john83

We all wish that they would be required but they aren't. It's all part of bad legislation. If schools can get away with it, they would.

If you ask me personally, I think no school should ever offer a program to the public that isn't CCNE accredited since it is required by most if not all. I find it atrocious to be wasting the time, effort, and money of people who trusted you. You must have felt betrayed but at least they make this known and let you gamble at your own risk. If the post master was offered in 2022, it's now 2024 and they still don't have CCNE accreditation for the post masters program, wouldn't you worry and wonder what the heck is going on? They are demanding on their students to get everything done on time but the students cannot demand that they get CCNE accredited yesterday? What is that all about?

They should be rushing by now to get the post master accredited before January 2026. If they will instead wait at the next program cycle then they would have screwed their current students with this announcement from ANCC below: **IMPORTANT ELIGIBILITY CHANGE POSTED MARCH 2023 Starting January 1, 2026, for post-graduate certificate (PGC) applicants, onlyPGC APRN program accreditation will be accepted for eligibility. Accreditation for APRN master's or DNP programs will not be considered in leu of PGC accreditation, even if those programs contain parallel tracks to an instution's PGC program. Applicants must demonstrate their program held/holds an active PGC accreditation at the time of graduation. source: https://www.nursingworld.org/certification/faqs/?certcode=FNP

This is probably why you don't see a lot of reviews about this school, people would rather not say the bad things about them. Yes, you get what you pay for. It's an extremely challenging program, as previously mentioned, the professors are paid by their title not what they can offer you or they would have already been removed through poor student evaluation. In person schools are more challenging to find these days given that there are so many online schools but I would rather go to traditional in person classes for all courses. If pure nerdy like intensity defines you, then this online program from USU would suit you well but if not, go somewhere else. Being in this school will make you want to wish that you are in full time study and not working at all given the demands, the intensity and the lack of any human flexibility, after all it's a for profit school which is not so obvious.

TX board will also not issue license without the US SSN. I have a friend who directly applied for licensure by exam, when she passed the test,she didn't get the license because she doesn't have ssn. Like CA, they also require it.

Okay, thanks for the information.

Thanks, it's very informative.

Indeed, you are absolutely correct. Yes, right. Thanks for presenting your view and I agree with it. I just hope that in the near future, SSA could address this one, I mean, giving what they lack to get the license, the US social security number. Having a license number is very important for nurses, I hope someday all boards will issue the RN license to those who are qualified.

This particular statement is what I find most interesting... Has anyone tried to contact the US social security with this source? I would really be interested to hear of the results... Maybe they could provide an SSN number that does not have work authorization, just for the purpose of completing the licensure process. ITIN does not interest me, as I am against the use of it too because SSN is required not ITIN. I know of a particular agency here in the Philippines that charges a huge fee for such an otiose service of gaining license through the ITIN instead of the SSN.

Congratulations! That hospital is near our province, I mean it's nearer than Manila from where I'm at. I wonder what are the chances of getting hired in that facility and I'm wondering if they are hiring nurses there right now...Hope many other hospitals here in the Philippines would also apply for the JCI accreditation... By the way, I first learned of this news when I read a newspaper that's distributed nationwide...I find the female physician in her white coat cute, very pretty...:heartbeat I wonder what her complete name is or if you know her...:icon_rollPlease PM me of your response.:typing Highly appreciated.:cheers: Thank you.:redpinkhe

page 19 there in that document is very interesting...

You may not fully understand how or why we Filipinos would react to such, as you were not exposed to the kind of difficulties we have here in the Philippines. After all these horrible things that are happening there in K.S.A. , they'd require it now. It used to be quickest path to earn to help families economically(than staying here in the Philippines and working as a nurse). It's another closed avenue then for the majority of Filipino nurses... Actually, for me, it would work well, because through that, we can somehow discourage Christians from going into a place where they cannot practice their religion(sacrificing faith for money). Sorry, wrong statement, I was being too emotional with what happened to that Filipino who got whipped due to the practice of faith...Good riddance to KSA as an option for nurses! May KSA also require IELTS soon... I have changed my view and consider it as the BEST move of the century by the Saudi Arabian government and their ministry of health. Yes, you are right, a nation should safeguard its citizen at all costs.

To add insult to injury: http://www.ofwguide.com/article_item-1239/Filipino-Nurses-Bound-To-Saudi-Arabia-To-Take-Prometric-Exam.html

Here's an interesting link : https://www.ncsbn.org/08_Manual_for_International_nurses.pdf

ANSAP training for IV certification/license is limited, by that I mean that not all of the nurses in the country can apply for the training especially if they are away from Manila. Here in Bacolod, I haven't heard of any upcoming or scheduled training, since I became a nurse. That is why, I'd favor the change into a federal form of government for the Philippines, so that islands like Negros Occidental can stand on its own. Like in the US, each state has its own board of nursing; it'd prefer that here too. I don't know if they'd empower us really, the nurses from the province without even going to Manila...

I'm sorry to hear about this, and personally and I am saddened by this "inequality/bias" among employers...I have nothing against the female counterpart, however, I feel as is there is some sort of discrimination worldwide among hiring firms these days...They seem to prefer women over men, giving men fewer chances of landing a job or even just getting an experience of the job. Making this a catch-22 scenario for males who have dreams/goal of raising their family. Locally in the Philippines, I would suggest that we males unite and suggest that congressmen/senators draft a bill that will protect the male population from such bias, even at the home country. Wherein there should be an equal proportion of male employees to female employees in a particular company, or something like that. I pray for you and I share the sentiment that you have...You are not alone.

Since CHED has not issued any guidelines or did any branch of the government issue IPR(implementing rules and regulations), the details of these degrees vary from school to school. Some schools who do not offer MN, just have MAN and MSN, with the former being the shorter(and lesser in units/subjects to earn the degree). Some have the MN and MAN, with the latter bearing the longer time to finish(more units to earn the degree). Some have the MN program as the non-thesis, while the MAN as the one with the thesis. Some schools even have MN degrees that have thesis in their program. I think it's a matter of preference on the part of the school, which degree to offer...So far, I have not seen a particular school in the Philippines that offers all three degrees altogether...They just make a choice. If given a choice, I'd go for one that bears the MSN degree, because for me personally, it's the one that clearly indicates your advancement from the BS to the MS degree.

I'm not sure if we have "TRUE" online programs here, but from the looks of it, we still have a long way to go...I don't think it's going to be implemented here in the near future...We are way behind the USA in almost all aspects, including distance/online learning... Probably these schools are not 100% online, we don't have that capability yet. Why get in the the Philippines when you can get it elsewhere, especially in the USA?

This bank draft/demand draft issue has been in existence for quite a long time now in RP banks where a client would seem to have no option or nowhere to go unless he/she is really rich and can afford to open an account. If I were a bank, I'd deal on this problem and be the first to address this concern. I'm sure many will gladly pay for this service, especially if you offer it at a low rate...Can you just imagine that even if it's a little amount but if you monopolize it...Banks, just consider the nursing population nowadays...It's like refusing profit...

It's due to this discrimination in scores why USA had to do away with numbers...I hope RP will also implement a PASS/FAIL type of result in the near future...

One can work as a nurse in various settings; can you just imagine a world if all nurses could only/should only work in the hospital? Hehe, of course the institution where you are applying can demand what kind of experience they'd want. It's usually matched with one that is related to the hiring institution (e.g. hospital experience for hospital jobs overseas) because they'd expect some level of confidence in you, being a foreign, non-native worker.

Personally I don't see any problem on people going up on the degree ladder, especially if they can make it. Why restrict them? Isn't the objective of education to gain knowledge to become more prepared? Graduate school training also have their own practicum. Experience and formal education aren't always equal; one can not simply become a nurse by knowing or simulating or practicing the things that are being done by nurses, you need to pass what is required to be qualified as a nurse. Basically, schools have their own way on what they'd require for graduate school. If pursuing graduate school education is the way to have better chances in getting the job that you want, why prevent them? Graduate school education maybe a qualification for teachers but schools can't simply hire people from that, it will be their own prerogative and I believe they have their own right to choose whom to hire. If you are a school and you do not have profits, how will you survive? Well, unless you are subsidized by the government, I don't think you can...It's just plain business, the way I see it. Indeed it is better to be studying in school, doing research, updates rather being idle. With the situation in the RP now, it's survival of the fittest. God bless everyone!

I saw some typographical errors in my post above, however, I can not see the "edit" button. Anyway, yes, look at this: http://www.usbc.org/usbc/election2008/newsitems/obamapromise.htm

Even the UN is powerless. Prudence should be present in the heart of the person, if ever we are to change the world.

I believe the congress(senate and house) are still be the ones who should really push for these proposed changes in the visa availability, if ever they are to favor LEGAL immigrants. The president signs bills into laws, but basically, to a major extent, the ones responsible would still be congress. I believe the president now will have the dilemma regarding two important issues...Speeding up legal immigration and/or giving the illegal immigrants a chance...Whatever the president and/or congress decides on will have an effect/consequence which might not be instantly be clear or appear. Tough decision, but if I were to decide, I'd favor those who waited in line, who did it the right way, the first time.