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JHU is ungodly expensive, add the commute to and from, as well as to the clinical sites + parking for both and tuition is just the tip of the iceberg. Wait it out and apply to UMB @ SG.

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I'll sell you all my stuff, and give you my scrubs and lab coat too (as long as youre a size medium). I decided halfway thru my first semester that nursing wasn't for me (left with A's and B's so its not like I flunked out, just didn't like it as much as I hoped), so with the exception of a few pages in the lab manual being filled out everything is in great condition. Email me to set up a when and where.

The wait takes forever, but they are just as eager to tell you as you are to find out. That being said, when you guys find out I have books and gear to sell. After breezing thru and enjoying my pre-reqs I found that Nursing wasn't my thing, so I have a full set of barely used books for anyone in MoCo. Oh, one last thing, if you are applying to Shady Grove be sure to apply to the site specific scholarships that can be found on the USG website (I'd link but I'm on a phone w/o cut and paste, so just google USG Rockville and browse the home page for the scholarship app, it takes 30 minutes to do and they have a lot of scholarships (a few of my classmates and I got 2,500 scholarships, but there are scholarships from 200-full tuition and fees).

It's not a survive or not kind of thing. Don't psyche yourself out. Don't get me wrong, it's difficult, but very doable (I am putting in the same effort that got me A's in pre reqs and getting high B's at UMFC, but my more studious classmates are pulling down solid A's (it's not called UMB anymore, either UM if talking about everything or UMFC if just talking about edu)). As far as books go, you are unlikely going to get anything out of us other than patho pharm, and even that's a maybe as we use the books in other courses.

Really focus on your 4 sciences. Those are the most imp. classes. Exactly how they view a failed class, req or not, is up in the air. I say take this event and run with it, pull all A's from here on in so that it's on admissions shoulders and not yours (plus you might as well learn how to put in alot of effort when the classes aren't so bad). The GNA is definitely a plus!

And if communism is so great why has it never been implemented??? Without the promise of greatness, where does the motivation to be great come from? Why would doctors and engineers work so damn hard to get a degree if they would get paid the same as CNA's and Day Laborers?

To all those that complain that school should be free: just look at how much money is wasted on Pell grants that never result in a degree. And even if school was free, there is still the cost of room, board, and books (not to mention transportation, entertainment and clothes). I'm getting by w/o loans or grants. All of school is being paid for by merit scholarships, room, board, books, fees, tuition, transportation, supplies, and spending money (even got a little extra to buy a computer to replace my aging POS. Not saying everyone can do this, but a little hard work can go a long way. And forgiveness, ha! You signed that dotted line, you drank the kool-aid.

Thanks for all your input. After much internal conflict I have decided to accept the additional funds and use them to pay for "wants," namely a new computer that my other scholarships wouldn't have covered. Well that and to pay taxes and social security fees on what I have been given beyond the cost of books tuition and fees. Thanks again for helping me with this one.

I should clarify.Let's say the merit based scholarships were all received legitimately, and that the first 3 paid for the complete cost of going to school, tuition and fees covered, as well as a sizable monthly stipend, also include another 10k in scholarship funds to be used as needed over the next two years (all told the first 3 scholarships meet the entriety of your need, sans a new computer which you'd like to have, but don't really need). In this situation, what would you do?

Just a question. No malice around it, nor is it a class assignment. Just me wanting to know what you would do if you were given one more partial scholarship than you needed. Would you accept it and give it to a classmate? Would you buy your program new equipment? Would you buy new gear for yourself to replace worn out items? Would you fund a community outreach program? Would you pocket it? Would you do something completely different? Thanks for taking the time to share, now that I am in NS I understand how valuable time really is.

You might want to worry a lil' bit, GPA alone doesn't get you into Maryland. You really got to bring it all: GPA, LOR, TEAS, volunteer work, and a well edited personal statement. My application GPA was well over a 3.8 and I feel that my GPA helped me make the first cut, but it was my overall package that got me into school, and seeing how amazing my classmates are, I am certain that Marylands goal is to fill their cohorts with students that are not just smart, but motivated and uniquely amazing. Just my sappy 2 cents. Good luck in the admissions process, it is one heck of a wait.

An ADN isn't always cheaper. There are boatloads of for profits on both sides of the 2 year vs 4 year entry to practice debate. Additionally your public and prestigious private universities have more money to throw around to attract qualified and desirable applicants than a community college does (there are also more private scholarships available to 4 year students (to include transfer students than there is for students continuing on in Jr College). If I went to the local CC, I would be paying a third of what the local Uni costs, but because of scholarships the state Uni is free (actually scholarships are effictively paying me to go to Uni),so cost savings isn't always an universal factor in the 2 vs 4 year debate. Just my 2-cent euro.

I can't believe anyone would pay to learn path, or to work 12 hour clinicals. Now on a more serious note 40k a year is alot, but if it means that much to someone what is it for us to judge (personally I think it is a much better idea to get the grades to apply to competition based programs, but not everyone can swing that, and i am sure there have been alot of great nurses that finished the pre reqs below a 3.0).

I think it is unprofessional. Do you see Dr.s, or PharmD's, or Lawyers wearing such things. Nope. But you do see rappers and wannabe thugs sporting their bling. By trying to show your peers that you are better than them because you have your BSN you are making yourself , and likely the other nurses in your hospital (GBA) look less than professional in the patients eyes.

Dang newguy (or newgirl) already challenging facts Usually I would just tell someone to do their own research on something like this (to boost your google-Fu and research skills) but I am including it for this topic as I am passionate about minimizing the cost of edu, and taking edu very seriously). http://www.ifap.ed.gov/sfahandbooks/attachments/0304Vol3MasterFile.pdf It's wordy, but the is the end all for Pell.

It really depends on the contract. I am under scholarship contract and if I am not hired the scholarship is gifted to me, even then I much rather have the job than that forgiveness (esp since my contract is at the best hospital in the Area, and I don't plan on applying anywhere else). Personally I wouldnt sign a contract that didn't forgive the scholarship if I wasn't hired after passing my NCLEX. As far as the OP having a job in the pocket, well that is also instution dependent. Due in part to what I said above, as well as the fact that the scholarship interview included all the staff and questions that would come with a job interview. One last thing, remember that we live in a very large country, this is something that a lot of posters here on AN tend to forget. Just because your region is under a certain pressure doesn't mean that pressure is uniform across the Nation. This is especially troubling when someone is being a Debbie downer. Alot of new, or uniformed users believe exactly what is posted in here, so please for the sake of their hope be your own editor.

Alright, my school is in the top ten!!! But like people before me said, the rankings are based on whatever they want to be based on, however I do notice a trend that schools with large intradiciplinary professional school are in the high ranking lists. I'd go to my school even if it wasn't ranked in the top ten on livestrong.com, it's cheap, it's close and it accepted me. I would have gone to a different school in the top ten(JHU) but could not justify the extra tens of thousands of dollars of expense for an undergrad. Rankings are nice to know, and I'll be sure to point out to hiring managers how great my program is, but when it comes down to it the most important thing about nursing students is the value of the school. It's all personal. If lil Susie wants to go to a for-profit for a 120,000 dollar BSN and thinks it's a good idea than that's her #1 and no report is going to convince her to go up to Washington for school. Meanwhile if lil Johnny is taking classes at a community college within a stones throw of JHU, and his program has near equal grad and NCLEX pass rates, similar clinical exp and at 1/10th the cost do you think he cares that JHU is ranked 4th and his school is unranked? Sorry for the rant. I am kind of a Hipocrate as I do think there is value in a name, just not when the values are derived from top ten lists that are designed to maximize Internet traffic.

My first two years I used the GI Bill. Having busted my butt to get grades that would all but assure a spot in a merit based acceptance NS. With those grades, I decided to apply for any large scholarship that fit my demographic (27 y/o white male with a EFC too high for Grants but way below COA), and now that the dust has mostly settled I have enough aid that I am getting paid to go to school (and I am still waiting to hear back from 2 more scholarships). Some scholarships you really have to dig for (one of mine is from a local hospital that has a work commitment attached that few people know about, another one thru my school has a short application that students generally don't want to waste their time filling out, so much so that the school pushed back the deadline to get more applicants...). There is money out there for everyone, so I urge you to apply for all scholarships you qualify for. Minimum awards are typically $500, and once you have a decent generic essay (I reused mine in everything) the apps take about 30 min to fill out. That's 1000/HR if you apply for scholarships that are a good match, if you have another way to make that kinda scratch let me know. And if you grab bigger scholarships the payoff is even higher. The alternative, student loans, are much easier to get. You just sign at the bottom line that you are accepting a loan that will be with you until you pay it off or die, no bankruptcy on knowledge. I guess that when the alt to a $500 scholarship is a $500 loan, you are really getting closer to 1332.25 an hour after factoring in interest @6% for 10 years.

What I am saying is that you have to shell out 23k because you chose to apply to a school that costs 23k. Pell grants are income based, if your EFC is 5000 then you get 550, even if you are going to a propriety school that costs multiple times what it should. On the flip side if your EFC is zero then you get 5k, even if you are going to a California Community College and paying $22/hr (that's about 330 a trimester or 990 a year). Like I, and others, said before; if you don't want to pay 23k, don't go to a school that costs 23k.

I would call the schools, you should be fine though (the schools that only allow 2 can just look at the first 2, the schools that allow 3 can look at all 3).

"Too many" depends on which side of Nursing Education you are on. I am sure the 2/3 to 3/4 (depending on who's stats you are looking at) of nonaccepted qualified applicants and those on 4 year waitlists would think that there aren't enough schools. Where those looking for jobs post school think there are too many schools. I think there are way too many schools, I rather have one hurdle (struggling to get into school) instead of two (add in the job search). The thing is, as the amount of nursing students continues to grow, those generic brand nursing school students are going to find it ever harder to get a job. Sure it will be hard for everyone, but I see the hiring gap extending beyond BSN vs ADN and into State and Prestigous Private vs For-Profit private. Its already happening outside of nursing, grads of For-Profits are seen as less qualified for jobs than their State and Prestigous College educated peers. This is worrisome because those for-profits promise and cost so much.

Keep your post-bac grade point average at a 4.0, that says lots. You also should apply to schools that take the entire applicant into consideration (as opposed to a school that just makes cuts based on GPA and test scores.

I am starting a BSN program in 3 weeks. I chose BSN over ADN for a variety of reasons. 1. I really wanted a bachelors. I joined the military right out of HS and the quality of life between HS and College grads was immense. So that was a big driving factor. 2. I noticed the troubles that ADN prepped students have with running into BSN only need apply job ads 3. The ADN students in my area spend about 2 years doing pre-and co-reqs (the schools admissions awarded more points if a student completed all non-nursing courses), so either way I would have been in school for 4 years. 4. My BSN program was in the USWNR top ten when I started my journey (now top 15) and no one out of my area had ever heard of the local ADN program (networking and alumni ass'n are valuable tools in today's society). 5. I found some scholarships that resulted in my BSN program being cheaper than the local ADN program (the ADN program is thru the CC that I did my pre-reqs thru). 6. The BSN program is closer to my house and I can get there without using major roads, where the ADN program requires me to take two interstates, and in my region traffic is a monster so that is a huge factor. 7. Related to 6. Parking is free and easy to find at the BSN school, not so much at the ADN. 8. The BSN campus is in a great area, has alot of security and awesome amenities, where the ADN is in a urban location, has had alot of issues with crimes against students by non-students, and is no-frills. I know some of those reasons aren't the most glamourous but sometimes nursing isn't so glamourous either.