Roseman (USN) BSN Program 18-Month Track

PNStudent1 · Sep 20, 2011

Is there no one here currently in the 18 month program at Roseman?

Nursing Student ABSN · Nov 3, 2011

I am in the program and still on track to graduate in April. I have received a passing score on every test and have never needed to remediate any test. I think the program is difficult, but the people who do not do well on the tests are generally the same people who do not study enough. There are always teachers who are willing to answer student's questions and help to prepare you for tests. The school administration is fixing the problems, but like every school there will always be problems. I am glad I came to this school and I am confident that I will pass the NCLEX. There is a group of students who are not doing well and are dissapointed about the program, but the majority of students are pleased with the program...they just don't have time to go online and chat about the program.

undecided1111 · Nov 3, 2011

Nursing Student Absn,

Thanks for the info. What type of problems are the administration fixing? Have you lost a lot of students from your cohort?

Thanks!

Nursing Student ABSN · Nov 4, 2011

There has been some concerns about the study guides not being specific enough. They now give us more specific study guides and if we want there is a scheduled review before each test where a professor from the BSN program will go over what we should know for the test, and answer any questions. The school is receptive to our requests and has done a lot to help us get through. Our dean is meeting with a representative from each cohort next week just to discuss any concerns and try to fix any problems we have.

Cohort 2 started with approximately 40 students and I think we may have lost about 10, but we picked up a few from cohort 1 so we still have around 40. We lost one student from our last test who told me afterwards that he did not buy the book for the class or study because he was too busy. He has been working full time while going through the program and he made it to block 9. We are almost through the hard classes and I would be suprised if we lost any more students.

If you are interested in this program and willing to dedicate yourself to working hard for a year this is a great program. If you want to take it easy and find a program you can coast through then I would suggest looking somewhere else.

undecided1111 · Nov 15, 2011

Nursing Student ABSN,

I was wondering if the Dean met with the representatives from each cohort. What were the issues and how are the issues going to be resolved? Thanks

Stargazer4683 · Nov 19, 2011

I am a pre nursing student that is considering the ABSN program at Roseman in order to expedite my entry into a program. I am a bit hesitant after reading about the frustration that has been expressed by current students regarding the 90% testing criteria. I was wondering if someone could give me insight to how the curriculum is set up during the 14 month program. Are there papers, presentations, etc. that are expected from the students.... or are there just tests based on reading/lectures? And more specifically is the testing in essay form, or are they multiple choice. Just wondering if there is any bias from the instructors that may add to the frustration of "passing". Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!

2RN's2B · Nov 20, 2011

Looking for some good honest feedback on the ABSN program....what type of experience have you had? There is a lot of negative feedback on this site and I want to believe that there is some good to come of it...students are passing and will graduate! Do any of you have healthcare experience? Has this helped you in the program? What does your day typically look like and is there some sort of consistency in the clinicals days? Really looking for some good feedback...I am a serious student willing to put it all forward to make this happen! Thank you.

Tex201 · Nov 27, 2011

I am a pre nursing student that is considering the ABSN program at Roseman in order to expedite my entry into a program. I am a bit hesitant after reading about the frustration that has been expressed by current students regarding the 90% testing criteria. I was wondering if someone could give me insight to how the curriculum is set up during the 14 month program. Are there papers, presentations, etc. that are expected from the students.... or are there just tests based on reading/lectures? And more specifically is the testing in essay form, or are they multiple choice. Just wondering if there is any bias from the instructors that may add to the frustration of "passing". Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!

Hi!

The tests are all multiple choice, however, this is a different kind of mc test than any you've ever had before. You have to correctly select any and all correct answers, so if you choose 5 of 7 answers and 6 of the 7 are correct, then your answer is wrong....no partial credit...all or nothing. Each choice will also have multiple options in each answer as well. Plus, a lot of the time there may be no really good answers to select from so you will have to decide on the best of the worst answers.. Then if you are lucky the test scoring will actually be correct and the test may actually be graded properly. There have been times when the wrong answers were accepted as correct (because they were keyed wrong into the computer score cards).

90% is 90% on each and every test, not just an average for each block. You get 5% added to your personal raw % if your group gets group points. Immediately after each test you re-take the test as a group. If your group gets 90% or more then you get 5%. (That is IF the faculty actually gave the proper number of questions on each test) Sometimes there weren't enough questions, so we actually only received 2.5% group points, which is only 1 additional question. Cohorts 1 and 2 were given 5 raw points, which equates to 5 actual questions and that is a BIG difference. We have had fellow students who were kicked out because of one question. So 5 raw points IS a BIG deal.

There are no "lectures." There are videos that amount to a very poor rendition of someone reading the book to you. Often times the "lectures" will actually say "for more information refer to the textbook." So you need to be prepared to fully teach yourself in almost every area of study.

You have some group projects/presentations...though not many. Our skills labs left a lot to be desired. Often our questions responded to with other questions like "What did your book say?" of "How did the video show to do it?"

We started with 42 and we now have 21 left including 1 or 2 from other cohorts that have recently joined our cohort. We all intend on finishing our program no matter what...we just know that it is up to us in every way, not because we are getting great direction/teaching and mentoring.

Wish you the best!

Bea123 · Jan 13, 2012

I'm looking into applying to their ABSN program and I was wondering if people work during the program and if so how many hours per week? Also can you give us a little info as to what the class days and times are like? Should we expect to be there M-F 8-5 or how does that work? Also would you say that it is worth it, I feel like $50,000 is pretty steep!

Thanks!

Jazlin · Jan 16, 2012

Hi Bea123,

The ASBN program is more intense than anything you can ever imagine. I have been to several universities in different areas of study and you will find this the most intense crazy program you will ever experience on every level. I would say it is not possible to work during this program and still expect to pass... no joke. 90% or above is much harder than you would think. For instance: Just think about grasping Pharmacology in 2 weeks and passing a final with 90% or above.

You will be a hermit at home 98% of the time. This means you will be teaching yourself for the most part. The other time is spent in labs (varying times and days) and exams. The modules are all different lengths of time and the clinical days also vary. Only the labs and exams are done on-campus...the rest is at home, online and reading. Occasional group projects require getting together with your assigned group (that you have the entire time you are in the program.) Your group becomes your family and friends during this time... you will all get very close throughout the stress and craziness.

This will be your entire life for 14 months, there is no time or room for anything else. If I were you, I would apply anywhere and every where else first... as it is closer to 85-90K with all the fees, books, room and board etc....

Best regards and best of luck finding the right school for you!

:nurse:

Nursing Student ABSN · Jan 19, 2012

I agree that $50,000 is steep but it makes a big difference to be able to finish school in one year. Most 2 year programs are actually more expensive when you count the extra rent and expenses. Also, it is possible to work during the program. We have many students in our cohort who work part time jobs. The schedule for labs are generally a couple of days a week usually from 8-12. During clinical we were three 12 hour shifts which could be days or nights. I think it is definetly worth it...I graduate in 3 months and am confident I will pass the NCLEX and get a job after graduation.