sextuplets

Dad may have nerve asking for this, but in the end, it's going to happen. I doubt a father of 6 is going to honor this obligation. Good Sam probably knew it going in.

No doubt.

Reminds me of IVF quads we had. Toward the end, when reality set in, the parents were all in a panic because they had no money for formula and diapers. We got them on WIC and food stamps, then they went begging at church for everything else.

I love children. I'd have a dozen...if I could afford it! Bottom line, I can only afford to have as many as I have now and without assistance.You really gotta think ahead to the "what if's" and beyond the warm fuzzy of carrying a child.

Mercy, you are undoubtedly right, but what a slap in the face to patients and parents who DO meet their financial obligations.

I think that everytime I see my insurance was billed $300 for my son to be on a POX for an ER visit. I'm paying for those that didn't.

I just don't get it. These women get so obsessed with having a baby they will put themselves and the baby at so much risk.

Especially when there are so many children in foster care and needing good homes.

It is okay to not have a child, you are not less of a woman if you don't pass something through your cervix. A life can be "full" without a baby. Volunteer, get a job, start an activity, your life can be so well rounded even if you gut isn't. hahha

The one mother is only 24, what the h**l are you taking these powerful drugs for.

( can you tell I don't have kids)

( can you tell I don't have kids)

Yes, I can actually.

The MN 22wker family lost a second baby on Thursday night.

OK, those 22 wkrs are 99.9% likely to have serious problems, according to the neos I work with.

If she is so willing to take on 6 kids with trachs, ROP, g-tubes, CP, etc, then why not adopt one of the MANY MANY foster children out there who have these exact problems and no one to love them. Save yourself the initial hospital bills. Plus, you wont pee your pants every time you sneeze/laugh at the age of 30..... and with 6 kiddos using your uterus as a hammock, you will need a bladder tack after the c/s. You can do keigels al day long..... but not gonna help!

Harsh, I know. Have seen 3 IVF pregnancies (2 sets of twins where only one made it) in the last 6 months that turned out exactly like this.... just breaks my heart to see others who were born to crack moms and go to foster care when there are people qho are willing to go to such extremes and have the same outcome. If you are so willing to care for a child with severe disabilities and go to extreme measures with such a high risk, then why not find one who has already been born and needs a loving home?

I also do not have children... sure everyone can tell, but I believe strongly in adoption.

Pragmatic news coverage of the Masche case from Az, instead of the glowing, bubbling, and ignorant type:

Babies should come in ones, not in sixes

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/frontpage/54706.php

:yeahthat: That's exactly my opinion.

Even though I think it is irresponsible of doctors and parents to take the chance of having multiples (assuming parents are adequately informed of the risk they are taking; you have to wonder about that sometimes), I don't think there is any comparison between having your own child with special needs and your capacity to take in foster children with the same type of challenges. I think it is wonderful that there are people who are able to open their hearts and homes to children who are not their own, but for most people, it isn't an apt comparison.

I don't think there is any comparison between having your own child with special needs and your capacity to take in foster children with the same type of challenges.

I understand what you're saying teapot. I would compare that such that I don't think I could take in a handicapped child. Not that I wouldn't want to but I know that I'm not cut out for such a challenge, however, if one of my children had been born handicapped I would gladly take on that challenge out of love for my own child. Here I see that there is no comparison.

I think what the poster meant is that if the parents can be selfish enough to have 6 babies knowing they'll likely all have special needs then why can't they be unselfish enough to take in children already in this world who need someone to love them rather than create more.

It's a difficult and really sad situation. The children are the victims.

Acute heart failure following a multiples delivery isn't common, but it does happen due to the extra blood volume required.

It is rather easy to remedy and should not be blown out of proportion assuming that the mother is otherwise healthy.

But this is not to say that I agree with implanting 6 embryos. Just because the technology is there, doesn't mean that we should use it.

Maybe we shouldn't implant 6 embryos until we can assure that medical technology can adequately care for 22 weekers AND provide acceptable outcomes.

Acute heart failure following a multiples delivery isn't common, but it does happen due to the extra blood volume required.

It is rather easy to remedy and should not be blown out of proportion assuming that the mother is otherwise healthy.

I read an article that stated her ejection fraction was only 20%. Not a cardiac nurse, but that sounds pretty serious to me, and perhaps not so easy to remedy. I am glad that the mother's complications have made the headlines in this case. I certainly don't wish her ill health, but do believe that it is time that the public is made aware of the tremendous physical risks a high-order multiple pregnancy may pose to the mother's health. I remember a mother pregnant with quads who experienced HELLP syndrome at 16 weeks. The potential for liver failure was huge. Fortunately, she improved with intensive treatment. I can't imagine having to make a decision to terminate a badly-wanted pregnancy over life threatening maternal complications, or risking mom's life to carry a multiple pregnancy. How in the world would these fathers manage if the mothers died?

I really think there should be some sort of law against inseminating when more than 3 follicles are seen. It sounds like the Arizona sextuplets at over 3 pounds each (except one) are going to be fine but the Mom is in critical condition with heart failure. So 6 babies, perhaps without their mother.

The Minnesota sextuplets were born at only 22 weeks. Not much likelihood of them all surviving. Those that do will surely suffer severe physical handicaps.

I just don't understand all the happiness in this. They said they are God's gift to them. Not really, God gives us babies one, two, or three at a time and rarely more. When you give birth to a litter of children that "blessing" has been forced into the woman's uterus and in my opinion, totally selfish. I agree that I could not go along with selective reduction once pregnant with six but why six in the first place. What's wrong with one or two at a time?

Completely agree with you on the idea a littler of childern (all at ounce) as being a "blessing." A blessing does not involve the intervention of Men. Neither is it a "mircale". This topic came up in my class-Motherhood and Childbearing just this pass thursday. It is unfortunate that some couples cannot produce a child as our bodies are intended to (for whatever reason). Fertility Doc's should use better judgement like the medical professional that they are suppose to be. Its not fair to those babies. They deserve a better start into this world, they are at risk for many developmental delays and medical problems that could be avoided if some adults just stop trying to be "greedy" (in my opinion)

I'm not being insensitive about the infertility situation because a child's innocents can bring joy to our lives. And if i had the money and was faced with that problem I would problely go that route without "overdoing it". IVF that is not the only option.