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I wonder why.....

Posted

Specializes in Critical Care/ICU.

I wonder why that on the boards, threads that are started with a negative twist (eg: new grads with attitude; the good/bad/ugly of US's; catty nurses; nurses who shouldn't be nurses) grow to multiple pages while threads with a positive twist (eg: amazing stories in nursing; why choose nursing; high school inquiries; etc) fall to the bottom of our screens with hardly a whisper.

Seems like we always have something to say or an opinion about something bad, but nary a positive thought or opinion related to what is good.

The repetitiveness of negativity is very disheartening. Those threads really bother me. Am I alone?

Any thoughts on that?

I have noticed that as well. When I read a thread that has tons of negativity in the first post, most of the time I don't even want to read the rest. Just finished reading the one about new grads (being a new grad myself), but it had a point and was amusing. I like to b***h about things myself, when I need to, so I cannot fault others for doing so.

GrnHonu99, RN

Specializes in Neuro, Critical Care.

I love to read the good and the bad...have to admit, I need a vent sometimes...I like to read others vents so that I know i'm not alone...also i like to post when I need reasurance...

Just like journalism or tv . . bad news sells. It is a quirk of humanity. We have to try to rise above it . .. it doesn't come naturally.

You have to force yourself not to look at that car accident on the freeway.

This just seems normal to me . . . .not that we shouldn't work on it.

steph

lil' girl, LPN

Specializes in LTC. Has 4 years experience.

I think that people just love a good lively arguemental discussion. It allows them to vent their frustrations. But I do agree that we should try to respond more to the positive.

Guilty........

begalli

Specializes in Critical Care/ICU.

Okay, seeing it as a sort of a vent instead of just pokes.

I like the car wreck analogy.

For me, it just takes so much energy to be negative. It's draining. You know, like it takes more muscles to frown than it does to smile.

Not trying to bring about feelings of guilt, just stating my observation.

Thanks for the replies.

Well for me.. i like to be able to vent.. my husband don't understand fully the things i go through at work.. and i dont want to gripe at work (well not too much lol) cuz it creates a neg. atmosphere and also... well i like to read how others suffer.. it lifts me up lol j/k :chuckle

Tweety, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac. Has 28 years experience.

I think it's not necessarily an ongoing of negativity, but differing points of view discussion back and forth that make them so lengthy.

If you add up the total number of posts, those neutral or positive far outnumber the negative.

But it is interesting how some of them go on and on and on and on and on. With so many opinions, and no many repetition of opinions.

I appreciate that your disheartened, but they don't bother me at all. I've rather enjoyed some of them.

They would be much short if people would realize I'm always right. :chuckle

RainDreamer, BSN, RN

Specializes in NICU. Has 13 years experience.

I hadn't thought about it, but now that you point it out .... I see what you mean.

Now I know what to do ... I should start titling my threads something with a negative twist and then I might get more responses :chuckle

i think many like to be mentally stimulated.

so to read a positive post or success story, it's heartwarming but not provocative- does not evoke an opinion/feedback/input.

those threads that you view as negative are potentially controversial and become popular to post or view because of all the varied perspectives and opinions. some just love a good debate.

leslie

pricklypear

Specializes in Telemetry, ICU, Resource Pool, Dialysis. Has 11 years experience.

I wonder why that on the boards, threads that are started with a negative twist (eg: new grads with attitude; the good/bad/ugly of US's; catty nurses; nurses who shouldn't be nurses) grow to multiple pages while threads with a positive twist (eg: amazing stories in nursing; why choose nursing; high school inquiries; etc) fall to the bottom of our screens with hardly a whisper.

Seems like we always have something to say or an opinion about something bad, but nary a positive thought or opinion related to what is good.

The repetitiveness of negativity is very disheartening. Those threads really bother me. Am I alone?

Any thoughts on that?

All I can say is don't read them if they bother you. I am bothered by the repetitiveness of negativity on Jerry Springer, so I don't watch it. Same with a lot of other stuff on TV. I don't sit and watch it then file a complaint with the network.

If a group of people is having (what I perceive to be) a negative discussion at work, and it bothers me, I go about my own business, and don't participate.

Most of these "negative" posts are issues in the workplace for a lot of people. If you read those threads, there is some positive input on how to turn the problem around, or deal effectively with other people. Ignoring things doesn't make them go away.

If you don't like it, don't read it. But I don't think it's fair to try to control what other people do or don't talk about just because it bothers you.

All I can say is don't read them if they bother you. I am bothered by the repetitiveness of negativity on Jerry Springer, so I don't watch it. Same with a lot of other stuff on TV. I don't sit and watch it then file a complaint with the network.

If a group of people is having (what I perceive to be) a negative discussion at work, and it bothers me, I go about my own business, and don't participate.

Most of these "negative" posts are issues in the workplace for a lot of people. If you read those threads, there is some positive input on how to turn the problem around, or deal effectively with other people. Ignoring things doesn't make them go away.

If you don't like it, don't read it. But I don't think it's fair to try to control what other people do or don't talk about just because it bothers you.

I got rid of my TV, pricklypear. There was just too much that I objected to. Now I waste all my time online.:chuckle

But, I think on a forum such as this, this type of thread is for the purpose of validating one's perceptions in a safe venue, getting feedback anonymously, and getting one's beef off of one's chest.:)

I wonder why that on the boards, threads that are started with a negative twist (eg: new grads with attitude; the good/bad/ugly of US's; catty nurses; nurses who shouldn't be nurses) grow to multiple pages while threads with a positive twist (eg: amazing stories in nursing; why choose nursing; high school inquiries; etc) fall to the bottom of our screens with hardly a whisper.

Seems like we always have something to say or an opinion about something bad, but nary a positive thought or opinion related to what is good.

The repetitiveness of negativity is very disheartening. Those threads really bother me. Am I alone?

Any thoughts on that?

I agree with you. I'm actually hesitant to post most of time bc I've seen some of the theads and opinions FLY around here!

begalli

Specializes in Critical Care/ICU.

If you don't like it, don't read it. But I don't think it's fair to try to control what other people do or don't talk about just because it bothers you.

I usually don't read it, but sometimes I do out of curiosity.

Honestly, I just don't see the point in posting comments or starting a thread in which it's only purpose is to complain about or cut down other people who, more than likely, are not here to defend themselves and tell their side of the story. I guess I'm referring specifically to the most recent new grad thread.

And btw, I have no intention of trying to "control" anything. I stated that it was just my observation and thanks for the replies. I'm not saying don't express yourself, but I would expect that you would accept me expressing myself as well.

Anyway...

I usually don't read it, but sometimes I do out of curiosity.

Honestly, I just don't see the point in posting comments or starting a thread in which it's only purpose is to complain about or cut down other people who, more than likely, are not here to defend themselves and tell their side of the story. I guess I'm referring specifically to the most recent new grad thread.

And btw, I have no intention of trying to "control" anything. I stated that it was just my observation and thanks for the replies. I'm not saying don't express yourself, but I would expect that you would accept me expressing myself as well.

Anyway...

Dear begalli,

Since I'm the one who started the New Grad thread, I think I'll respond.

First of all, what's wrong with New Grads seeing some honest feedback on some possible negative behaviours that might not go over too well as they enter the workplace? This is a perfect place for it, since in real life people generally aren't prone to stating their real feelings openly, but instead resort to other means in order to make their point.

When a new grad goes into nursing with arrogence and disrespect towards established nurses, it might end up backfiring on them. The established nurses might give them a hard time, nitpicking their budding practise. But, if they read some of the experiences of seasoned nurses on my thread, maybe they'll temper their overly enthusiastic tendencies, and make the transition easier on everyone.

Secondly, I think it's a little disingenuious to start a negative thread like this that is merely complaining about other threads that you perceive as negative. It really serves no purpose in my mind, except to voice your negative opinion about threads that other people enjoy.

We work in a stressful job, and for some people having a safety valve such as this is a positive way to blow off steam. It'd be a shame if the ability to do that is shut down by a few complainers. Hopefully, the moderation has the wisdom to prevent that from happening.:)

Most of these "negative" posts are issues in the workplace for a lot of people. If you read those threads, there is some positive input on how to turn the problem around, or deal effectively with other people. Ignoring things doesn't make them go away.

If you don't like it, don't read it. But I don't think it's fair to try to control what other people do or don't talk about just because it bothers you.

in all fairness, i did not perceive op as trying to control the types of threads that should/should not be posted.

i saw it merely as an observation on her part; and it's true....the threads that encompass frustrating nsg issues, are the ones that elicit a variety of responses. and there is much to vent about as there is a plethora of predicaments that nurses face qd.

i don't care for some of the responses that appear disrespectful.

and yes, there have been trolls and flames here and there.

but for the most part, if one is receptive, there is much insight to be gained and if there's anything i've learned through these threads, is agreeing to disagree and has taught me tolerance.

yet if we can't vent about very real nsg problems on this bb, then who are we going to share our frustrations with?

there have been threads that i strongly disagreed with various posts but in the end, and after much introspection, i ended up seeing their pov.

i think it's necessary to talk about the various aspects of our profession; and it's not all positive. we, collectively, work ourselves to the bone and get little respect, recognition or acknowledgement. there are very valid reasons on why such threads exist.

what these volatile threads lack sometimes, is professional debating. some can get pretty rude. if we could banter w/o getting personal, then i think there would be much more receptivity to understanding and respecting one another.

leslie

begalli

Specializes in Critical Care/ICU.

Thank you everyone!

This site continues to open my eyes.

Mystery - I appreciate your reply. :)

earle58 (leslie) - Thank you for posting...thank you so much!

I will take all of this and really think about it. I, in no way, shape, or form wish to offend anyone or cause ill-feelings. We all deal with things in our own way and I've always been one to address what I perceive to be bad with with good....if that makes sense - even with difficult people. Sometimes it backfires though because not everyone thinks the same and may read it wrong. I don't know if it's a type of passive-aggressive behavior I might have, but even at my age, I'm still learning about myself.

Peace to all.

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