Nudity?

Uh we still did that last semester. Still do. It truly is the best way to learn.

I'm glad to hear it's still done. I figured it would be. It's the medic way.

I don't have a problem with it either way, but I can listen to lung sounds accurately through a thick sweater. If you can listen to that stuff in back of an ambulance (used to be a medic) you can listen to it through a little clothing. I don't see why undressing would be required although it could be funny, and I'm sensing nursing school is light on funny.

I will have to disagree with you. Clothing can muffle heart and lung sounds. If clothing moves can cause noises that can be mistaken for crackles.

I really think the schools should require more physical exposure visually and by palpation during practice so students are not so timid when with actual patients. If a person can not handle looking, listening, and touching perhaps health care professions are not for them.

Are you seriously that naive to REALLY believe that???? lol.......

Are you seriously that naive to REALLY believe that???? lol.......

If you are replying to me. Yes I am serious. I get sick and tired of dealing with nursing students that are afraid to actually look, listen, and feel. It is naive to think that only touching a plastic doll prepares you to touch a real patient. Plus you will have more empathy for what your patient may be feeling.

I'm glad to hear it's still done. I figured it would be. It's the medic way.

I know the medical assisting schools practice on each other. Well the ones I have heard about. For IV's and Blood draws. Not us though. Apparently I am able to draw blood. I would be scared for the person I draw blood for. We tried it once on a fake man arm with stellar veins in a little 10 minute rotation we were doing.

Okay, WHOA! first of all you need to calm down. I am NOT talking to you so just settle down there..... lol... geez. sounds like you might need a nap... paramedicfnpwantabe you might wantabe a little nicer...

I know the medical assisting schools practice on each other. Well the ones I have heard about. For IV's and Blood draws. Not us though. Apparently I am able to draw blood. I would be scared for the person I draw blood for. We tried it once on a fake man arm with stellar veins in a little 10 minute rotation we were doing.

The man with the fire house veins that you can see without palpation that are basically non existent in over 95% of the population. Those things are great for learning the technique, but thats about it.

My husband has veins like that. I could toss an IV into him like a dart from across the room while blindfolded. Why can't the rest of the population have such accomodating veins.....? The veins I actually had to insert IV's into while I was in school? Not nearly as nice.

And for the record, there was no nudity in my program (since that is what the thread was about).

I will have to disagree with you. Clothing can muffle heart and lung sounds. If clothing moves can cause noises that can be mistaken for crackles.

I really think the schools should require more physical exposure visually and by palpation during practice so students are not so timid when with actual patients. If a person can not handle looking, listening, and touching perhaps health care professions are not for them.

Like I said. I don't have a problem with the nudity.

However, I think I can hear the sounds pretty well. I bet you can too. That said, I'm not advising trying to hear crackles through a nylon windbreaker, but for what nurses are doing (since they aren't diagnosing) it's probably ok to listen through a t-shirt.

The man with the fire house veins that you can see without palpation that are basically non existent in over 95% of the population. Those things are great for learning the technique, but thats about it.

Yep, my like minded and like named amigo said it. People with big fat veins that don't roll aren't generally the ones needing IVs.