RockMay

I'd like to suggest that prior to or considering becoming a PA you learn the correct name of the profession.

Majority of MSN to DNP programs require no additional clinicals whatsoever (as they do not provide additional skills, just additional busywork).

LOLnope!

My cynicism of NP education, practice, and existence is due to the complete lack of education, lack of preparation for practice practice, and insistence that the NP job should not exist as it clearly endangers patients.

You have an interesting albeit incorrect way of presenting information.

Correct. PAs have more education which is superior in depth and quality to that of NP education. Incorrect. The title is Physician Assistant. There is no possessive after physician. Incorrect. PAs obtain their own licenses from their state board of medicine. More like 85% physician.

All about the money. IMHO I can't understand how a school can ever be given or maintain accreditation when they literally throw their students to the wolves with finding preceptors.

They might require an "intro to organic chemistry" or "principals of organic chemistry" but those are not true orgo 1 and orgo 2 courses. Those of us who took actual orgo 1 and 2 look on those baby courses are complete fluff.

How many NP programs require two semesters of orgo chem?

How many NPs took Orgo Chem 1 and 2? How many who tried actually passed?

It's a story I personally know and there is no link. The case was settled out of court as most malpractice cases are. You speak about a hope to "improve NP education" but you fail to see that the standards are so extremely deficient that NPs are placing patients lives in danger due to their legislative gains and along with what their accreditation lacks.

I personally know a recent horror story of an NP who went to an all online NP program who killed a patient by failing to recognize this patient was having an MI. She was working in the ED "fast track" and diagnosed this patient with "chest wall strain". During a deposition before the trial date the NP admitted her online NP program did not have any training in emergency medicine and she was not required to do any sort of ER training as part of her NP education. Six hours after diagnosing the patient with chest wall strain and telling him to use ibuprofen he returned to the ER in full cardiac arrest and died. All PAs are required to do a five week internship in an ER as part and parcel of their training. Any PA program failing to provide this training and education would lose their accreditation, yet for NP programs it's completely optional. If PAs have more training than NPs then it makes sense that PAs should have more legal abilities than NPs yet PAs don't and NPs do. Somehow the nursing lobby has duped state legislators around the country into passing laws enabling their reckless practice of "advanced nursing". In order to improve patient safety all NPs must have their DEA numbers frozen and ability to prescribe immediately halted.

There are no online PA programs. Not one single PA program exists which takes someone who is not a PA and able to educate them to become a PA. What does exist are online programs which take existing PAs already in practice and allows them to earn a masters degree, but not a single one of those enable someone who is not a PA to become a PA. Summing up: Online PA program=does not exist Online program enabling PAs to earn a masters degree=does exist

This is absolutely horrifying. 4 case studies in pediatrics and yet this person is somehow legally allowed to be an independent practitioner? Contrast this to the family medicine physician who has to do three years of training after graduation from medical school before they're allowed to be independent. Horrifying. OP, tell me where you work so I know to never bring my kids there!

Two competing organizations which claim to be "the" certification for FNPs is extremely absurd!