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ACNP sans experience?

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Someone please tell me that I misread a post that ACNP programs are now accepting students with no acute care RN experience.

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    Uh I hope not Jules. However, nothing surprises me anymore about nursing education or rather the lack of it.

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    As someone who is in the middle of an ICU rotation, I can comfortable say that there's no way anyone without acute experience could survive 5 minutes in the ICU.

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    Hasn't that been the case for some time? Columbia comes to mind, they have direct-entry programs for a whole slew of APNs, including acute care.

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    Hasn't that been the case for some time? Columbia comes to mind, they have direct-entry programs for a whole slew of APNs, including acute care.

    Thanks, I was not aware of that. I thought CNMs, CRNAs and ACNPs still had admission standards.

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    Thanks, I was not aware of that. I thought CNMs, CRNAs and ACNPs still had admission standards.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree it's insane. I assume, as Rocknurse says, that anyone without ICU experience would flounder in an ICU, making me wonder why a person would pursue a direct-entry ACNP program in the first place.

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    It's all down to money. Most ACNP programs still require experience, but there are some cropping up that do not. Schools want money. The CCNE and ACEN couldn't give a d*mn about the state of NP education. So what do we expect. NPs are a dime a dozen now.

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    im sure the nursing propaganda machine will soon produce a study that says day 1 direct entry acute care NPs are > to pulm/cc board certed physicians

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    im sure the nursing propaganda machine will soon produce a study that says day 1 direct entry acute care NPs are > to pulm/cc board certed physicians

    Thanks I spewed coffee all over my screen - lol

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    I can't imagine anyone being successful in a true ACNP program without having prior critical care experience. It is such a STEEP learning curve! And having never been at the bedside as an RN in a critical care role, to jump into ACNP? To me, that's just a recipe for disaster. You really need that solid foundation first.

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    Wow...is it just NNPs and CRNAs left requiring experience? I know midwifery has direct entry but that's actually really common worldwide. The UK, for example doesn't even have them do a nursing degree, they just do a degree in midwifery.

    The NNP boards don't actually require experience, but no school will let you on to the clinical portion without the requisite RN experience. I don't even see how one could pass boards without the foundation of knowledge...

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