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Blacklisted from HCA

So I talked to a recruiter from HealthTrust and they said that I was banned from working at HCA ever again because I broke my StaRn contract years ago. Is this legal? Nowhere in the contract did it mention that I would be black listed if I broke it. All it said was that I had to pay them back $10,000 pro-rated. Could I get a lawyer and sue for wrongful employment practices? and my second question is: if I absolutely can’t work as an RN at HCA anymore, could I just work at HCA again as an NP or MD or CRNA or even Perfusionist? I don’t believe any of these licenses are directly  “employed” by hospitals but have their own groups that are then contracted by the hospitals. could I work for HCA again in the future that way? 

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34 minutes ago, londonflo said:

I guess you knew this might happen before you quit. I am truly sorry this happened to you. I do have sympathy for you but you knew being blacklisted was a strong potential. I do admire you for taking the responsibility to pay the $4,000 you were assessed. 

yeah there were rumors but nothing confirmed, especially since nothing was EVER put on paper. and that’s the point I’m trying to make. the only consequence that they SPECIFICALLY spelled out on paper was a monetary payment. and I was prepared for that and I literally paid that price LOL. but now it’s confirmed that they have this hidden practice of not hiring you even after you already paid off your punishment? like what other career does this? because this really doesn’t seem normal. do engineers have to deal with being put on a no-hire list if they cut their internship short? LOL this is just ridiculous. but thank you for showing sympathy.

Google HCA and Group One. Ever consented to a “credit report” by chance? 

40 minutes ago, dallasmiss said:

Group One

Wow!  Schools actually hire Group One to investigate healthcare program applicants and do background checks?

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GroupOne is an experienced student screening provider. We partner with universities, colleges, and schools to perform background checks on students who will be in contact with patients and faculty.

 

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We conduct background checks for clinical placements, program acceptance, internship requirements, and campus safety. GroupOne works closely with schools and hospitals nationwide to provide a simple and accurate solution to campus safety.

And they make the student pay for it in an obvious way -- does this count as consent, I wonder?

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The process is easy—students simply follow a link to our website, and utilize a variety of payment and billing options including fixed pricing per student. 

 

47 minutes ago, dallasmiss said:

Ever consented to a “credit report” by chance? 

Would you explain more about this? BTW thanks for the info!

Group One is a “credit check” agency that was founded in part by HCA. Includes manager comments that can be trivial. DFW area hospitals are notorious for blackballing people with a GroupOne report which is why I’m familiar. HCA is rumored to have used it in places other than DFW. 

 

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16 minutes ago, dallasmiss said:

Group One is a “credit check” agency that was founded in part by HCA. Includes manager comments that can be trivial. DFW area hospitals are notorious for blackballing people with a GroupOne report which is why I’m familiar. HCA is rumored to have used it in places other than DFW. 

 

no I never had to do a credit check

5 hours ago, nursingsprettycool17 said:

no I never had to do a credit check

They do the credit check on you- you never even know about it.  My credit card has a free credit score report. It also shows you who has checked your credit- it is eye-opening. 

No one is obligated to hire you for any reason.

On 9/7/2020 at 12:31 PM, nursingsprettycool17 said:

I find it ridiculous because if I paid the $10,000 then how would they not hire me again? I already paid my “training” off? like that’s so petty. and then even as a travel nurse? I wouldn’t even be working for them so it makes no sense. nowhere in their policy did it say that I would be banned, so it feels like misleading policies  or something. and what if I go to a different HCA hospital then the one I quit at? even THEY won’t hire me? in an actual nursing shortage? like come on now for a billion dollar company they’re being really petty about this. 

All corporations have a "not eligible for rehire" or "do not rehire" options. Quitting a job without proper notice, breaking a contract, and being fired will almost always get you flagged as 'not eligible for rehire".  If you've placed them on your resume, and a perspective employer can (and will) call and ask if they'd rehire you.   

You might be able to sit in with an HR representative and plead your case. Or maybe you can network with some others on the corporate level about getting that status changed.. but honestly, it's well within their rights not to rehire you. 

Good luck to you. 

On 9/9/2020 at 2:06 PM, Sour Lemon said:

I thought it might be someone with a weird sense of humor playing around.

I more think it's someone who is tasked to Google snoop for this type of stuff with a few key search terms.

On 9/9/2020 at 3:07 PM, Jedrnurse said:

I'm considering developing a split-personality so I can like this more than once!

Here, have one of mine I have enough extras to spare ?

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Just to add to the spot on advice you’ve gotten so far: yes, it is definitely legal, and I would disagree that it is petty.
Many hospitals put you on a do not rehire list, even ones where you don’t have a contract, for any reason you leave the job that doesn’t involve giving proper notice and being on good standing. Breaking a contract, even if you repaid, is definitely one of those reasons. Not giving proper notice (2 weeks, 4 weeks, etc) is often another reason. Calling off your last couple shifts can cause it too. But HCA is very notorious for doing this type of thing. 

I once got marked as do not rehire because I ran out of FMLA time for a medical condition and had to resign in lieu of termination. 

Here are some of my thoughts:

a.  When I started as a nurse (around 2009) hospitals (including HCA) were offering 5 to 10K bonuses (and it was during a recession).  

b. Now those same hospitals want to "bill the nurse" if they leave within a defined period of time (typically several years). Why? Because they can. Why can they do this? Well do to a poor job market (relative to 2009) and the fact that they have purchased so many of the hospitals in many markets they have "monopolistic power".  

c. I would argue that "Group One" amounts to libel and slander in its execution in some cases.

d. I would further argue that HCA's behavior with regard to new graduates amounts to possible violation of the Sherman antitrust act and related statutes and possible, illegal restraint of trade, and again perhaps libel and slander.

e. I would argue than the 100's (1000's?) of newer nurses afflicted by these practices should seek to bring class action lawsuits against HCA and other companies who engage in these deplorable practices. Perhaps they would win or lose, but simply facing the POTENTIAL of having to litigate these issues might be sufficient to dissuade the practice.   Not to mention the negative public attention. As a former employee of The Evil Empire, I can tell you the only thing they respect is negative public attention and things that might cost them money.  

f.  This is just another example of why we need aggressive nursing unions that fight for reasonable pay, benefits and fair employment practices. I am a conservative but if the flag of socialism is ever raised in our nation it will in great part be thanks to the antics of corporations like HCA and their decades long history of avarice and disregard for employees, patients, and others.  

 

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