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Not if the hospital is a union hospital. Also I have never heard of hospitals paying less based on previous pay. Your current market dictates pay more than anything else as a staff nurse. Executive pay is a little different.

Hi HouTX! Can you please qualify the above. I live/work/play in a major city and the starting salary for an entry management position is about 110-118k. There's no chance for overtime unless you ascertain a second job which is very difficult since you're always responsible for your managing unit. Furthermore, to move up the proverbial ladder one need to continue w/ education. That is, after one's initial MSN, they now need a MBA and maybe even a PhD. Thus not only is one's salary much lower than that of a CRNA but now the education requirement is seemingly greater. However my perspective is from an outsider looking in, so please feel free to clarify or enlighten.

Cali can you please share your age. Are you an older student or are you super young like the op? Thanks for your input btw

This question will be better served on SDN. A few points: 1) I personally would only work part-time while you complete your pre-med requirements. The general requirements are definitely doable but will require a lot of energy especially when you factor in labs. I would also use that extra time to engage in extracurricular activities to boost your CV and secure solid LORs. 2) Do not take your pre-reqs from a community college. Take them at a a 4-year college, period. 3) Study like hell for the MCAT. Although you may feel like you are not prepared or ready to start tackling MCAT-like questions, start tackling them as you complete your prereqs. Don't wait. 4) I would avoid telling your nursing colleagues that you plan on pursuing medicine, they just won't get it, and you may be shunned for it. Do not think people will think you are "smart." 5) Have a REALISTIC plan. I wouldn't rush to take your prereqs just so you can apply. A realistic plan would be 2 years+, especially since you are working. 6) Google postbac premed programs, they may interest you. Some medical schools give you preference if you do well in reputable programs Lastly, good luck :)

I work at a very prestigious hospital. This hospital regularly hires MHA/MBA graduates as clinical managers and directors with no clinical experience whatsoever (unless you count the administration fellowship/residency our hospital sponsors). The reason I was given by an executive was that nurses who move up the corporate ladder have too much loyalty to the clinical staff and that causes "issues" in meetings. The person would not go into detail.

You honestly need to relax, you sound like a complete nut job. People's life experiences shape their beliefs, hence why people vote for different candidates. If you feel like Bernie and Hillary are not the candidates for you, then that is absolutely your prerogative, but please save the faux outrage just because other people's views do not align with yours.

This "study" will never take place, nursing organizations are too busy researching how nursing can be the most trusted profession for the 100th time in a row.

HouTX gave you some really good advice. It seems like you want your cake and eat it too. It's a myth that you can have a 'perfect career' and a "perfect" life. It seems that you are approaching an age where many women start questioning their decisions, especially if they haven't gotten married or had kids. You are not unique in doing so. You have to make a decision, and pick one that you want to focus on. Do you want to apply to CRNA school ASAP or move back to the area that you are from so you can start doing the things you enjoy again, and forging relationships. You are right, that if you pick the latter you may have an issue with getting an LOR for school from your current employer, but that is a decision that you will need to make. Management isn't a terrible career track idea, but you are right in that it is very political. For the sake of rambling, everything in life requires hard work and sacrifice, including relationships. If you you choose to move back home and focus on that, then that is fine too. Indeed, pursuing management may be better for your future relationships because it is more flexible than the CRNA track, at least initially. Let us know what you decide.

I am going to answer that question with a resounding no.

Why aren't you pursuing medicine? Btw if you do decide to pursue nursing definitely go for the BSN for all the reasons mentioned. CRNA 4 Years of College > 1-2 years ICU experience (assuming you can even get an ICU job right after college)> 2-3 years of CRNA school = CRNA (7 years absolute minimum but will most likely take you 9-10 years). 7 years later you will still be "just a nurse" (no offense). Although you will be highly skilled many misanthropes will remind you of "your place," and you will have to do a lot of pride swallowing. Anyone who disagrees with me is not keeping it real, I assure you. Sure CRNAs can work independently but most do not. Just like most NPs don't work independently. An MDA will likely be your boss as a CRNA and depending on the culture of the facility this can be an "okay" thing or a "really bad" thing. Medicine 4 years of college> 4 years of medical school > 3-5 years of residency/fellowships = MD (aka "the boss"). For 1-2 years more of your life you can seriously enjoy a greater diversity of experience and a more rewarding and lucrative career. The above is not to spark a nurse vs physician debate. These are my feelings, one that I wholly believe to be true, and one I wish was advertised before I decided to pursue nursing. If you do decide to pursue nursing, because it is more flexible and less stressful than pursuing medicine, than that is fine and I wish you well in your studies. Many people find nursing to be a rewarding career even though they have to endure A LOT for the paycheck, CRNAs included. If you still want to pursue nursing, I would try to get an externship in the ICU or work as a tech in the ICU, so you can get a position there as soon as you graduate.

Wow, I recently started a new HH gig. The job is prn, I have never done HH before, as all my experience is in acute care. I received three days (8-5) of field orientation and another day to complete a series of HR videos and HLCs. My director seems pretty cool and seems willing to answer any questions that may come my way. I'll keep you guys posted. Monday will be my first day on my own. The biggest thing about HH is the paperwork. There seems to be a different form for every visit.

I listen to public radio A LOT. Last week they had a discussion on Uber. A man actually called the show and commented on the fact that he knew several people who did the same exact thing you proposed above, and apparently they were doing very well because wheelchair-accessible vehicles are difficult to hail in NYC. I think your plan is a good one, but one that is becoming increasingly popular in this new "gig economy" where the common people are attempting to set their own rules. My advice is to keep your overhead very low and minimize your risks. I too am considering a side business that can potentially develop into something that is full-time. Nursing is brutal.

Too many to list. Simply Google "lateral violence nursing," and you will have the answer that you seek.

Really?

Well I guess we are in agreement then. I think the OP case is very obvious and whatever she signed is not a contract, But my post was for others who have signed similar contracts under more favorable conditions. The wording on these documents must be so ripe for these contracts to be enforceable that IMHO most hospital residency contracts WILL NOT PASS THAT MUSTER. That is my whole point. Sure they CAN BE enforceable but based on case review they will not be. Also I don't think the slavery reference is hyperbolic at all, like I said some courts have used the term "indentured servant" to refer to employees who basically have no choice but to work for their employer because leaving would be so prohibitively expensive. While I encourage new grads to read anything before they sign it, when acute care contracts are becoming more prevalent, what realistic option does the new grad have? I despise these contracts because they seem to me more punitive in nature rather than an honest hospitable trying to recoup an unforeseeable expense. If hospitals want employees to stay they should create favorable conditions, writing a few words on a document and having someone who is desperate for a job sign it is unconscionable and illegal MORE OFTEN than not.