male model for a male clothing line and what you are doing. We all have stereotypes but not hiring someone with a small tattoo on their wrist when they aced an entrance exam or are the smartest kid in the block, that is just wrong. Using practices like that should get you fired and if you worked for me you would be fired if I read this!

Amen! Or they can exercise their liberty and move to another country...... Since they think they have it so bad!

I can not wait either!

I was told that my school looks at both. My admissions adviser had to recommend me for the program and before she did that she was all about my GPA from my last degree. Then once I got started on the program bandwagon, the Director was interested in my pre-req GPA. I think it depends on the school but it really helps when you have shown you are competent in your studies elsewhere, I think it makes you a stronger candidate.

Well either way someone has to be there to operate the robots, do maintenance on the robots, and monitor the patients; so there are some jobs to be made. But as far as nurses go, I do not foresee it affecting RN's since they are needed at the bedside but I do see it affecting LPN and below.

Liberty is the ability to make free choices and privacy is the ability to not be held accountable by anyone for your choices. If there is no accountability there is no safety, thus making laws irrelevant.

You have a profound misunderstanding of textbook definitions, if you are relating your quote to what I said. Liberty is: "freedom of choice", "freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.", "freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice." So what Ben Franklin was saying that giving up your ability to be free and make your own choices for temporary security is ignorant, not sacrificing elements of privacy to ensure public safety. By being transparent you do not give up your freedoms, no one is interfering in your choices by fingerprinting you. But thank you for your attempt at philosophy

Good point!

Yup, totally agree!

You could always add it to a shadow frame with your diploma!

Hey Everyone, I have an HR degree so I just wanted to help out with this. It is Legal and it is called "Bona Fide" Here is an excerpt from Wiki: In employment discrimination law in the United States, United States Code Title 29 (Labor), Chapter 14 (age discrimination in employment), section 623 (prohibition of age discrimination) establishes that "It shall not be unlawful for an employer, employment agency, or labor organization (1) to take any action otherwise prohibited under subsections (a), (b), ©, or (e) of this section where age is a bona fide occupational qualification reasonably necessary to the normal operation of the particular business, or where the differentiation is based on reasonable factors other than age, or where such practices involve an employee in a workplace in a foreign country, and compliance with such subsections would cause such employer, or a corporation controlled by such employer, to violate the laws of the country in which such workplace is located."[1] One example of bona fide occupational qualifications are mandatory retirement ages for bus drivers and airline pilots, for safety reasons. Further, in advertising, a manufacturer of men's clothing may lawfully advertise for male models. Religious belief may also be considered a BFOQ; for example, a religious school may lawfully require that members of its faculty be members of that denomination, and may lawfully bar from employment anyone who is not a member. Bona fide occupational qualifications generally only apply to occupations where the BFOQ is considered necessary to that profession. For example a Catholic college may lawfully require such positions as president, chaplain, and teaching faculty to be Catholics but membership in the Catholic Church would generally not be considered a BFOQ for occupations such as secretarial and janitorial positions. Basically with all the lingo taken out a place can lawfully discriminate if it relates to the nature of the business and work. :uhoh3:

I also had to be fingerprinted for the VA Medical Center to volunteer. In order to get security clearances they run credit checks no matter what your job is in the military, for secret or higher anyway. I am not sure about confidential which is the lowest. A guy in my command lost his rate (military job) and was "down graded" to another job after he filed for bankruptcy and bounced a few checks. He already had his security clearance but they took it away after all that happened. A friend of mine in NCIS, the real one not the TV show lol, told me that once you have shown you can not be trusted with your own money there is no reason for the government to think you would say no to selling their secrets. Just a perspective, I do not really have much of an opinion on credit checks.

Do I think it is responsible for everyone in the hospital to be fingerprinted? Sure if that is what it takes to make the place safe. I did not mention techs and housekeeping because this discussion was about the nurses. Fingerprint them too, heck fingerprint the volunteers. I find it amazing that people cry when things like 9/11 happen and say "The government did not protect us" but then when the government steps in to try to protect us they say "You are violating my freedoms". If there is one thing I learned from the military it is this, Freedom is not free and you have to sacrafice some element of privacy to ensure safety. Sure people misuse power but if the threat of people breaking laws (Misusing power) is enough for us to not enforce laws for public safety then we might as well just go ahead and not have any laws at all.

That was my point exactly, put yourself in the other person's shoes.

Playing the devil's advocate here..... Imagine you just delivered a baby and in the middle of the night your baby goes missing from the hospital nursery. Somehow cameras did not catch the person nor did anyone see anything. The only thing they have to go off of is the fingerprints on the stuff the baby was in. I would be willing to bet at that point you would be happy nurses got fingerprinted.

I think that helping out people who use the assistance to better themselves and their lives is what assistance is meant for. A few bad apples spoil the bunch and when the general public sees people getting assistance and abusing the system it unfortunately puts a bad taste in their mouth for everyone getting support. Keep up the good work. One day you will be making great money and have a great career, at that time you will pay back to society what they gave to you and that is the way it is supposed to work. It is a shame people take advantage of it for their whole lives, you are doing the right thing! My mother is an Italian lady and refused to get help when I was a kid, so we grew up dirt poor. I think a lot of things in my life could have been better if she had put her pride aside, gotten help, got an education, and then got a career. But instead we struggled. I joined the military so I earned great benefits and have a blessed life; so in the end I can't complain too much about the hard times as a child because it got me here. Your kids will appreciate your decisions!

Congrats! I know how you feel. I worked as an electronics technician for 8 years and got a Bachelors in Technical Management; I hated my work life! I learned the trade in the Navy and got stuck in the field when I got out. I pursued a degree I did not want in the hopes of going a different direction with it. But due to a weak economy that dream crumbled. So I had some life altering events this past year and found my spot in this world in Nursing. I only had to do one pre-req, Chemistry, and if accepted I start next month. Like you I have an awesome and supportive husband who knows that in the end all these sacrifices money wise will pay off in the end. Plus I will finally be happy with my profession. Some of my family and friends think I have gone nuts too and a lot of them say "where did this nurse thing come from?" I took care of my grandma while she died and watched our nations veterans die; all while receiving treatment from some nurses who are obviously there for the money not the passion. I know people deserve better and that is what brought me here. I love being in the hospital and I love helping people, so regardless of what anyone else thinks I know I am doing the right thing and so does my hubby :-) You can do it, you just need to believe in yourself! Good luck!

Hello! I quit my job in Jan 2010 because I was unhappy working in electronics. I finished a Bachelors in a field I did not want to work in, in Feb 2010, took care of my dying Grandma, and have volunteered at the VA Medical Center since that time. I have learned a lot and my husband has been kind enough to allow me the time to figure out what I want to do. I am hopefully starting Nursing school next month and will not work until I graduate. However since I am a Vet I can do work study at the VA Med Center and I think I may take advantage of that or just continue volunteering so that I can have a foot in the door when I finish school. My situation is a lot easier though because we do not have any kids. Good luck and I am sure you can do anything you put your mind to!

Shortnorthstudent, Do you go to MCI? I go to MCI in Newport News and the grading scale you are talking about is the same as mine.

Congrats!