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I’m gonna say that I don’t believe the validity of this post... and leave it at that... This sounds like someone trying to create a conspiracy to validate a false theory that doctors and hospitals are part of a huge conspiracy together to falsify covid numbers/care/severity... We all know that is a huge crime, and would have to be a conspiracy among several levels of administration... and how do they disperse that money to each other? you can’t just intubate a patient either... if they don’t “meet criteria,” they are aware and awake, saturating well, and in control of their airway. They’d have to consent to being intubated for no reason... I don’t see that happening. And we know that respiratory therapists don’t make more money in the shift by intubating more people, right? And the RT is making you put them on vents? That is nonsensical on a few levels. RTs usually put the patient on a vent by order of a doctor. The RT doesn’t tell the nurse to put the patient on a vent. Next... the amount of extra work that goes into a covid patient is insanely expensive for the hospital, and I can hardly see the “bump” they get covering those costs. You should see what they have to do to an OR before and after a + patient comes in... and all the people in bunny suits taking them back and forth.. extra supplies... the amount of cleaning and UV zapping and the time it takes away from the OR schedule.. insanely expensive There’s more I could pick apart here, but I’m just gonna say I don’t believe this.

The interview for Jeff is unique in that it’s more about you and your personality than facts you can quickly recite. They didn’t ask me a single clinical book-knowledge question. Hope this helps. I think my invite to interview was sent in or around November.

For those accepted: If anyone is interested in a few free books you’ll likely need for 2nd and 3rd semester, message me. There are the ones pictured and a few more. In the center city area near Reading Terminal Market.

Your best bet is to call Rose at Jefferson. She is a coordinator for the program and will have the correct information you need—if you want it soon. They’re very nice... just give ‘em a call.

The only advice I can give is to boost your GPA one way or another. But programs have different rules on retaking courses so you have to individualize that question/answer to particular programs. That GPA is one hard-line that a lot of programs have (not all). This might only boost your overall GPA unless they take the recent chem and pathophysiology as replacements of your old grades. That might be the case because your old science courses likely expire soon (>5 years). That's why it's a specific question for specific program rules. I do have a friend that went and became an NP. One reason was to boost his GPA with graduate-level science classes, and the other reason was to make him a more qualified candidate with the experience end. My other thought was to get a Masters in Healthcare Administration. That will boost your overall GPA and give you another avenue of great paying career while still utilizing your nursing degree/career. Those are the only ideas I have to set you up for an alternatives in making more money and boosting GPA and experience, while also in the interim time of applying to more CRNA programs. As I mentioned before, I had a lot going against me as an applicant, except for my GPA which was a 3.96. I honestly believe it was my GPA and admission essays that got me the interview invites that I did receive. It was definitely not my work experience. But then others make up for GPA with more extensive experience. Then your personality gets you through the interview. I also joined Honor Societies and became treasurer of one at my undergrad college. It was really just for the resume booster and involved little-to-none actual work. For Golden-Key, you just pay a fee and you're in. But it looked good on my graduate resume (trade-secret). That's all I can offer. The GPA is not always the biggest consideration in applicants, but it's undeniably a factor to get around--especially when programs are impacted the way they are these days.

Better luck next time, guys/gals. Remember that they get way more applications of fully qualified nurses than they can accommodate. Keep trying. Between all the programs, there are always application periods open somewhere. Those that were waitlisted should know that about 4 people gave up their seats last year, and some at the last minute. Not to get hopes up, but if it is possible. Keep your stuff in order to be able to take that seat if it is offered at the last second because it does happen. Not getting accepted doesn't mean you're not qualified, just that too many were qualified. There is a ton of luck and countless variables in the application process... I never took O-chem, no GRE, ICU experience was barely 1 year at a tiny and unknown community hospital, and I was denied at two other universities; but I just kept going. Even when I got accepted, I had to sell my home and move my family 3,000 miles to attend. That wasn't goin to stop me--nothing was. The ONLY guarantee is that you will not get in if you stop trying. If I can make it, anyone one of you can.

I’m sorry to hear that, but don’t be too discouraged.... there are simply too many qualified applicants to let in everyone each round. Doesn’t mean you don’t have what it takes. Keep trying. Apply ANYWHERE and everywhere. When I was applying, I was also becoming fluent in Spanish so I could apply in Puerto Rico... and I was getting ready to take the GRE to open my university options... Fortunately I got into Jeff, but I was ready to go further to make myself a better candidate and broaden my horizon of opportunity... and I’m almost 40-years-old, so it’s not like I had endless time to do this... It may take that level of dedication. But if you want it bad enough, you’ll make it happen. best of luck to all of you

Do you know the name of the group? Or link?

IcuRN, Could be... The change was a few months ago... The staff is the same, however. The directorship only changed hands... I was in the priority deadline app period of 2018, but chose my interview for January 29 2019. I got my acceptance that day, but there were still a few spots left. They have been busy with clinical placements, and we only got our sites finalized last week... I expect, they should be letting you guys know about decisions soon. I’m sure the anxiousness is palpable, but sit tight. Good Luck!!!!

I can’t remember. I think it was just a couple weeks, if that, from the time you get accepted. And there are two separate deposit dates, so people may back out after the first deposit but before the second. Quite a few people rejected offers in our cohort, and some rejections were near the starting day (long after both deposits were made). So yes, they may call you a few weeks/days before the semester starts, it’s possible. And, being on the waitlist, I think you’ll also be in a better position for a spot next year because they will forward your app to the top of the pile for the following cohort (talk to them about it, not exactly sure how it works)

Sorry to hear that. Cumulative GPA is hard to raise because it requires a lot of units to counter the established record. I can only recommend to take courses to raise your GPA, get high GRE scores, or look into Puerto Rico. I’ve heard it’s easier to get in, but you need the GRE and need to speak Spanish (this is a good idea if you’re fluent already). It’s very inexpensive there also. The whole program in PR costs less than a semester at Jeff. And Jeff is 9 semesters... In taking more classes, If I we’re in your spot, I would look into a MHCA. Administration is great money and the degree will boost your GPA so you’ll be a better candidate for the DNP-Anesthesia later. I dont see a point in an NP degree or MSN unless you just want to book at your GPA. But I think the MHCA can set you up for huge positions as you’re career develops. Just a thought... but you’ll have to do what’s best for you. Your GPA is not horrible, but you will have to expand your horizons and just apply to every school you qualify for with an open application period. Jeff is more competitive that some, maybe not as competitive as others.... you’ll just have to keep trying. I think the application essays play a large part in being selected, so maybe look at that element as well (I have no idea, maybe yours is great already, just a thought) I wish you the best of luck... you’ll make it happen if you want it bad enough. Remember, If it was easy, everyone would be doing it.

Not sure exactly how it goes... I know they invite a few people to interview from the previous year’s waitlist if they reapply/have their apps pushed to the following year. It seems they keep a couple spots saved for waitlisted students from the previous year. But someone who was waitlisted and then accepted would have more details then me Oh... and they obviously call waitlist students if the selected people give up their seats. ??‍♂️

The student housing apartments are expensive, if that’s what you mean. You’re better off finding your own spot... in my opinion. The first semester is almost 100% online. You have to go to campus for orientation and to take two exams—if I remember correctly. There may have been something else we had to attend, I can’t remember. I think that’s it. The second semester will be in-class two days a week, plus you have to come for a Patient Assessment class about 4 times throughout the semester for practice assessments and assessment exams with actors. I pretty sure that in third semester you have two days in class and one clinical day per week.

No I did not. You do not start clinical until the third semester. And you are not assigned a home-site until a few weeks before it starts. How it looks now, we will have our sites by middle of second semester-ish... maybe.. ? it’s a complicated process for them, so it takes time I got a place pretty close to campus because I knew I’d be in class the first few semesters (the first semester is almost all online though. You only go to campus about 5 times for exams and orientation) Most of the sites are relatively close to campus as well. Also, you will be going to several different sites to complete your required variety of specialty rotations, so a central location is not a bad choice. Public transportation is good so you can find a lot of good places to live that are not in the center, and take the train in. Depends on your personal situation/preferences. There are nice towns in New Jersey that are cheaper and also along the train lines that make getting to class easy, but then you may end up very far from a clinical site. I think being closer to campus is easier. And If you have less than a three-year lease, you can always change your mind... ? you’ll be out here for a while

I never took the GRE, which was a major reason that I applied to Jeff. And I got in, so it’s definitely not a requirement or even helpful that I can see... But it will definitely open the door for you to apply to many more programs as it is a common requirement. And while you can get past that requirement with a high GPA at some programs, its mandatory for all applicants at many more

Sorry to hear that. But congratulations on your Penn interview!!! Regardless of the outcome, you have to just keep the effort going. You’re almost there ??

How I see it: No violation on your part. Possibly a violation on the part of the MA who told you about it (I assume you are not in the group text), as there was no reason for that MA to share private information about another patient if they/you are not part of the case and it's not pertinent to their/your job in medical care. You're safe, they may not be. They may tell you that YOU should have told the MA not to share the information; and possibly that you should have reported that MA. But I don't see how your actions were a HIPAA violation. Let us know how it goes. We have ideas of how this works, but it's very helpful to learn from cases where the answers are not so obvious. Thanks for sharing.

I see now, Anonymous RN is a case worker, not the bedside nurse. OK. Doesn't change much here. Anonymous RN said that the family is refusing to allow the patient to receive pain meds. You would need some control over the case to be able to make that demand, so I assumed. Also said that the granddaughter was the caregiver. That would make the family privy to all med information. But if not, that's fine, my mistake, still doesn't change much here either. If they are not in control, then obviously they are not privileged to medical files, record, diagnoses, insurance information, etc.... However, none of that private medical information was shared with the family--only the fact that the Charge nurse was "venting" about this horrible family, the Anonymous RN was "supporting" it, and apparently, it all got let out of bag and the family got word of it.... which is not HIPAA protected. Should that RN have been eavesdropping? No. Should eavesdropping that RN have brought it to his superior? Maybe if it bothered him that much Was it illegal? No, he could easily say the conversation was loud, make up a reason for being in the area (even if he says he though he forgot something over there, or whatever) or passing by; and he can say he can't help overhearing something. Short of having recorded your decibel levels, you can't argue the weasel's argument. (he said/she said) Just playing devils advocate here. I don't agree with the RN's actions. I think that's a weasel thing to do. I also do not see a legal issue in his actions, definitely not HIPAA. The walls have ears and eyes. Go to a separate room/outside if you need a truly private conversation--if only to protect yourself. Gossip gets around a hospital faster than a Daytona 500 race. I have no dog in this fight, just my 2 cents. If he gets charged and convicted of a HIPAA violation, let us know.

That’s not a HIPAA violations as far as I see it. It was gossip that got back to the person being gossiped about. I didn't read that the RN shared diagnoses, Social security numbers, addresses, or other personal data with someone who was not supposed to have that information. Especially considering it sounds like the family has some power of attorney overseeing care. The family is privy to all medical discussions (but that was smack talk, not a medical talk) It was an overheard convo of grievances against the family. That’s not a HIPAA violation. HIPAA is the illegal sharing of pertinent private patient records/information with those not allowed to have it. Last I checked, sh** talking about the family was not listed in the HIPAA protected information. Not saying what happened was cool, but I do not see anything illegal. Just people got busted talking smack about the patient’s family, not the patient, and the family got wind of it. Careful where you open your mouth... the walls have ears... unless that RN was sharing patient records, SSN, insurance, diagnosis, or other medical information with outside people, I don’t see a crime. Sucks, likely not good for hospital relations, but not a criminal act. I’m interested to see how it plays out. I doubt the RN will have any legal repercussions. He can just say he overheard you talking smack against his friends at the nursing station, and he told them. The volume of your voice is debatable and he is allowed to be there, apparently. He can also say he informed them because he was worried hostile environment would create a lack of proper care for his friend’s family, and that’s why he wanted them to know. I think you downplayed a little those grievance words your charge used about the family, and maybe your “supportive” replies that got heard too. (I’ve been a nurse for a while) But that’s not info about the patient, that’s info about staff not liking the family. I assume it was a lot of very not-nice things the charge was saying (and maybe warranted, as it sounds like the family was horrible). And that smack talk got back to the family. Unfortunately, that’s just gossip, not HIPAA, from what I’m reading here. Now you really have to be really careful because the family can make a case for malpractice from discrimination if something goes bad with the patient. There is documented hostility between the Charge Nurse of the Unit and Staff RNs, against the patient’s family. Gotta step up your game even more now and hope you can get out of this case without legal issues. I would lay low and not poke the bear... this all started with an inappropriate conversation. Technically that charge should share grievances with his/her superior or HR. Or you discuss outside the hospital—not a charge RN trash-talking a family at the nurses station with the staff RNs that are caring for the patient. That looks bad for you guys. Just try to let this just pass. and find a new job, for crying out loud

I’m a little lost. Where was the HIPAA violation? Note: I’m not defending anyone, just trying to figure it out

That was a typo. sorry, Wuzzie. I didn't go back to look at the spelling. I haven't slept in 48 hours, and that was out of memory. The other person I had called, "the other person", cause I couldn't remember without looking, and I can't see on my phone thread while I'm replying.... Don't take it personal, that's an a-typical name, Is that real? And if it is, I'm sorry again...Did not mean to mess up your name ✌️ my bad.

Ahh, my bad. You said she didn't have patient contact until her final semester. That was confusing

Interesting to see how different programs can be. I'll tell you though. Cal State was heavy on everything. I didn't get an easy ride for any of it. Heavy on skills and even heavier on books. We had clinicals 3/5 semesters in a large, metro, magnet, teaching hospital. I don't know how you can get all of your clinical hours in one semester though? that doesn't sound right. You need rotations in Psych, MedS/Tele, Community Health, OB, ICU, and then a chosen specialty. That's 6 rotations. How did she do that in one semester? If that's correct, that doesn't sound conducive to a good education at all--don't go thinking they are all like that. Are you from a small town or something?

Well most programs I see have BSN - DNP-Anesthesia, and that's why the program is full of that stuff I mentioned. As a DNP-Anesthesia student, you are selected because you want to pursue a leadership position, so it goes with the territory. It's akin to me going from 0 - BSN. I did everything in one BSN program after my prereq's were done. I didn't get an ADN, so all that was part of it. And now I'm getting it again in this BSN - DNP.