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Do family members know how annoying they can be?
I just take the time. I get in trouble with administration sometimes, but my residents love me. Its the most impotant thing I do at work, the minutes I take to rub a back or listen to some poor scared to death elder the first night in a facility. Its a crime not to have more time to do what you know as a nurse is your real job. Handing out 200 pills is not nursing.
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Tonight I was literally pooped upon
One evening on the memory care unit, one of our aphasic residents, a very "good friend" of mine. walked up to me and offered me 2 perfectly formed "logs" in her hand. I quickly grabbed a tissue, took them from her, thanked her, and put them in the toilet. I figured I was lucky because (1) she handed insted of throwing, and (2) not squished at all. God, I love to hear this stuff!
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LPNs called to come in and work as Aides? Is this common?
I work as a nurse on the "memory care" unit. On the am shift there is 1 TMA, 1 nurse, and 4 aides. On the pm, 1 nurse, 1TMA, 3aides. Noc, 1nurse, 2 aides. There are 36 residents. The nurses are LPNs or RNs. I help the aides as much as I can, I feed residents at dinner (have to be in the dining room for safety reasons anyway). Seriously, I couldn't do the aide's job. It is hard physically, and the residents are hard to deal with. It takes a very special person to redirect over and over, sometimes agressive and combative people. It can be exhausting to care for these people and keep them safe. Still, we maintain a sense of humor and love on my unit. I love my job and consistent staffing is key to trust and routine on a dementia unit. Its not for everyone.
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I hate being a LPN in LTC. The horror!
The common idea in this thread seems to me is that nursing is a lot of hard work, rife with libilty, highly regulated and filled with residents,coworkers, administration. Geeze, can't figure why a new nurse has stress. Also happens at the hospital, which some nurses seem to think is nirvana, the stress, too much to deal with etc. I like LTC because I personally like to develop a relationship with residents and try to make their lives better. When I started, I handed many meds in my dreams, cried on my way home from work, all that good stuff. Hang in there, it gets easier. As for some of the questions, borrowing -yes, not narcs.or the stuff you have in the narc box. Combing meds-realize that HS often means right after dinner. Trying to get meds down a sleeping 90yr old will convince you of that. As for supervisors 3-11 and 11-7, please! That's prime time for emergencies. That needs to change. Learning what works and what doesn't comes with experience. There is only one way to get it.
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Control of controlled medications
Of course the administration doesn't care, they don't have to count it or get in trouble if the count is off. If the drawer gets to difficult to count, people will quit counting it, it will be off and some poor new by the book nurse will count it find it off then there will be big trouble. I've seen expired narcs, narcs that belong to long dead residents, 2 stuffed full narc drawers. Just land mines waiting to explode on some float nurse about 0630, at the beginning of a 300 pill med pass. I hate this outdated system
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Do family members know how annoying they can be?
I think one of the reasons there can be conflict between family and staff is that our perceptions are not colored by emotion. Their dying family member is not starving and do not need IV fluid. Bodies that are dying don't need those things. They need to know their life counted for something and your presence tells them that. Your wife's condition is getting worse, she has a progressive disease. I love my residents and I wish the family could see the many times I sit with their loved one, holding hands , talking about the life they lived and the family they love. Family members don't understand that nurses are advocates for the patient first always. That can cause conflict.
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Help! narcotic key turnovers
Its not only the narcs you are responsible for, you are also the only nurses for those units. How can you accomplish any work on your unit? And as was mentioned, how about report? These nurses need to deal with their time problems without you. It would be better if you told them no, but coming in on time will do the same thing. Good luck!
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What do you think about universal workers in LTC?
It sounds to me like another attempt to cut staffing costs by making everyone do everything. If an aide want to work in dietary, they need to be hired in dietary and put their time in the kitchen, not take time away from their resident care. This is a ridiculous idea to have aides do even more. Anything to maximize profits for the administration.
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Anti-psychotics and geriatrics
Thanks for the Depakote idea. Maybe it will work better than Serequel for some agitated behavior. One of the things I have noticed is that one day the resident gets their med and doesn't slow down a bit, just as wild as ever. The next day, same med knocks them out all evening. Of course, thats the day the family visits and is alarmed that "Mom is so sedated". If only they could see her on the other evenings!
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Background Check ran on Dementia Resident
She did this at work? I can't believe she would think this would be helpful in any way. If you found out he was a terrible person, would it help in his care? Your job as a nurse is to care for someone, not to judge them. I think if the family found out they would raise a riot with the management. In my facility, that would probably happen. What is the management thinking allowing this liability.
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very nervous: Narc missing!!
I agree with all the previous posts esp. the signing the receipt from the pharmacy. Also keep in mind that even though this is the first time you've been through this, the administration has been through this sort of thing many times. Just be sure you've documented every thing carefully and continue on with your work. I hope you find out what happened soon.
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Doing away with side rails?
In our facility side rails have to be ordered, and signed by the resident or POA. We had a very restless and relentless resident that would not stay in bed, even though he said he was tired. He has two mats ,one on each side of his bed. The P.M. nurse let him lay on the mat, with a pillow. She said its not considered a fall because he wasn't on the floor. The resident was happy, and the nursing staff could get some work done. I don't know what the DON would think of it, but she wasn't there. I thought it was genius. This may be off subject but do you ever wonder just how the people who make up the rules about restraints etc. figure we can do our work. I have ended up taking a resident everywhere with me all shift, just to keep them safe. One on ones are not planned for at my job we don't have the time. With all restrictions, it's hard to insure safety. What are some of the tricks nurses have come up with to insure safety but still get work done?
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I hate nursing
Well, you've heard from alot of nurses and students. I think the bottom line is, will your attitude poison your patients. Can you put yourself in their place, scared ,or in pain ,maybe disfigured or in a body that doesn't function and is out of control? If you are going to make them think that they are disgusting and not worth your time, don't go near direct patient care. There are many other options such as phone triage etc. You need to figure out your passion and follow it. Don't inflict pain on vulnerable patients just because you have your licence and the nursing board says you're a nurse. A nurse is a patient advocate at all times. You sound as if you need to do some serious soul searching. Agrippa is right when he says it sounds as if you're not content with yourself. I hope you find that.
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What is a typical day like?
I've been a LPN in a LTC for about six months. The heaviest med pass is in the morning. Its not uncommon for a resident to have ten meds at 0800. You will have between 20-30 residents. Also many residents have DM so there is the BG monitoring and insulin. There maybe tube feedings. There will be neb treatments, wound treatments. The NP's order labs that have to be called in and orders taken and faxed to the pharmacy. There are often behaviors that have to be addressed. The facility that I work at is still all paper charting on the LTC units so that has to be done also. All in all, it's a full day. One other thing, people pass away on this unit and sometimes you've really developed a relationship with them and that can be tough to deal with. I love my job. I feel I make a difference in the residents lives every day.
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Angry ER RN new n LTC
I've been reading the other opinions and I have to tell you, those nurses that caused you all that trouble are the nurses you are going to be working with all the time. Lazy nurses, "territorial" nurses, etc. are going to be a pain every day in that facility. I work in a fairly big facility and we all interact a lot of different ways all the time. Charting is a huge deal. As you know as an ER nurse, it's the only way to know whats going on. Think about dealing with that staff every day.
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New Nurse in LTC
1. What or who is NAR That is what we call our nurses aides in my facility. I love the ones on our women's memory care unit. We work together to make the residents as comfortable and secure as we can. One word about families, some have accepted the diagnosis, some have not. Its hard to be careful with their feelings, but its worth it. They are in a lot of pain, missing the person that use to be. Let the MD. or NP. help them see the reality. Just try to be as supportive as you can.
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New Nurse in LTC
I too am a LPN in a "memory care" unit. I think the most help I recieved when I started came from the NARs. It takes a very special type of person to give cares to these people, because often they are very resistive to cares, eating (food that is), medication, and nearly everything you need to do for them. Just about the time you think you can't take it, one of the residents does something to crack you up. The NARs know a million little tricks to get them to cooperate. These people are the most vunerable residents. Remember even on the very worst day, you still get to go home. That's more than they'll have ever again. Believe me that is on their mind all the time. Good Luck!
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considering nursing school at 45 yo
I was 47 when I went back to school. It was hard, I'm not going to lie. Things have changed alot since I was in school. But now I have a job in long term care that I love. I feel I make a difference every day. I learn something new everyday. That is how you stay young. I'm working on my RN now, still eager to learn. You're going to be 50,55 etc. anyway, you should be doing something you love.
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LPN's Getting No Respect
I am happy to be an LPN. I feel I do many of the same duties the RN's in my facility do. The clinical directors of some of the units are LPN's There are good LPN' and not so good, the same as RN's You can't tell what kind of nurse a person is by the letters after their name.
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Dementia specific Dining
On our memory care unit, there are no tube feedings. When a person has progressed in their disease to the point they stop eating altogether, they pass on. A NP once called it a "celetial discharge" as none of the residents will ever be able to be discharged to their homes. I thought that was a great way to think about death. We love our residents but their disease have left just a shell of their former self.
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Rotating Halls??
The facility I work for have both nurses that only work one floor and one particular wing and nurses that work every where. Most of the permanent staff have a two week block schedule which means you work the same place and time on a certain day during the two weeks. It can be difficult at first because every nurses station has a different supervisior and HUC so the paperwork is in a different spot. Even the fax machines, some you put the document face up, some face down. Since I also am a new graduate, it was a lot to learn. I like to change units, I meet many new people and have had to learn many new techniques.
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Dementia specific Dining
The unit I work on uses alot of adaptive equipment, as everyone has posted. We also feed some people. Some times if we put some nutrition drink and some icecream on their"lap buddies" they will eat it. People who will gladly eat place mats, napkins, and protective lotion will turn up their noses at food as if you are trying to poison them. It's always an interesting experience at meal times.
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Made a nursing judgement error- any horrible stories to share?
I too am confused about what happened, but I really don't think a foley can be inserted with a 10cc balloon inflated. Think about doing it, you wouldn,t notice when it wouldn't insert that the balloon was already full? Something doesn't add up. I hope your friend is a detailed documenter. No output? Many people were not doing their job.
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LTC questions
It's hard to believe but true, that seems to be the ratio in LTC. On top of the meds there's the treatments, wound dressing, new orders to be charted and faxed, labs to be called in, behaviors etc to be charted, family members to deal with, and God help me, I am going to talk to that resident that is feeling down or scared or "just not myself" How are we supposed to know if any or our work is doing any good if we don't have time to talk to the residents? No wonder I'm dead tired when I finally go home. Still, I love my job and I feel I make a difference every day. It's the thing that keeps me going.
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LPN doing assessments Mn
In the facility I work at the admission assessment is called Initial Data Collection Sheet. Of course LPN's do it or it wouldn't get done. I also am back in school because I do the exact same job as the RN on the med cart, charting, data collecting but the RN is getting paid more. That really frosts my you-know-what. I LPNs that are sharp and not and RNs that are sharp and not so sharp. You can't tell by the letters after the name.