New Grads... Is Anyone Addressing The Issue? - page 4

by Lisa From Maui

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Does anyone know... Are any of the universities, community colleges, or nursing departments doing anything to help new grad nursing students get jobs here on the islands? Is anyone addressing this issue? Lisa ;-) ... Read More


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    i was disappointed after spending time in Oahu, to see that you too are having the same problem that we have here in Texas and everywhere else. being a new grad sucks right now no matter where you are. i so wanted to stay there on the island. my husband is from Guam and has family on Oahu and i love it there.
    i agree that they should give grads from HI jobs before bringing in traveling nurses just for "experience" sake, they do the same here. they go to the Philippines, grab a bunch of nurses and leave us in the dust...
    i've been looking for an internship for ages, doing anything, and nada. (grad in december, RN since january)

    i hope that it gets better for yall! when all the grads have jobs and you have room for extras, let me know!

    good luck!
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    Yes I know they do that, hire RNs in other country. But I feel bad for them, their rate, its even lower than a rate of a nurses aide or almost same as nurses aide. why I know? my sister is an RN in the Philippines, and she's applying for work in New York and California. One reason why they're are not hiring New Grads(or few hiring New Grad) is that due to our economy (or economic status of the company/institution), they said, training a New Grad/ Hiring a New Grad will cost extra money, why?cause they're like paying an extra employee, your coach, and you as a trainee... that's why they prefer experienced RN.
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    Hello there,

    I think any small state is having a difficult time due to the amount of nursing schools/ new grads being produced and the amount of hospitals in that one area. I live in Rhode Island and graduated in May '09... I interned at a facility throughout school but was told there was "no room" for me due to hiring freezes at all the hospitals in RI... Things are looking slightly better now but I still do not have a hospital job. Working in a SNF at the moment is what I settled for because I figured I need to gain experience some way!!!! My nursing school emphasized making connections throughout school, building an incredible resume, and keeping one's eye open for the "not so obvious" nursing jobs... But I think the smaller the state, the harder it is to get a job! (and anywhere for that matter!!!! this economy is just plain horrible right now) Good luck to all of you!
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    I am sad to hear the job market in Hawaii is the same as California, and I know there are way fewer hospitals/options so it must be horrible. I think that at this time, the states should stand behind their natives and give preference to them(vs travelers); I know it costs bucks to train the new grads but the travelers are gettin' paid really big bucks I understand...how about renegotiating the starting pay of new grads to offset the orientation costs? How about more externship opportunities? Indeed, someone needs to start thinking outside the box because people are in big trouble, especially when they have no job yet and are not considered new grads anymore because so much time has passed. I would rather work for half the pay, than sit around getting an unemployment check from the state for doing absolutely nothing. Oh, and btw they hospitals won't even hire many RN's for CNA and tech jobs, so yeah, unemployment here we all come.
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    Quote from cincin1
    I am sad to hear the job market in Hawaii is the same as California, and I know there are way fewer hospitals/options so it must be horrible. I think that at this time, the states should stand behind their natives and give preference to them(vs travelers); I know it costs bucks to train the new grads but the travelers are gettin' paid really big bucks I understand...how about renegotiating the starting pay of new grads to offset the orientation costs? How about more externship opportunities? Indeed, someone needs to start thinking outside the box because people are in big trouble, especially when they have no job yet and are not considered new grads anymore because so much time has passed. I would rather work for half the pay, than sit around getting an unemployment check from the state for doing absolutely nothing. Oh, and btw they hospitals won't even hire many RN's for CNA and tech jobs, so yeah, unemployment here we all come.
    as far as the cost to train a new grad goes, i call bs, because travelers/agency nurses make a lot more than a staff nurses plus bonuses, money to relocate, etc. i know that nursing is hard, i worked in a CCU for 6 years, went to nursing school, but it's not like we are training for NASA..why not train someone, have them sign a contract, and have less turnover. (in a perfect world)

    as far as working as unlicensed personnel, i wouldn't do it. in most states you are still held responsible as an RN, so it's just more opportunity to loose your license.
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    The bottom line is, like it or not, the bottom line---or so was the popular thinking. Cheaper is better/more cost-effective/the way to go. New grads are/were cheap, compared to experienced nurses. Life was good/cheap until the kim chee started to hit the fan. Lo and behold, it became apparent that experienced nurses actually functioned better/more safely than new grads. Did it change things? Nope.
    The units and floors are over-saturated with new grads. Yes, it seemed like a good idea at the time, bottom-line-wise.
    But the fabric was wearing thin and starting to tear. You simply can NOT expect a floor/unit that is top-heavy with inexperienced nurses to function as well as a unit that has a preponderence of experiences RN's. Book learning is simply no substitute for experience.
    IME? The docs are getting upset. Mistakes are mounting. Families are starting to complain.
    Lawsuits? Yep. Lower patient satisfaction scores? Yep.
    And again, IME? Experienced nurses are starting to pull away from the unit mentality and going for the "every man for himself" mentality. Why? Self-preservation.
    Sad? Yes, Understandable? Again...yes.
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    Just a quick clarification---no offense meant to the new grads out there. But there is a huge learning curve and it takes time to develop skills. New grads need the support of experienced nurses, not just other new grads.
    It's just not fair to anyone---the patients, the experienced nurses, and the new grads themselves.
    Yes, lately I have seen more of a trend towards hiring experienced nurses over new grads. For a while we were having one new grad class after another and putting the grads out on the floors and units in large numbers but not now.
    Good luck to everyone out there who is looking for a job. It's sad to hear that people have worked so hard to get through school and now are faced with joblessness....


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