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Stop the preceptor madness!

I just counted 21 posts on the main page alone that were all NP students looking for preceptors. How long is this madness going to continue? Why are schools not providing preceptors for their students? My school finds all our preceptors for us, as it should be, and it was one of the requirements I had when choosing a program. If we stop applying to schools that won't find you your preceptor then they'll be forced to adapt! No professional should have to beg.

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    It's getting worse and worse as schools in it for the money realize that their biggest bottleneck is preceptors so the solution is to continue admitting students and put the burden on them. It is a shame.

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    All about the money. IMHO I can't understand how a school can ever be given or maintain accreditation when they literally throw their students to the wolves with finding preceptors.

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    The problem is that even the brick & mortar schools are now doing this.

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    Does this mean you want to be my preceptor?

    Just kidding.

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    It truly is getting out of hand. Allnurses should consider making a separate forum for this.

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    People would just use it to type, "I am loking fer precaptor in my area, but will reqwire u to werk hores i lik."

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    Do preceptors get paid anything for their services?

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    Do preceptors get paid anything for their services?

    Generally, no. There are "benefits" including reduced amount of CMEs for re-cert for some and free graduate/doctoral class credits.

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    In your experience, who awards the doctoral credits? Preceptor or preceptee's school?

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    I find it odd and unfair to nurses that want to be NPs. The other thing is that it is important to have someone train you with a certain amount of experience and who knows what they are doing. I feel people should be compensated for training and not have a full patient load in the beginning when they start training someone. Of course at some point as the training progresses the nurse will be expected to take a full patient load but the preceptor should not have to take on their regular full patient load while training in the beginning.

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    I also find it very suspect that so many students have zero professional NP or MD contacts. Both my NP programs provided preceptors but I elected to get my own so I knew they were excellent diagnosticians and prescribers. Lets face it there are a lot of lame providers and we emulate our teachers in many ways so I wanted to learn from someone I knew was good not a brand new NP from the last cohort as were many of the school arranged preceptors. Even outside of my specialty when I got my FNP all I did was ask a few colleagues, they made phone calls and very quickly I had amazing, vetted preceptors.

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    Traditional programs in my area require people to find their own preceptors if they cannot place them. Some also "fudge" hours too. One girl's peds' hours was in an urgent care and she openly admitted that she didn't just see peds patients...

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