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I work in a major metropolis and ALL the hospitals told the nurses also in the early 2000s, so I completely understand what you are saying. Any that had LPNs told them they had to become a RN within a certain amount of time or leave or retire if you are of that age. Here if you want to work at one of them , even an ADN isn't good enough, a BSN is mandatory.

THANK YOU SO MUCH !!! You are so awesome !! Your post really helped . I started looking around , and read different things around the web. Some good and some horror stories but none of what I read was as good as yours. Is it ok if I PM you, if I have any questions ??

I don't have any med-surg or acute care. Just LTC. But how can you remember a 500 + page study guide ? I know it is a test, but how many mistakes can you make before you fail ?

I really need some advice. I live in NC and wanted to go Indiana State University. Well. recently the BON of NC decided that they will no longer recognize ISU. I was will to go to a border state to complete the program, but the BON recognizes Excelcior. Which I don't get because you get more clinical experience with ISU. That is the only thing that makes me nervous about Excelsior. Clinicals are 3 days which they call the CPNE. Pass or fail. What do you think ?

Can anyone give tell how they are financing school ? I would like to do it without taking out new loans if I can .I am told I make to much for real aid (grants) and I have a lot of loans from before. I don't want to be paying loans back for the rest of my life.

I think this absolutely nuts. I looked at what a PAs education and salary is . I wonder why they can have still only a masters degree and a nurse has to get to back to get a DNP, but the same or nearly the same pay. I am all for education and professionalism , but I find this outrageous and so should any fellow nurse.

I am so sorry you are experiencing this. I love the PRNs,they are actually like a breath of fresh air to me. I know the pettiness that you are speaking of. But that is usually FT against each other sadly. Where I am , the FT are at each others throatr and cant wait to RAT each other. No teamwork,etc,etc. It is so sad. I really used to like where I work. Now, I loathe it.

My only advice is , if you take A&P through Excelsior, make sure the credits match other schools if you decide to get a higher ducation when done ( ex. BSN, MSN, PHD ). My friend didi this and was told she had to do A&P over because they wanted 8 credits and EC only rewarded 6.

I have a DON that wants to know EVERYTHING. This DON is a major control freak , has favorites and has done some incivilbility. She constantly threatens jobs ,especially of good hard working staff, but her faves can do no wrong. No matter what they do or how much they mess up. I can go and on. The staff is finally sick of her. I hope your DON isn't this bad.

I believe who ever said if you want t o be a MD , be a MD. If you want to be a NP , be one. I am also pursuing to be a NP. And like you I did pre-med, But sometimes life has a way of taking you in a different direction. I think someone said you don't have to be on call. Maybe where they work, but where I am , the NPs and PAs are on call. You should pursue , if you truly want to, to be an MD while you are this age and haven't the obligations of husband and babies. Now having said this, there are going to be some changes for NP. Soon ( not sure the exact ) you will need a PHD. Check with your state's board.That being my 2 cents. I wish you the best of luck .

LOL. :lol2: . This so hilarious. When I was in school a lot of my fellow thought the same. There were people like you and I who tried to warn them. People think it's like on t.v. Well, guess what? Half of my class dropped during 1st clinical rotations. I do mean half. Some were even angry that they would have to actually touch a patient. Your classmate is in for a real shocker. Unless she works in a MD office or clinic, she is going to have to do it, AND even then it depends on what duties they expect from her. Does she think that she will have to never start an I.V. or get a urine specimen ? what will she do if the aide is tied up with another pt? Let them sit in thier pee, vomit, or poop until the aide can finally come around? Let her know where I live , it's considered neglect and depending where you live, her license will be suspended or taken. We have had new grads say that on our unit and guess what? They were warned that thier hands aren't any better than the aides and if you don't like , find another job. At least you have a grip on reality. I am sick of people like this coming into nursing.

Could ladyinscrubs please post the study guides by Lippincott . Thanks

I am so glad you would not be my nurse. If you came in my room with that crap I would kick you out immediately. Do you honestly believe this ? You can give a reality check without a guilt trip. You will learn this when you become a good nurse.

It depends on what state you are operating in the scopes of practice for both. Someone said LPNs don't do PICCs. DEAD wrong. Where I work they can and IV pushes. You can't make generalizations thank you.

Wow, as many have said you have the right to be precepted right . But as a LPN I have precepted many RNs.But I can tell you when I first started my job, I was precepted by RNs , I had the same experience. I a lot of them did not want to be bothered about or questioned about the methods, routes or policies there. Many were offended when I would do procedures as taught in school ( the correct and sterile way). And I was told numrerous things wrong. I had WONDERFUL lpn preceptors and I must admit 2 RNs that were awesome also. I decided to do as taught in school, got a large notebook and copied procedures and policies and kept them in my locker or bag. I also attend continueing education classes to make sure that is the standard and questions are answered happily. :yeah:I don't think that you should go to the manager yet. Try some of these methods. But, at the next staff meeting you may want to address these concerns and maybe work on a team or put one together for correct and consistent training. Good luck !

Yes, it is illegal to identify to yourself as such. Maybe not in your state but definately in mine. If I were a pt I would want to know the correct identification of that person. We can do everything that they can do AND more but they can't do everything that we can. For example you won't see a MA giving medication, doing treatments ,etc. on an ICU . I think everyone should be proud of thier accomplishments. Why are MA's ashamed to be what they are ?

You can at least go one edition down. Usually there is little to no difference. Also try sites like half.com, chegg.com, where you can get extremely discounted texts, or even rent texts.

That happened to a coworker of mine. They told her that they enroll her in to Excelsior and buying their modules was the onlv to get through. She was shocked and angry when I told her that not only was she not enrolled into Excelsior but TCN was nothing but a publishing company. It is so sad because I hear many stories like this.The best thing for people to do is to consult your prospective school if you have any questions and/or doubts.

I agree with impala66. I have seen this numerous times, in fact I have precepted many RNs. As an aide, there where many RNBSns that came in and did not know how to do simple things. Which is sad bc when we were short, or had a sudden flood of pts they got logged down.

You should have your credentials behind your name whether you are a CNA, LPN, BSN, MD ,etc. I am an LPN going back to school to achieve RN, MSN and I worked to darn hard to get where I am and hope to be to let someone let me think that it's not.Someone said that BSN has better outcomes than others. I would like to see those studies.

I know EXACTLY how you feel. I hate that assumption. People don't care what bills or obligations you have, all they see are dollar signs. Once they hear that you are a nurse , it's like they hear cha-ching !!

You can still see a difference ,even in LTC and rehab. A cna/medtech cannot due assessmants ,treatments,IVs,etc.

Correct. A cna can hang IVs,monitor them and so on. I have done so myself when working as one in a hospital.ANd , yes ,RNs are over LPNs, just as LPNs are over cnas, and other unlicensed personnel.

Yes cna 2 are used but they aren't being paid much more than cna 1. I have been both and am a LPN,going for RN. Want to now they complete difference. Go the NCBON.

I am so sorry about what happened. There states that will not accept Excelsior for many reasons, one being that you do all of your clinicals during those few days for CPNE. You always should do extensive background checks on ANY school. After all ,this an investment in your future and career. It should by no means taken lightly. As a new grad, I and my former classmates are finding it harder to find jobs. The scary thing is that, there is a big hype to go into nursing. There will be a lot of people that will do this just for a paycheck.