Need To Vent!

SummerGarden, BSN, MSN, RN · Mar 19, 2006

i am sorry you feel really bad right now but i am glad you have thought this out and are looking at other options. i do not have any advice that you were not given by your advisor however i do have a few points to make.

first, i noticed that you mentioned that you did not finish your pre-reqs yet and if you do complete them you will end up completing them after this semester. i do not know if this will help you but have you considered all of the students that applied and possibly received the spots?

my guess (because i do not know for sure) is that they more then likely not only completed all of his/her pre-reqs., but he/she received nearly, if not all, as. i understand that you may have had a bad teacher in one class but others may not have had your problem.

i am not trying to be mean but have you considered the fact that being rejected is not about you personally? rather it is about the fact that you do not look as good as others who were applying for the same spots?

the reason i ask this is because i noticed that many others who did not receive admittance and who choose to give up never seem to consider that it is a competition. he/she seems to think it is personal.

i will find out if i receive admittance soon. and i know if i am rejected that i will look at myself to improve rather then taking the easy way out and blaming the college for "wasting" my time and money.

by the way, the university you applied to does not owe you an education or even a spot in the nursing program because you did them a favor of taking classes from them for a year. again, it is a competition and you must be competitive if you want to succeed.

besides, one year on your journey is hardly a long time. it is not even long enough to receive a college degree let alone enough time to receive an associates in science in order to become a registered nurse in most states! so be positive and good luck to you in your future endeavors.

Amysuenu · Mar 19, 2006

I realize it is nothing personal with the university and how competitive the program is to get into.

I guess what made me mad is there were some students admitted to program last fall that did not have all their pre-reqs.

I am sitting here feeling sorry for myself. I guess I am disappointed, but I feel doing the LPN program and getting my feet wet before I go on to obtain my RN degree may be the best thing for me at the present time.

I truly believe everything happens for a reason and this is the route I am suppose to take.

Amy

NephroBSN, BSN, RN · Mar 19, 2006

I realize it is nothing personal with the university and how competitive the program is to get into.
I guess what made me mad is there were some students admitted to program last fall that did not have all their pre-reqs.
I am sitting here feeling sorry for myself. I guess I am disappointed, but I feel doing the LPN program and getting my feet wet before I go on to obtain my RN degree may be the best thing for me at the present time.
I truly believe everything happens for a reason and this is the route I am suppose to take.
Amy

I was an LPN for 17 years. I believe nursing should be an apprenticeship.

One year CNA, one-two years LPN and then BSN.. OH I'll get flamed for that statement. I believe you should just go for the big one when you can.

Good luck. If I were you I'd go the LPN route .. BTW you haven't wasted one minute doing all those pre-reqs. Good education is priceless. Even though you can pay for it with MC...LOLl

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Mar 19, 2006

I was an LPN for 17 years. I believe nursing should be an apprenticeship.
One year CNA, one-two years LPN and then BSN.. OH I'll get flamed for that statement. I believe you should just go for the big one when you can.
Good luck. If I were you I'd go the LPN route .. BTW you haven't wasted one minute doing all those pre-reqs. Good education is priceless. Even though you can pay for it with MC...LOLl

I don't know if i agree with the route, however, apprenticeship would be a great idea.

Daytonite, BSN, RN · Mar 19, 2006

No education is EVER wasted. It is sad that someone would think of the formal teaching they have had to this point that way. There are many people in the world who will never have the opportunities that we in this great country have. RNs are problem solvers. They stamp out small fires on the job all the time. They don't pass the problems off onto others when it is within their control to correct them, nor do they not step up and take responsibility for those times they may fail to solve a problem efficiently. What they do is re-evaluate their actions and dig back in with re-newed resolve. When I am interviewing anyone for an RN position these are some of the character traits I am looking for. I wouldn't be surprised that when it comes time for nursing school interviews that the same criteria is sought out. That, and a positive attitude.

Honestly, the bitterness just jumped off this screen as I read this post. And, to some extend I understand the anger. What I disagree with is the placing of the blame on anything other than where it truly belongs because no one holds a gun to your head and says "take this class, or else" and then leaves you to pick up the pieces if you fail. You did that all on your own. So, I would ask. . .if a reasonably intelligent person sees imminent failure in a class coming, why keep on with the class and take a "D"? Surely, you must have known the effect a "D" would have on your chance of getting into the nursing program. Not only that, but most nursing programs have waiting lists that everyone has to take their place on. Eventually, your number comes up.

I took university classes, one my health science chemistry, where there were over 300 hundred of us in a lecture hall and the prof couldn't tell any one of us by our names. He was the department chairman and we were his only lowly class of lower classmen that he got stuck with. His lectures were way beyond the subject matter and he would drone on and on about his research. However, the sneaky SOB made it very clear in his syllabus what he was going to test us over and it was up to us to read the material. So, you could say that he qualified as one of the worst possible profs any of us in the nursing program could have had. It was a trial by fire. If you can make it through a class like that, you are RN material. Whiners, complainers, fingerpointers, and people with no motivation go to the back of the line.

SummerGarden, BSN, MSN, RN · Mar 19, 2006

i am sitting here feeling sorry for myself. i guess i am disappointed, but i feel doing the lpn program and getting my feet wet before i go on to obtain my rn degree may be the best thing for me at the present time.
amy

i know how you feel, amy. i know of a nursing student (soon to be graduate) who got into a fall program that pretty much allowed everyone who qualified that year acceptance because they had more instructors and could accomodate more students. nevermind the fact that she was far from being done with her pre-reqs or co-reqs at the time she submitted her application.

the following year, i know of a student who got into the spring who was not a very good student (she had poor grades in science classes, cs and ds, and had low test scores). but because her competition was similar to her, if not worse, she got in and was asked to retake the d courses as a nursing student.

fast forward to this year, the year i am applying. test scores are high, many people have finished all of his/her pre-reqs and co-reqs (so those who are still enrolled in pre-reqs are flat out of luck), and there are limited spaces due to the lack of instructors. oh and let me mention that there are more people then ever applying to this program. :uhoh3:

so, i am in a similar boat. i look at past years and i know i would be in the program if i applied back then because i am a good student, finished with pre-reqs before applying, and i have good test scores. unfortunately i did not apply back then and so i have to accept the reality that if i do not get in, it is because of this year's competition.

Irene joy · Mar 19, 2006

I know that around here while those prerequs may not be necessary for LPN route, they will always be necessary for any bridge program from LPN to RN, so they wont be a waste of time, this way when your ready to apply for RN youlle be a step ahead of other LPNs that are starting from scratch.

smk1, LPN · Mar 19, 2006

Glad to see that you are finding a way to make this education work for you. I understand everyones point about not blaming the school, but it sounds like the OP had an unusually rough year and is just needing to vent. Certainly this is an appropriate place for that. The LPN route may be just what you need, and you will already have the RN prereqs done if you should choose to bridge later on. You are just taking an alternative route to your end goal. Good luck and try not to beat yourself up. Nursing school is very competitive now and there was no guarantee you would get in even with a 4.0 in a lot of places. Plan B is a good thing to have. Good luck!

allthingsbright · Mar 20, 2006

I just got word yesterday from the university I have devoted my time to since Jan. 05, was not accepted into the fall ADN class. I will have all of my pre-requisites completed the end of this semester, with the exception of Physical Science/Chemistry which I need to retake due to receiving a D and having what most students have referred to as the worst possible prof to teach a large class (There were 180 students and this was her first time teaching a class that big). I am sure it did not help during the fall semester I was contemplating divorce proceedings and moving out. I did end up getting a 105 on the NLN pre-entrance exam.
I explained all of this to my advisor and she told me just to continue taking more classes if was not accepted into this fall's program. I was very disappointed with her reply as my grades were great during my first semester and summer courses. At this point, I don't even feel like going back to classes next week and finishing this semester. I feel it has been a waste of time!
This made reconsider the university's nursing program and rethink my future. I contacted the local vo-tech and researched their LPN program and took the entrance exam and completed the application process. I do not have my results yet, but it did not seem overly difficult. To be honest this is not the route I wanted to take, but waiting another year and putting my life on hold and it costing me more money to take wasteful classes thru the university seemed ludicris!
I think doing the LPN program will be my best option. I also feel that if I were to go straight into the RN program I would have been accepted and I truly believe someone is watching out for me and knows perhaps it is too stressful of a time to learning everything to becoming an RN right off the bat with my divorce and custody situation.
I have talked to various people who have been thru the LPN program here at the Vo-tech and are very pleased with their outcome and most have decided to go on and get their RN degrees.
I guess I am really upset at the fact I gave up a decent job to devote my time to my studies and go to nursing school to become an RN, when if I knew what I knew now, I would be getting ready to graduate with my LPN degree this summer and not wasted this extra time and money. I feel like the university has played god with so many of us and now we are in this situation with taken all of these courses and spent all of this time.
I would love to hear from anybody else that has fallen into this situation.
Thanks for letting me vent.

OMGoodness, do I feel your pain. You are not the only person who would make a great nurse, IS a great student, etc and cant get into a program. It is a BIG problem, IMHO! I dont know what the solution is, but it is ridiculous!

I just want to encourage you not to give up! Check out the BSN programs in your area, take some more classes, etc. I almost gave up last year (LONG story) but am in a program and will have my RN in three semesters. I cried a lot, though. BUT I stuck it out and I will have my degree. I am so sorry this has happened to you. (I know of several people who have been turned away over and over and are still going for it!) Nurses learn early to be persistant, positive and hard workers.

Best wishes!

LanaBanana · Mar 20, 2006

I know that around here while those prerequs may not be necessary for LPN route, they will always be necessary for any bridge program from LPN to RN, so they wont be a waste of time, this way when your ready to apply for RN youlle be a step ahead of other LPNs that are starting from scratch.

:yeahthat:

In the LPN program I'll be starting in May, you can even get credit with them for some of the classes you've already taken which will get you through the program faster. I also have almost all my pre-reqs finished, but I do not have a competetive GPA. I'm doing the LPN route now and after a year will start the LPN-BSN bridge program, putting to use all those classes I've taken. Don't give up! If nursing was easy to get in to, there wouldn't be a nursing shortage!

carolinapooh, BSN, RN · Mar 20, 2006

WHOA, ya'll - give this poor girl a few minutes to feel sorry for herself and to feel bad!! Everyone's allowed that!'

I think she knew what the deal was from the start, but I think she's still allowed to be disappointed and a bit frustrated. The title of her thread WAS, after all, "Need to vent!" - so let her do that! She's obviously thought all this out and just needed someone to cry to for a minute or so.

And as for the "D" - when my father was ill last year I too stuck it out in a class that I was slowly slipping under in... you know you're capable of better and you keep thinking, I'll do better on the next exam...and then you DON'T, and you don't know what to do. I was lucky in that when my father was dying in the ICU, the nurse manager (who said there was NO need for me to have a black mark on my record; she had found out my school plans a while before) was kind enough to write a letter to my dean, explaining that I had spent every day for the previous two and a half weeks (oh, yeah - my boss is also a gem) in the hospital with him AND had helped care for him before he was hospitalized (all very, very true) - and the dean allowed me to drop the class WAAAYYY past the drop date; the kicker was I forfeited my tuition. So I got lucky in that respect. I'd rather lose money than have a terrible grade on my record.

The OP was probably thinking to herself - it will be OK, I'll fix it, I'll fix it - just like I was, and she COULDN'T. It sounds as though she had a heck of semester besides.

So ease up....sometimes folks are just looking for a lift in their self-confidence, and we are probably viewed as a more sympathetic audience. I've heard some BS stories on here, yes, but I think this person should be allowed to vent - I heard a lot of personal disappointment in her OP - and yes, she's upset - but I think it's more with HERSELF. She knows the deal!

Let's ALL start giving folks a bit of credit now and then.