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rules rules rules!!!and bad ones!

I am just starting LPN school in July and then will bridge. I was reading the admittance requirements for the rn program and was actually a little put off. I am guessing that they have a legitimate, valid reason that they do things the way they do. However, I noticed that the entrance process for the school does, in my opinion, suck! One of the major things that is ticking me off is that people who flunk out of the program are put back before new students are accepted. People work SO HARD for those grades, the 3.9's and 4.0s just to get it, and then they are denied because someone who flunked out gets another immediate shot. I got RIGHT IN to LPN school but the program isnt as competitive as the RN program, I am just kind of dreading it. If I don't do well, it's my fault and I would totally understand waiting behind someone. But If excel then I still have to wait for the people who flunked to finish?:no: Any other programs like this?

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One of the things that was the most difficult for me to deal with when I started nursing school was not the school work it was figuring out the politics. How the game is played and playing it to their rules is crucial, imo. Based on your different vent posts so far it seems that you are learning about this before you even get started but it is important that your attitude is positive when dealing with "the powers that be". All I can really say is suck it up, get through the LPN program before worrying about the RN bridge and do what they want because I really didn't find any other way that was successful. If I had a dime for everytime I muttered "it is what it is" we could go for coffee.

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exactly. i do the same thing. "it is what it is". and i if i got a dime for every time ive said that in the last year. id have those diamond earrings ive been lusting after

and to quote my eng 101 teacher. " you cant beat the game until you can play the game."

and besides, in the end, its not about the politics. its about you accomplishing your dreams and goals in life. its not about them. we play the game because it benefits us. theres a lot of politics everywhere you go, work, school and family. keep your eyes on the prize. becuase thats all that matters

Relax and don't put the horse before the cart. It's not like you've been denied entrance to the bridge program because of the school's policy. You haven't even started your LPN program yet! Focus on making the best grades you can as a PN student and trust me their WILL be a program for you when you graduate if you want it badly enough.

That rule seems fair to me that a student that has worked hard to get into RN school is given an immediate chance to go back in as if they had to wait chances are they would not come back at all causing a loss of the time and resources the school spend to educate that student up until that point.

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I am not worried about not getting into RN school. I know I will get in,even if there is a wait, thats not the issue. I live in a very small area and these schools and school systems are just messed up. I am not usually a complainer actually, I just get sick of the way things are done where I live. And besides, if I cant vent to the people who are going through or have gone through the same things then maybe I shouldn't post about things that bother me right?

Sorry, it wasn't my intention to make you feel bad for venting. I just think that you will be so busy once you start LPN school you won't even be able to think about what comes next.

I am just starting LPN school in July and then will bridge. I was reading the admittance requirements for the rn program and was actually a little put off. I am guessing that they have a legitimate, valid reason that they do things the way they do. However, I noticed that the entrance process for the school does, in my opinion, suck! One of the major things that is ticking me off is that people who flunk out of the program are put back before new students are accepted. People work SO HARD for those grades, the 3.9's and 4.0s just to get it, and then they are denied because someone who flunked out gets another immediate shot. I got RIGHT IN to LPN school but the program isnt as competitive as the RN program, I am just kind of dreading it. If I don't do well, it's my fault and I would totally understand waiting behind someone. But If excel then I still have to wait for the people who flunked to finish?:no: Any other programs like this?

imagine you were in the position of being pushed back (if you were halfway through the program) you'd appreciate to be placed back in before new students. They also worked hard to get in. Plus, if you're recycled, so to speak, you could be put ahead to where you had failed and make progress a bit faster than a new student... if that's clear.

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I am sure you are right about being busy :)

In our RN program, those that fail can try again, but might have to wait up to a year to get back in. They end up joining back in with the bridging students. If you fail again you are out. Acceptance is based on a point system, both new students and bridging students. I'm not sure how they figure in the failing students...I would suspect it also a point sytem. Unfortunately for those bridging or returning after failing, we have to bet on those that fail or drop out the first semester to determine how many seats are available..kind of sucks.

Once you're in the program, I think you may have a different view...

The intensity of material covered in the RN bridge program is extensive, and even after spending 40+ hours studying per week (that doesn't include classroom time), many students barely get by with a passing grade. It's not from lack of trying for most, it is the difficulty level. The ones who slack and get tossed right away are not the ones who will be rejoining the class at a later date, but the ones who have worked, struggled and still didn't quite make it will be the ones coming back, and I, for one, think they should be allowed the opportunity to continue. We had students who made it all the way to the final and failed the class by a couple of points. These are the ones who will work feverishly to complete the program. These classes are not like your typical pre-reqs, but they have a higher grade required to pass (75%). I believe if someone works hard and ends up getting a 74%, they should be allowed back in.

Like others have said, I would focus on getting through your LPN program and then decide about the bridge. I can tell you that the LPN classes are nowhere the difficulty level you will encounter in the RN program. You may have a new respect for the hard work that people put into it.

Just my :twocents:

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tbanurse,

Excuse me but I don't have a lack of respect for anyone in the RN program. Its just the opposite actually. It sounds like you have a lack of respect for LPN programs. My comments are about people who "party it up" and then show up at school, bail out on classes, etc., Not those who work hard and are points behind. And I don't appreciate you telling me where to direct my attention. I have already made my decision about becoming an RN so you can leave out the career counseling along with your snide remarks. Here's your :twocents:.

I'm sorry you have taken my post so personally, or interpreted my comments as "snide," that's not at all how I intended it to come across. I have spent the last 9 years as an LVN and I am very proud of the time that I have been able to provide care for my patients and their families, so no, I don't disrespect LVNs or the programs. The experience I have gained as an LVN has been invaluable and it helped me more than you would ever know when I was completing my bridge program. Those individuals who spend their time partying and wasting everyone else's time in class should not be allowed to continue--we can agree on that point. I, like many LVNs, believed that the RN bridge could not be much different than the LVN program, just more material. The truth is, though, it is very different, as you will find if you browse through the LVN-RN student forum. It IS more difficult to get through the bridge. The thought process is different--critical thinking at its best. People who had completed the bridge before me told me the same thing, and of course I didn't believe them either. It was only during the program I realized how right they were. I hope you do well in the LVN program and the RN program, too. I believe that anyone who follows their heart in the calling to be a nurse will find a way to get through, no matter what hurdles are placed in front of them.

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