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A few months ago when I was in precepting, the manager of the unit stopped me in the afternoon one day when my preceptor was talking to me and said "You're a student nurse? This whole time I've been thinking you're one of the new podiatrists." She said it was because I had a white coat on and I'm younger.

I'm a nursing student right now, and I've started looking at things to do once I graduate. One of the things I was looking at was the Peace Corps. I'm guessing it wouldn't be the best thing to just start the Peace Corps as soon as I graduate and take the NCLEX, but how long do you think is good before trying something like that? Do you think it would be ok to try something like that after working as an RN for a year, or do you think it's something that should be done later in nursing?

What about fraternity guys? I'm a TKE.

I was wondering if anyone in here has worked in any of the British prisons, and if so what its like. I'm also curious how open they are to hiring nurses from other countries.

Delta uses Lodi Memorial, Sutter Tracy, Kaiser Manteca, Doctors Hospital Manteca, San Joaquin County Hospital, and St. Joseph's in Stockton. After the first semester, the only clinical sites are St. Joes, County, and Lodi.

No problem at all.Physio at delta may be hard, but the hard work really pays off in the end. It's very good prep for pharmacology. A lot of the Delta nursing students took nursing at other colleges, and a lot of them aren't doing as well in pharm. My suggestion would be to just focus entirely on pharm one semester.

Hi F4Mom. I don't have too much advice for prereqs other than what I put on here already. I took Adamson for physio and Solomowitz for psychology and I really suggest them. When the prereqs are all done but before you've gotten in, try taking HS 3. It's the same as the nursing pharmacology class, but they offer it early. A bunch of other nursing students and I didnt know that. On the upside you don't have to take it with the other nursing classes, but on the downside the nursing students generally do better since they have clinical experience to follow everything in lecture. Once you get in, thats a whole other list of suggestions, lol. Good luck, and just don't give up hope! You can make it!

Are there any groups that nursing students can volunteer with to go abroad?

I mean accelerated ways of getting a bachelors or masters in nursing if you have a bachelors in another field and an associates in nursing. All of the programs for nursing I've seen in the area are a minimum of two years, like the associates program. I finished the prereqs for this program in about a year and the program itself lasts two.

Hey Hapi, I'm in Stockton. The only two schools I know of in the immediate area offering BSNs are Sac State and CSU Stanislaus in Stockton. I finished my BA and I'm starting an ADN program right now. I still had to take all of the prereqs, but there are accelerated programs for associate degree nurses with bachelors in other fields. There are also quite a few associate programs in the area and they're a lot cheaper than a bachelor's program.

Nursejewels, despite taking that long, was the process itself very easy? And did you look for a job first, or start the visa process?

I thought the programs were different. They have different admission requirements for each program, and they say RNs have the option of getting certified as PAs. Do you know anyone whos gotten both? I'm just really curious how that works out, if they end up practicing as one all the time despite having the other certification.

I saw on the UC Davis website that their medical school has a FNP program that is done with a PA program, and if you're in the FNP program and take a few extra classes, they'll give you the PA certificate of completion as well. This doesn't make much sense to me. Are there any benefits from being both a NP and a PA? It seems like they have so much in common it's not worth while. http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/fnppa/aboutprogram.html

Just another US to AUS question, can you only make the move as an RN, or can NPs and other types of nurses apply for registration as well?

When I saw chocolate poppy's post it made me wonder, is it any easier for non-EU nurses to get jobs outside of England? Like in Scotland, Northern Ireland of Wales? Just wondering if there are any places even in England that are more willing to hire international nurses.

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. Are there any restrictions though? I mean I figured a family NP wouldn't be able to do the job a psychiatric and mental health NP could. And are there any programs that actually train you for different work areas like that?

I've been to a bunch of the nursing school websites, and I've seen that you can become a Family Nurse Practitioner, or a Acute Care Nurse Practitioner, etc, but I've looked on a couple of other websites and seen people describe themselves as "Adult NP with a specialty in psychiatry" or "neurology, adult nurse practitioner with a specialty in acute care." I was wondering are these things they actually train and study for, or just fields they've worked in? Can you go to school to become an adult neurology nurse practitioner, and how can an adult NP specialize in psychiatry when I've also seen psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners?

I was wondering about the Band 7 and band 8 nurse positions that are still on the list. I tried looking it up online, but I'm still not sure what it is. Are those positions that you would have to apply for like management positions, or do they have specific qualifications needed? Like are those positions that would require a masters degree?

I hadn't heard about this before and had to google it. It looks like the APA is up in arms over this too, has anyone else heard more about it?

I just got accepted to the local associate degree program, and I think all of the programs here in California use a formula to decide who gets in. They take all of your GPAs and come out with a percent and the higher ones get in. Unfortunately, despite that unbiased admission policy, I've already had multiple friends who want to get into the program tell me "well this girl I know who didn't get in said they admit more men than women." So I'm wondering if that misconception is very widespread, or just used by a few people to redirect their frustrations at not making it.

What ABA model? You mean that lawyers obtain JDs, but don't go by the term doctor? Maybe we should ask physicians to go by that model. Both are first professional degrees. The National Science Foundation has even gone so far as to say MDs aren't equivalent to PhDs. So maybe physicians should only go by doctor if they obtain a PhD or the DMSc (Doctor of Medical Science) degree that the NSF says is equivalent to a PhD. In the eyes of the NSF, a nurse with a PhD, EdD, or DNSc (Doctorate in Nursing Science) has better reason for using the term doctor than a physician with an MD.

I'm in the same boat as a lot of you. I got a BA in religion and I'm in nursing school right now. I know the University of San Francisco has an ADN to MSN program, and that's what I'm thinking of doing after this. It will probably be a little more expensive since its a private school, but its part time and they have the program at different campuses. It's not the traditional MSN in advanced practice nursing though, it's an MSN clinical nurse leader program.

Just to throw in my , I think doctor should be used by people with a DNP. I see no problem with someone calling themselves a doctor as long as they say what kind they are. It seems like most of the med students in here are arguing against it saying that it just confuses the public, and I think that's because the public needs to be more educated about nurse practitioners in general. One good side effect of using the term doctor is that it makes people notice nurse practitioners more. If nurse practitioners and other health care doctors use their titles properly and educate their patients about it, then hopefully people will realize that doctor is an academic title rather than a medical one. Nurses and others also need to watch out how they use the title when referring to others. Start referring to physicians by that term, using "doctor" as a prefix for their name.

I don't know anything about them other than their advertisement for the new grad program, but congratulations! It looks like a great place to work at. You'll have to post later if you like it or not, I've been thinking of that new grad program once I finish nursing school.