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Tweety said:

No and I think that's left wing fear stroking rhetoric.  

 They wouldn't do something so openly plain and simple.

It is interesting they decided on a right wing European word rather than keep using "mass deportation of illegals".  Meh....okay.

 Miller was outed as a White Nationalist, so I can understand concerns.  Also Trump has offered white South Africans an easy path to the US while stroking ideas of deportation of citizens, so again I understand concerns that there's some undercurrent of ridding the country of violent criminals and that we are attack at the border, to a bit of white enthocentlrism.  

 

 

Stroking ideas of deporting citizens?  Where in the world are you getting this from? 

Tweety said:

No and I think that's left wing fear stroking rhetoric.  

 They wouldn't do something so openly plain and simple.

It is interesting they decided on a right wing European word rather than keep using "mass deportation of illegal immigrants".  Meh....okay.

 Miller was outed as a White Nationalist, so I can understand concerns.  Also Trump has offered white South Africans an easy path to the US while stroking ideas of deportation of citizens, so again I understand concerns that there's some undercurrent white ethnocentrism (if that's the right word) along with the "we're under invasion by criminals" that we need to stop.

 

 

Re "fear-stoking rhetoric" - just think of me as AN's very own canary. It's what radical thought is for, sociologically speaking. I very much hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

Who's the "they" using a "right wing European  word"? Me? Don't let it come as a shock to you, but white supremacists actually are right wing Europeans. And I use it because it's their own term and includes a whole lot more than mass deportation of "illegals".

NRSKarenRN said:

Hard to keep up with the news from Trump Admin:, discussed on legacy media I watched over past 2 weeks

4/6/25 PBS

WATCH: Trump 'simply floated' idea of deporting U.S. citizens, White House's Leavitt says

4/10/25  Newsweek

White House Confirms Trump Is Exploring Ways To 'Deport' U.S. Citizens

4/11/25:

Supreme Court Justices Address Donald Trump's Idea of Deporting US Citizens
4/6/25:

NBC News 04/14/25

'Obviously illegal’: Experts pan Trump's plan to deport 'homegrown criminals'

 

I'm aware of all that.  The  @Tweety post I replied to was missing quite a bit of context.  I didn't realize he was speaking of the same thing.

Show of hands....of all us US citizens who are not incarcerated, who has a fear of being deported?

Yeah, yeah, I know, I will be accused of nitpicking here, but I think language needs to be meaningful. I've heard a lot of words thrown around in media (legacy, network, social) and I wish they would use correct terms. 

Deportation refers to the removal  of an immigrant from the country.

Refoulment is the return of a refugee or asylee to a country where their life may be threatened. 

Forced removal of a citizen would be exiling.

Human trafficking is the act of recruiting, transporting, transferring, harboring, or receiving individuals through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of exploitation.

In my opinion, when the president talks about sending the "home-growns" to the prison in  El Salvador (SECOT), that is exiling. Also cruel and unusual punishment, which is prohibited by the 8th Amendment. 

Sending immigrants to SECOT appears to be human trafficking. 

NRSKarenRN said:

 

 

 

Awaiting Canada's election results; wonder how large Trumps vote will be, if any.

The liberal candidate won and we can thank Trump.  Clearly Canada were not happy with the liberals when Trudeau was ousted.  That all changed with the 51st State talk and tariffs and they moved away from the "Trumpy" candidate (not my word but something I heard on a podcast.

The podcast featured a Canadian today (who has an American father) and they are really mourning the loss of the relationship because they have a deep seated fondness of Americans.   There's a new kind of Canadia patriotism that they haven't seen before and it's of no benefit to the US to have harmed this relationship.

heron said:

Re "fear-stoking rhetoric" - just think of me as AN's very own canary. It's what radical thought is for, sociologically speaking. I very much hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

Who's the "they" using a "right wing European  word"? Me? Don't let it come as a shock to you, but white supremacists actually are right wing Europeans. And I use it because it's their own term and includes a whole lot more than mass deportation of "illegals".

 

My head isn't completely in the sound and hear the canary in the coal mine.  Trust me, I'm concerned (and expressed that in my post) and I do hope that what I consider rhetoric such as "ethnic cleansing" isn't going to happen.  

Your last paragraph won't be addressed by me because it doesn't make a lot of sense give the post you are quoting. 

nursej22 said:

Human trafficking is the act of recruiting, transporting, transferring, harboring, or receiving individuals through force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of exploitation.

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Sending immigrants to SECOT appears to be human trafficking. 

How are the illegal immigrants bring exploited?

Beerman said:

How are the illegal immigrants bring exploited?

By being displayed by Bukele and US officials in that video made on their arrival, and then used for photo ops for DHS "Barbie" and other US officials. And by essentially being sold to Bukele. 

ICE deported 3 children who are U.S. citizens, their families' lawyers say

Is this example of the fascist cruelty or is it evidence of the cruel incompetence of the racists?  

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"We have no idea what ICE was telling them, and in this case what has come to light is that ICE didn't give them another alternative,” Willis said in an interview. "They didn't gave them a choice, that these mothers only had the option to take their children with them despite loving caregivers being available in the United States to keep them here.”

 

The 4-year-old — who is suffering from a rare form of cancer — and the 7-year-old were deported to Honduras within a day of being arrested with their mother, Willis said.

It sounds like these were some of the dangerous illegal immigrant criminals that Trump promised to deport, right?