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nursej22 said:

I think the issue of residue gasoline on the pump handle has more to do with the fueler before me, than my personal lack of technique. I don't recall pumping my own gas until I was 18 or 19. Before that, I patronized a small mom & pop convenience store (much like the kind Karen described) where they fueled, washed the windshield and checked the oil automatically.

Perhaps the handles are better quality/maintained now, as this seems to be less of a problem.

I'm still confused. How does the gas from anyone get on the pump handle?

There's probably a one off here and there, but over four decades of pumping gas I don't recall my hands smelling like gasoline.

It's just like putting meds into an IV. You don't get meds on your hand, do you?

Beerman said:

I'm still confused. How does the gas from anyone get on the pump handle?

It's just like putting meds into an IV. You don't get meds on your hand, do you?

Someone doesn't allow the gas to completely drain from the nozzle after shutting off the flow. You invert the nozzle and a trace amount of gasoline drips onto the grip.

I believe when I was a new nurse that I may have gotten drips of IVF on my fingers when priming a line.

nursej22 said:

Someone doesn't allow the gas to completely drain from the nozzle after shutting off the flow. You invert the nozzle and a trace amount of gasoline drips onto the grip.

I believe when I was a new nurse that I may have gotten drips of IVF on my fingers when priming a line.

Hmmm, well like I said, I've never had that issue. But, if I'm ever in Oregon, I'll be extra vigilante.

nursej22 said:

Someone doesn't allow the gas to completely drain from the nozzle after shutting off the flow. You invert the nozzle and a trace amount of gasoline drips onto the grip.

I believe when I was a new nurse that I may have gotten drips of IVF on my fingers when priming a line.

My last post wasn't very helpful. I can do better, as I think I see what the issues are and I can help you and all the Oregonians who are relatively new to pumping their own gas.

First, you don't need to invert the nozzle. Not sure why you would. True, there is occasionally a few extra drops. Simply stand away from the nozzle as much as you can and point it away from you as you remove it from your vehicle.

Secondly, no need to prime the hose from the pump. Simply insert the nozzle into the vehicle before you squeeze the handle to let the gas flow.

You, your hands and clothes should now be gasoline free :)

Beerman said:

My last post wasn't very helpful. I can do better, as I think I see what the issues are and I can help you and all the Oregonians who are relatively new to pumping their own gas.

I am not an Oregonian. I live 230 miles from Oregon. We enjoy visiting there, which is why I am familiar with mini-serve gas stations.

I've been pumping my own gas for 40 years in my home state of Washington and for a few years, in Idaho.

Thanks for the tips.

Tweety said:

Trump's "feud" with the Pope might be overblown, but Catholics aren't happy about it. I know a few Catholics that are Republican because of the abortion issue. Also many people for the last two Popes have considered them too "woke". But there are also Catholic swing voters and I think Trump misstepped.

J D Vance says the Pope should stay in his lane and out of politics, but I don't think his statement were out of line with what any other Pope has said about war and peace.

The "I'm Catholic and I stand with the Pope" is a thing.

Disclaimer: I am no fan of any pope, this one included.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-catholics-back-pope-leo-as-trump-loses-support-11805555

Not a Pope fan either and certainly not a fan of the Catholic church, but I agree entirely.

JD Vance overlooks the fact that the Vatican City is a sovereign state. Hence the Pope is a head of state as well as being a religious leader. I often don't like it when Popes pronounce either, however as a head of state, it's perfectly appropriate that the Pope makes political statements. That Vance evidently doesn't understand that is atrocious in a vice-president. However, given that it's Vance, it doesn't shock me that he doesn't get it.

DavidFR said:

Not a Pope fan either and certainly not a fan of the Catholic church, but I agree entirely.

JD Vance overlooks the fact that the Vatican City is a sovereign state. Hence the Pope is a head of state as well as being a religious leader. I often don't like it when Popes pronounce either, however as a head of state, it's perfectly appropriate that the Pope makes political statements. That Vance evidently doesn't understand that is atrocious in a vice-president. However, given that it's Vance, it doesn't shock me that he doesn't get it.

Good points.

Plus there is precedent for a Pope promoting peace and not war. Pope Francis held a prayer vigil for Syria. Pope John Paul objected to the US War with Iraq...on and on in my lifetime and beyond Popes have promoted, peace, diplomacy and against the loss of innocent lives. (Now of course their ancient history is another story)

That is their lane and has been for a while. Vance is saying "how dare he promote peace". We heard that.

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Thank you Supreme Court for Slaughter decision...

Trump fires all remaining Election Assistance Commission members, leaving agency unable to act, ripe for election interference for November 2026 elections. The remaining three commissioners of the four-member bipartisan commission ⁠were forced out on Thursday in different ways: the one Republican appointee resigned and the other ⁠two, Democratic appointees were notified of their terminations via email from the White House presidential personnel office.

What is the U.S. Election Assistance Commission? A 30-Second Summary

U.S Election Assistance Commission Frequently Asked Questions

The U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) is an independent, bipartisan commission whose mission is to help election officials improve the administration of elections and help Americans participate in the voting process.

As the only federal agency solely focused on election administration, the EAC works to protect the nation's election equipment, support election officials, serve voters, and ultimately help make elections safe, secure, accurate, and accessible by fulfilling this mission....

In 2005, the United States Election Assistance Commission (EAC) adopted the first set of voluntary voting system guidelines, as mandated under the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA). HAVA also requires that EAC provide certification, decertification, and recertification of voting systems and the accreditation of testing laboratories, marking the first time the federal government will be responsible for these activities

So, will the Trump say they didn't properly certify + recertify voting systems nor accredit testing laboratories, therefore need to cancel elections despite EAC working with the various states election commissions? Or put in his hand picked members with changed rules unable to be implimented by November 26?

The Guardian 9/9/27

Trump fires last members of election commission, inciting fears of midterm 'chaos'

...“It is ⁠irresponsible and dangerous that this Administration remains dead set on causing chaos for our election officials across this country,” Arizona secretary of state Adrian Fontes said in a Thursday statement. "This ‌move undermines the integrity of nonpartisan election administration.”

The 2002 law that established the commission, the Help America Vote Act, states the president can appoint replacements to the commission.

It is unclear how Trump will move ahead with the commission.

NRSKarenRN said:

Thank you Supreme Court for Slaughter decision...

Trump fires all remaining Election Assistance Commission members, leaving agency unable to act, ripe for election interference for November 2026 elections. The remaining three commissioners of the four-member bipartisan commission ⁠were forced out on Thursday in different ways: the one Republican appointee resigned and the other ⁠two, Democratic appointees were notified of their terminations via email from the White House presidential personnel office.

What is the U.S. Election Assistance Commission? A 30-Second Summary

U.S Election Assistance Commission Frequently Asked Questions

So, will the Trump say they didn't properly certify + recertify voting systems nor accredit testing laboratories, therefore need to cancel elections despite EAC working with the various states election commissions? Or put in his hand picked members with changed rules unable to be implimented by November 26?

The Guardian 9/9/27

Trump fires last members of election commission, inciting fears of midterm 'chaos'

Let me guess...you've never even were aware of it's existence until Trump put the final nail in it's coffin?

I've never heard of it. But, it seems it's only been in existence for less than 25 years, and has a spotty history.

I think we'll get by without it.

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Beerman said:

Let me guess...you've never even were aware of it's existence until Trump put the final nail in it's coffin?

I've never heard of it. But, it seems it's only been in existence for less than 25 years, and has a spotty history.

I think we'll get by without it.

Nope! I'm well aware of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission due to lawsuits by Trump admin over 2020 PA tampering allegations, especially voting machine issues; read their 2020 report about measures taken due to covid + CARES ACT along with outside country interference measures --decentralized state voting machines, etc. Voting over 50 years when we had levered machines, don't remember us having punch ballots like FL --their hanging chads stopped with 2002 Help America Vote Act. Went to touch screens, now scantrons so paper ballot record is spot rechecked to confirm accurate vote post election prior to vote certification. PA's biggest issue back in legislators hands is to get the Republican Senate to vote to allow ballots be opened prior to 7A election day like many states do; much work to permit EARLY VOTING like many states --just 1 day or requesting paper ballot in PA, with Trump trying to stop. PA ballots have tracking bar so one can check online returned + county election staff contact voter if issues noted- missing signature or date ="curing the ballot."

2024 Spotlight PA newsletter I devour

Elections 101: Everything you need to know about Pa.'s voting machines, how the state keeps them safe, and more

Politicians in the past few elections have promoted fabricated claims about how they work or taken advantage of routine problems to cast doubt on their security and accuracy.

In Pennsylvania, all voting systems produce paper ballots that can be audited. This allows election officials to verify the accuracy of the outcome long after voting has concluded.

These systems are tested twice, once at the federal and once at the state level, before going into service. Before each election, each machine that will be used is tested again to ensure it works properly.

In November 2020, former President Donald Trump amplified false claims that Dominion Voting Systems machines switched 221,000 votes from himself to Joe Biden in Pennsylvania. He made numerous such claims as part of a larger, concerted effort to overturn the results of the presidential election.

Ahead of the 2024 election, Spotlight PA and Votebeat spoke with state officials about the status of Pennsylvania's voting machines, how the devices are certified, and how counties select them.

2025: U.S. Election Assistance Commission Commends Delaware County Bureau of Elections for Comprehensive Election Security Practices covered in my local paper

Covering Pennsylvania Elections 101

Each county uses one of five preapproved vot PA article: ting systems:

  • ClearBallot

  • Dominion

  • ES&S

  • Hart

  • Unisyn

All five voting systems have been certified by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) and the Pennsylvania Secretary of State. To be certified, a voting system must follow all current federal and state standards; must produce voter-verifiable paper records; and meet the latest standards of security, auditability, and accessibility.

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NRSKarenRN said:

Nope! I'm well aware of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission due to lawsuits by Trump admin over 2020 PA tampering allegations, especially voting machine issues; read their 2020 report about measures taken due to covid + CARES ACT along with outside country interference measures --decentralized state voting machines, etc. Voting over 50 years when we had levered machines, don't remember us having punch ballots like FL --their hanging chads stopped with 2002 Help America Vote Act. Went to touch screens, now scantrons so paper ballot record is spot rechecked to confirm accurate vote post election prior to vote certification. PA's biggest issue back in legislators hands is to get the Republican Senate to vote to allow ballots be opened prior to 7A election day like many states do; much work to permit EARLY VOTING like many states --just 1 day or requesting paper ballot in PA, with Trump trying to stop. PA ballots have tracking bar so one can check online returned + county election staff contact voter if issues noted- missing signature or date ="curing the ballot."

2024 Spotlight PA newsletter I devour

Elections 101: Everything you need to know about Pa.'s voting machines, how the state keeps them safe, and more

2025: U.S. Election Assistance Commission Commends Delaware County Bureau of Elections for Comprehensive Election Security Practices covered in my local paper

Covering Pennsylvania Elections 101

😁

You claim youre very aware of them. Very well.

You fell short though of making the case that the commission is needed.

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Well Trump will be addressing the country on Thursday 9 PM ET, expected he will release info saying China affected voting machines changing votes in 2020 election depriving him of Presidency per news reports today.

What did Obama and Biden's Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and CISA do to prevent interference that allowed him to be elected in 2016 and 2024??

U.S. Election Assistance Commission was involved in certifying voting machine companies in 2016, 2020, 2024 + again this year (per my posted articles). Will a new organization/outside company be changed with re-vetting election machine integrity?

Current CIA Director John Ratcliff was DNI director in 2019 --he never reported confirmed CHINA meddling. AG William Barr disputed Trump, Barr says no widespread election fraud. Awaiting what new info will be released AND what new election procedures/regulations will be desired --or even postponing or cancelling Nov 2026 elections.

Gov Facts 1/2026:

Every Court Rejected These Election Claims. Here's Why They're Being Investigated Again.

On January 28, 2026, federal agents walked into Fulton County's election office with a search warrant seeking original ballots from the 2020 election. Within hours, President Trump was posting on Truth Social about Italian military satellites hacking voting machines and Chinese coordination of election manipulation. "This is only the beginning,” he wrote.

More than 60 courts examined these exact claims. Judges appointed by Republicans and Democrats, by Trump himself, heard the evidence and issued detailed rulings. They didn't refuse to look. They looked and found the claims didn't hold up....

The statute of limitations issue that concerned legal experts before the raid doesn't disappear through the seizure. Unless prosecutors can prove someone intentionally broke the law within the legal deadline, they can't bring charges.

The 2026 Elections and Ongoing Investigations

Reopening 2020 investigations and putting election skeptics in power raises serious questions about how the 2026 midterms will be run.

Becker warned that the administration will use its actions to spread false fraud claims and distrust, especially when elections don't go the President's way...

CNN 7/14/26

Trump says Thursday address will focus on 'free and fair elections'

The Hill 7/14/26

Trump teases Thursday speech about elections: 'Our country has to shape up'

Administration

President Trump teased what he said will be "big news" during his primetime address set for Thursday, telling reporters the speech will be about voting machines and election integrity among other topics. 

"It will concern that subject and we'll have a couple of other things to say also,” Trump said Tuesday, when asked what Americans can expect to hear in the remarks. 

"It's really big news. It's really, really big news, and our country has to shape up,” he continued. "What we're going to talk about Thursday, it doesn't get bigger because without free and fair elections, you don't have a country.” 

"We'll be discussing other things too, but it's going to be a very big announcement,” the president added. 

Reports surfaced on Monday that Trump's address will center around recently declassified intelligence on investigations into the country's elections and what the administration is referring to as vulnerabilities in voting machines. 

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