Ok that hurt

ok first of all I am not repeatedly failing the same course. Second of all I do study. However I had a teacher who was very unfair. out of 57-60 students 25 failed and we were all close to a 75. I had a 74.3. I met with my instructor many times over the semester discussing my grade. I was actually doing fine until the third exam whcih she loaded with alot of information and asked some very hard questions. Most of the class did poorly, but she refused to help us out. Infact she is probably on this board......, anyway. I really just need help to find other options and whether or not Excelsior is a recognized program. I really didn't need the negative stuff. Most nurses tend to have that kind of attitude. Aparently nursing is some elite profession where only a few are selected. I know people who did not even deserve to graduate that are now RN's so I guess it is the luck of the draw. I guess that is why so many loose their lisense...........Look I don;t mean to be mean, I am just really hurt because I studied so hard. Can anyone give me info. on Excelsior I appreciate what was said before. Is it hard, what approach should I have in studying. Are the test more management or disease process etc

[Headhurt, ADN]

Sounds a lot like my mental health class...and the class after us. Bunches of people did poorly, which was a red flag for the nursing division.

I don't know much about Excelsior or anything, but just keep your chin up, no matter what you do.

[FranEMTnurse, CNA, LPN, EMT-I]

Sounds like that instructor needs to retire. She's acting like she hates what she's doing.

[Agnus]

I answered based on what I understood you to say. I did not say to you anything that I have not said to anyone inquireing about Excelsior.

I repeat

It is not a peice of cake. If you are good at self study and self directed it may be for you.

Of course I do not know the details of your situation. I am no mind reader.

My answer was given in the spirit of helping. I gave you the link so that you may investigate it first hand. Yet you take offence at me:eek:

I don't know where you get the idea that I suggested that you did not study hard.

For the record I had a somewhat simular experience myself. I had a 73 and needed a 75. AND I was fine until the final.

I am out of here. aparently there is more going on with you than first meets the eye

[dawngloves, BSN, RN]

Originally posted by LovKeisha

Aparently nursing is some elite profession where only a few are selected. I know people who did not even deserve to graduate that are now RN's so I guess it is the luck of the draw. I guess that is why so many loose their lisense.....

I know you're really upset at your situation, but Nursing is not for the elite or the lucky.

It is hard, hard, hard work. You need to be on your toes all the time, not just at test time. I know you don't mean to get personal, but I do take offense to you thinking that only the lucky get to graduate. Luck had nothing to do with me getting my license. And the huge majority of nurses I have heard of loosing theirs is not because of being dumb, it is through criminal action (which I guess is dumb)

Good luck. I hope you find something that suits you.

[Hellllllo Nurse, BSN, RN]

Originally posted by LovKeisha

ok first of all I am not repeatedly failing the same course. Second of all I do study. However I had a teacher who was very unfair. out of 57-60 students 25 failed and we were all close to a 75. I had a 74.3. I met with my instructor many times over the semester discussing my grade. I was actually doing fine until the third exam whcih she loaded with alot of information and asked some very hard questions. Most of the class did poorly, but she refused to help us out. Infact she is probably on this board......, anyway. I really just need help to find other options and whether or not Excelsior is a recognized program. I really didn't need the negative stuff. Most nurses tend to have that kind of attitude. Aparently nursing is some elite profession where only a few are selected. I know people who did not even deserve to graduate that are now RN's so I guess it is the luck of the draw. I guess that is why so many loose their lisense...........Look I don;t mean to be mean, I am just really hurt because I studied so hard. Can anyone give me info. on Excelsior I appreciate what was said before. Is it hard, what approach should I have in studying. Are the test more management or disease process etc

Sounds like sour grapes. If we nurses "Tend to have that kind of attitude" then, why do you want to be one of us so bad?

You say you didn't need the negative stuff. Well, we don't either.

"Most nurses tend to have that kind of attitude. Aparently nursing is some elite profession where only a few are selected. I know people who did not even deserve to graduate that are now RN's so I guess it is the luck of the draw. I guess that is why so many loose their lisense"

I hope your spelling is better in your nursing papers than in the above post.

[BBFRN, BSN, PhD]

I read what Agnus said to you in the other thread you started, and I didn't see any meanness in her reply at all.

You were advised to go to the Excelsior website and to do a Google search. If you're not self-directed enough to do even that, then you will have a really hard time with the Excelsior Nursing Program.

[FranEMTnurse, CNA, LPN, EMT-I]

If you're committed to it, you'll earn it. It is very hard work, but for a reason. People's lives are placed in our hands. To become and to be a good nurse, you must do it from your heart.

I have a saying. 'If you really want to get to, you must go through. Shortcuts do not lead to lasting results.

Fran:nurse:

[SmilingBluEyes]

Sounds like the OP needs to step back, take stock and really decide what she is willing to sacrifice to get into nursing. With this attitude, it ain't happening.

I DO WISH YOU LUCK!!!! In all earnest, but you need to really take responsiblilty for your problems and take the bull by the horns......buck up! You can do it........maybe another program, maybe another time in your life. Make sure this is what you REALLY want tho. Best wishes.

[LovKeisha]

I don't think I was responding to Angus. It was someone else. I don't know yet how access this site yet I just get the e-mail that my post was answered. I am not angry. I am just fed up. I was in a program that had alot of intimidating and negative professors and I am just frustrated. I do appreciated the posting and the warning about Exelsior. I do intended to check it out, infact I already called them for the application. My clinical are good. I usually average a B for them. I got a C in one. So I am confident about my success. They just require you to come to NY for a weekend to do a clinical. I hope I get accepted and that I am successful.:roll then I can do this:roll :roll :roll :roll

Oh by the way the class was Peds

[fab4fan]

There are going to be far more intimidating people to deal with if you become a nurse, so consider this a time to learn how to deal with them.

Requiring a certain grade point average is not elitist. It is one of the ways schools determine a student's ability to learn the material. Again, take this opportunity to work on meeting the standards. When/If you take NCLEX, you will not be able to complain that you "nearly" passed. That sounds harsh, but it is the truth.

Is there a counselor at your former school that could talk to you about study habits? As others have said, you need to be extremely self-directed to get through the Excelsior program, and their clinical does not allow for any deviation from their standards.

I don't think a BSN program would be any easier. You need to get a clearer picture of how you can strengthen your study habits.

[caroladybelle, BSN, RN]

Originally posted by LovKeisha

Second of all I do study. However I had a teacher who was very unfair. out of 57-60 students 25 failed and we were all close to a 75. I had a 74.3. I met with my instructor many times over the semester discussing my grade. I was actually doing fine until the third exam whcih she loaded with alot of information and asked some very hard questions. Most of the class did poorly, but she refused to help us out. I really didn't need the negative stuff. Most nurses tend to have that kind of attitude. Aparently nursing is some elite profession where only a few are selected. I know people who did not even deserve to graduate that are now RN's so I guess it is the luck of the draw. I guess that is why so many loose their lisense...........Look I don;t mean to be mean, I am just really hurt because I studied so hard.

- I did not see the original post, but........

- Your nursing program doesn't sound all that much different than mine, or many other programs. Large failure rate and no rounding up on scores is on par with many others described on this BB. And it is not to the Instructor to 'help you out'. And as I do not know Excelsior, but presume it a self study, they will probably not 'help you out' either. Part of the profession of Nursing means being able to make the grade without a lot of help. Because that is what Nursing consists of these days

Nursing is not an elite profession. Elitism does not tend to play in with handling urine and bedpans. It does require alot of tenacity, intelligence and fortitude. We are not 'selected" we earn the title. Phrases like the above demean you and make you look bad. It also sounds like bitterness, and does not bode well. Let the bitterness go before you try to continue schooling which ever way you choose. Or else, it will harm you in the future.

Everyone (well, 90%) studies really hard. And everyone gets hurt when they do not attain what they feel that they deserve. And while we want to help you, it may mean telling you not what you want, but what you need. And sometimes that is not always kind.

Good luck in your future!!!!!!