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speeding is speeding and not worth the ticket or a crash!!! No one should be exempt..although I do know police officers who allow "professional courtesy"..but reckless driving- never. An accident isint going to be avoided just because you are a nurse going to work, you car or the other drivers really cant tell the difference.

No..grades only show how well you did on the exams given to you in school...Nursing school Cs are way different than a C in any other college course. I am proud to say that I am a NURSE who worked her butt off and walked away with a C..I also scored high on a NCLEX predictor exam..I beat out classmates with a higher GPA for the same job.grades matter to school..in the real world..they do not.

Just curious...all the NCLEX prep books I have say that if it shuts off at 75 you passed...as you answer each question, it determines what question to give you next based on your answer being wrong or right...once it determines that you can answer questions to their satisfaction, it will shut the test off....

THANK YOU!!!!! the fact is in my case I was Deans list until nursing school..its a whole different arena..I also have to laugh about it because some of the self proclaimed A students in my nursing class scored lower than me on the ATI predictor test and somehow must have been left off the Deans list every semester too..hmm..?? and when we graduated, our class of 68 nursing students..only a handful graduated with honors..and somehow the braggers got left off that list too...and somehow we all survived nursing school and all names on that graduation list, regardless of GPA worked hard and succeeded in a rigorous program... the world cannot( and should not) be filled with only the A students..of all the jobs I applied to , only 2 of the 6 asked for my transcript..boy was I nervous because I was up against the same job with classmates whos GPAs were higher..funny, this C student landed a job at one of those places that requested a transcript..and the B student? shes still looking....

I registered with Pearson online last week and mailed my paperwork with state last week..hoping the school sends our transcripts soon...want to take NCLEX and get it over with!!! I would definitely follow up if 3 months went by..I would follow up after 1 month..and check junk e mail file..when you use e mail , its what they use to communicate with you

interesting post..it saddens me that some people can be so nasty and opinionated. I was a C student in nursing school( Deans list before that)..I had to balance 4 kids, a job..blah blah..you know, we all have our crosses to bear. A few weeks ago, before graduation, we had to take the ATI exam,a NCLEX predictor exam..interestingly enough, I have an 86% chance of passing NCLEX first time and my friend, an A student got only a 70%..I also know A students who scored very well and C student score rather low...my grade does NOT reflect my knowledge..it means that I sucked at taking exams containing questions that instructors made up..the instructors that actually used NCLEX questions are areas I did well in.. everyone has an opinion, but its the NCLEX that determines us to be nurses. I think that those who say C=RN or any of those other sayings are not defending poor grades, they are pointing out that an A student is more of an RN than a C student..or that one tried harder than the other..we are all nurses, some better than others, but in my 20 years of healthcare experience, GPA isint worn on my ID badge and neither is yours!!!!

Really?? that is quite an assumption..care to back it up with any real references on this alleged info..???

While it is a profession, there is nothing wrong with a ceremony . We have been planning ours, we have a couple of the instructors who are class advisors and we pretty much planned it based on what was done in the past. We have a keynote speaker, the director of our program , president of college all speak..class speakers take a 'trip down memory lane" type of speech and this year we have included a slide show of our 2 years..faculty pins us..flowers given to speakers and dignitaries, programs made up..lots of student volunteered their talents to donate some of these things..we have been raising money for charities and pinning the last year and a half so the ceremony has cost us about 15-20 dollars per student( about 65 in class0..this includes faculty gift which this year will be a single donation to the allied health fund so that items may be purchased as needed for classroom and labs. No superlatives as far as favorite teacher( we voted it down..seemed high schoolish). We are fortunate that we were able secure a hall large enough that we are not limited in our guest list..but no candles allowed, but the concert hall is letting us use thier batter operated candles..and we will do the nightingale pledge..

I am sorry that you have been mis informed..but that is a pretty good start pay...and its the going rate anywhere..give or take a dollar or two...

you are a part of a TEAM..help out..maybe talk with the student to see if there are any issues outside of school. Be a friend. Do your best to help but make it clear that you wont miss out on any opportunities ..the school should have a Lab for helping students out..its one thing to team up students for helping each other out..but the rest is the schools responsibility

Congrats!!! I am also a soon to be graduate. May 2009 and just got offered a position as an OR nurse! I cant believe it because it was quite an interview, I had to convince the managers and director to hire a new grad to the OR and I succeeded. I have 20 years previous health care experience that includes working in an OR. Im an older graduate and I know what I want and this was it!

should they? NO do they? YES

take that bad habit and throw it out..no room for it in nursing school..a couple of close calls with papers and a couple of bad grades cured me of that!!!

first, take a deep breath and slow down..like everyone else said on this post..talk to instructors to get specifics of areas of improvement. We have weekly written evaluations..our clinicals are not graded..its pass or fail. When I get on the floor, if i cant get report right away, I go do my introduction to my patient and a quick assessment, then I might glance through the chart..patient, report, chart all need our attention,the order it happens depends on the day- just size up the morning and get something done so you are not hanging around.

mea culpa mea culpa!! Thanks for setting that straight.. I went from thinking I knew it.. to being confused again!! LOL

the question doesnt say there is more than one order for the ns and kcl..its asking what the intake is for a 24 hour period..150ml isint multiplied by 24...the 150ml needs to be divided by the iv fluid amounts and its saying the kcl is in ns and we assume that the iv of ns is 1000ml( it doesnt say how much ns we have). if you run a 1000ml bag of ns at 150ml/hr you divide to get how many hours it will run...not multiply..

for #2..I am wondering why it is asking about fluid intake for a 24 hour period..if we assume the NS is a 1000mL bag and it runs at 150mL/hr it would run for only about a little over 6 hours...because the KCL is running at mL/hr ( and thats how IVs run) we have to convert the liter to mL...are you sure it said per liter??? The questions doesnt make much sense to me...and medication and IV math is not usually a problem for me...

re read question very carefully..it asks about what you would NOT do...you would NOT-- AVOID humor..if you pick A then you are saying that you would avoid humor..so you dont include "avoid humor" for your careplan...reading through a question quickly can cause errors when taking a test..read carefully, but dont overthink..

low grades are not always attributed from not studying enough or not knowing one's own way of learning..as someone else stated, some people are not very good test takers, but great clinicians..My class average is about a B- there are plenty of C students who have made it through these past 2 years and are doing great by their clinical instructors standards..we also had a 100% NCLEX pass rate for the graduating class of 2008..and that wasn't an A average group either. My school has a lots of papers due each semester that are graded and that affects GPAs from either direction. I agree with what some other posts that have thought that maybe there are more C and B students in nursing school than some will admit..I admit I have had my share of C grades..I work hard, aim high, give 100% but sometimes life happens... I am confident, based on my clinical evaluations, that I will be a good nurse despite the fact that I am no longer a Deans list student..We lost a student last semester whose GPA was higher than mine..but she failed clinically..so she is out of program. No matter what your grades are, I just want to know that the nurse caring for me or my family know what they are doing, have compassion..intelligence can be measured in many ways.

Agreed. I don't like people assuming anything about me either. Nursing school is not easy. I cant wait until its over and we are all working and GPAs wont matter anymore!! :redpinkhe

I most certainly do not believe that all A students are arrogant. I am very sorry that I have obviously been misunderstood here. Like i said, I can spit out my life story and the hardships I have had to deal with before and during nursing school, but I wont because its not the point. I only pointed out that A student, that one particular person to show our fellow nursing students that we cant get so involved with our GPA that we lose sight of the fact that this is a tough program and most of us all work hard. I know students who dont get all As and work just as hard and make great nurses, they just have a hard time taking tests..we are not all the same. I too, have done much better in school the second time around. The 1st time was much like yours..this time around I am managing much more and doing better. It is true that you can have all the time in the world and its about how you utilize it. I see it the same way you do. I also pointed it out because she does utilize her time well, she is studying her butt off and getting As..I am studying my butt of and I dont always get As..if I had the time she had, I would get As all the time too..but I dont. Not everyone is born a genius and not everyone can absorb the material as easy as others do. I like to consider my self an intelligent person, but nursing hasn't come as easily for my as my pre reqs were. I only have so much time in every day to get it done. Its the way it is. So, it is what you do with the time you have, but time is definitely also a factor. I use what Ive got, but if I had more it would be all the better. Getting a 4.0 is accomplished differently by different people. How we learn, how we manage time, how much time we have varies for all of us. some people catch on quickly, some take a little more time. i think that if you knew more about me you would find out that my story is similar to yours. Anyway..like I said before..aiming high and reaching further than you have ever reached is a good thing, it is what I do..but its also about not beating yourself up when you cant always be the 4.0..there really is more to life than that.

wow..first of all I did not say that i "had a life' and I was not generalizing about all A students, I am , and have been talking about an A student in my class. I DO NOT have shortcomings as you implied..that would be the mean spirited comment. My point was to the person who felt that only the A students are the smart ones, that they are the only ones who work hard and that is not true. Being arrogant doesnt also mean smart..another point i was trying to make that someone else had mentioned that arrogant people are that way because they are smarter than others. I am seeing both sides of it and pointing out to those who only see one side that your GPA doesn't necessarily dictate what kind of nurse you will be. i think we are in agreement with the fact that we should not be judging people based on what their grades are. I hope that you have read through this whole thread because what I was trying to do was to defend the "less than perfect GPA" students from those who were implying that only the 4.0s work hard and the C students accept their mediocrity.. I dont believe in being hung up about grades, as you mentioned , we all have come from different places in our lives. we have all bore our crosses to get here. Nursing school is not easy and takes a lot of work. It is not easy no matter what you life is. My comments about the A student in my class stem from that fact that she is arrogant and believes that she is superior to the rest of us . Not all A students are like that. My point was that if I had that much time dedicated to school, my grades would reflect that. Its not jealousy, I didnt carry on about her or about my own life. I wasnt rationalizing, I was stating a fact- the more time you put in, the more you get out. My grades reflect what i put in and there are times I am able to put more time in and my grades show that, then there are the times I do what i can and walk away with a B or even a B-..I will admit that I have also earned myself a few Cs in nursing school. I think our grades are none of any other classmates business. I hope that you can see that we are on the same page here with our thinking, because I agree with you about grades and good nurses.We should always push to do our best, but not beat ourselves up if we do less than perfect. that is what this thread is about. Most of us have aimed high, getting into nursing school was a tough competition and not for those who gave less than 100% to begin with. :heartbeat

I am fully aware of the definition of arrogance..and there are plenty of people who fall into that category and grades dont always play a part in arrogance..arrogant people THINK they are smarter than other people. The only basis for that belief is that it is what they believe. trust me, I know plenty of mediocre people who are arrogant. A C student is a student who tested at a C, that doesn't always have to do with what they know. There are people out there who are much better test takers than others.I have a professor who now has her Phd and she was always a C student, yet she is an extremely intelligent nurse and a great professor. She still continues to work at a hospital to keep up her skills when she is not teaching. Average and mediocre are not the same.But i am not going to get into that. it is obvious that some people dont understand that there are intelligent people out there who dont get As..and yes, outside factors most certainly play a part in grades..that arrogant A student is single, no job, no children and lives with her parents rent free,and she does not pay tuition. She spends every moment she has reading so that she can spit out facts like a robot. She has more time than I do to devote to school. I am not an A student, nor am I a C student..I am what would be called "average" ..a reflection of what is typical..I strive to do my best and If I had that much time to devote to studying i would be an A student also. Einstein was not at the top of his class..as a matter of fact he was labeled as stupid because he couldnt pass a test..hmmm. People skills cant always be learned..sometimes you are what you are. As for employers looking for GPAs,I have yet to encounter that . I have begun the task of applying for jobs and none of my applications have asked for transcripts or GPA The idea here is that we should all strive to do our best, but not to beat ourselves up when we dont get that A. Nurses dont display their nursing school GPA on their badges and it truly isint a measure of what kind of nurse you will be.also..doing the bare minimum just to get by will catch up to those who take that path because that is the lazy way and those people scare me...dont want a dummy for a nurse, but I dont want a know it all either.

I am a former Deans list student..until I got into nursing school. With 4 children, I am only worried about understanding the information I am given. I know students with A averages who have crappy clinical skills. In talking with the nursing supervisor at the hospital i work as a CNA at, she told me that most employers dont look at transcripts or GPAs and cringe when they see resumes pouring it on about what their GPA was in school..it doesnt tell them what kind of nurse you will be. She said you passing the NCLEX is all she needs to know..the rest is about references from co workers, clinical instructors. I have never seen a nurse who has her GPA printed on her badge..really One of the girls in my nursing class does well with tests and spitting out facts(reciting the text books) but she has had complaints at clinical from the nurses and patients because she is arrogant and lacks people skills. Get over it, I see this post as just bragging..there are A students and C students who will be great nurses and there are a students and C students who wont be good nurses..its more than the GPA..