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California voters elected an actor to run the state government. Did you expect something better to happen?

My school had intermediate algebra as a prereq so I had to take beginner's algebra and the intermediate algebra. Really you don't need anything more than beginner's algebra to get through statistics. If you take a placement test then you may be able to waive those requirements. Statistics isn't easy but you'll get through it with the right professor. Most people in my stats class got F's and C's, a couple B's, and maybe 2 or 3 A's. It really helps if you know excel inside and out.

Same at my school. The professors make big threats about what will happen if people are caught cheating or plagiarizing and they never follow through. Many teachers claim that if you're caught cheating that they will give you an F for the course or drop you from the class. I checked with the dean of my school and he told me that under California law, the most that can happen is that you will get a 0 on that particular assignment.

Last year a couple people cheated on an exam in my Statistics class. I notified the professor and the dean of the school and the professor was forced to make the entire class retake the test...

You should drop Micro. 3-4 hours a day is probably enough to cover A&P only.

I used flash cards a lot during the first month of class to help me memorize terms like body regions and one-word definitions. After the first month the flash cards weren't helping

on a non-test week i studied for around 20-25 hours per week. on a test-week i studied around 25-30 hours during the week. i got an a in the class. the people in my class who made an a were the people who live, eat, and breath anatomy. when we slept, we had dreams about anatomy. when we ate meat, we were identifying the cell types, tunics, tissue types, bones, and muscles of the foods we ate. we were always in the library, lab, or study room. whatever else was going on in our lives stopped and became about anatomy. everyone else got a b, c, or f. here is an excerpt from our syllabus dealing with study time: study time: for each hour spent in class, students should expect to spend at least 2 to 3 hours outside of class studying in order to achieve an average grade ©. (note this estimate is for the average student to earn an average grade for this class is 18 – 27 hours per week!) you should find yourself studying, reviewing and preparing for class and lab each day of the week! (basically eat, breath, and sleep anatomy 47!). note: be careful not to confuse quantity studying with quality study. simply spending time with your books and materials will not earn you a better grade. only hours of directed, motivated studying will work toward earning you a better grade!

Whether you get FAFSA money or pay out of pocket has nothing to do with advisors. It's not like they get a commission. At any rate, the college gets the same amount of money whether you pay out of pocket or through FAFSA. Not sure why you mention this since it's irrelavent. An advisor's job is to advise. Their job is to tell you what classes to take. They did their job. You went to see an advisor, and they advised you. Their job isn't to tell you what you want to hear. Their advice may be different from what you think is correct. You're under no obligation to follow their plan. You never said why they disagreed with you. You could be picking the wrong classes if you do it on your own. I'm not sure why you mention the fact that your parents didn't consent. What do your parents have to do with it? It's not your parent's job to micromanage every little thing you do. Your parents aren't going to college for you. College is about getting things done on your own and taking personal responsibility. If something goes wrong, you can't make it your advisor's fault or your parent's fault. You need to take some responsibility for things. As for your needs as a student? You need to take the required courses, end of story. Whatever else you need is beside the point. If you want to take courses that deviate from the education plan, then do it, but what's that got to do with nursing? The advisor's job is to get you into the nursing program as fast as possible. It sounds like they did that. What needs aren't being met? What are your rights as a student? You have the right to take whatever classes you want, as long as it meets with the admissions and registration requirements. You don't have to follow the advisor's plan. They are giving you ADVICE, which means YOU get to choose what to take and they ADVISE you. You don't have to listen to their advice. If you think their advice is wrong, get advice from another source. Go to a different advisor. Ask another student. Be resourceful.

I don't think most doctors have a GPA that high. The requirements to get into CSU nursing are just incredible...

I wasn't suggesting withholding any information. If the nursing school requires transcripts from all prior schools, even if you didn't get a degree, then obviously you have to provide it. The school I'm looking at doesn't have anything like that on their application. If they did then of course I'd provide it. The courses I took are from 10 years ago and the school only looks at the most recent 60 credits earned anyway.

Lol. Which law did I break exactly?

Based on what I've heard from people who've been accepted, and from talking to the advisers at some CSU schools, you need a 3.50 to even be considered for acceptance and a 3.75 if you want a good chance of getting in.

Probably not

No it's not. My school records are confidential and I'm not obligated by any law, policy, or rule to share every school transcript with every other school I attend. You need to know what you're talking about before you spout words like "Fraud" around

Good luck!

At $35,000 per year plus the cost of housing and books? No thanks

I'd say community colleges are harder. Of course, it varies by professor.

I've simply stated my opinion. I don't believe that someone who passed a class should get to retake the class for a higher grade. It turns out that the California school system agrees with me since that is their written policy. Life happens, ok I get it, but life happens to everyone. Some people make a bunch of excuses for their poor grades, and other people take personal responsibility for what happens. If you don't agree with me, and I can understand why you don't, then that's fine, I respect your opinion. But your repeated assertions that I'm going to be a bad nurse because I don't shower you with feel-good happy-talk, well I don't respect that at all. I'm allowed to disagree with people, just like everyone is allowed to disagree with me. That says nothing about the quality of nurse we will become. You're a user on a nursing forum, not my patient under my care.

The best solution is to start over. I also had a similar experience as you. Went to college straight out of highschool and had something like a 2.0 GPA with at least one F on my transcript before I gave up. When I decided to go for nursing, I went to a new college and did not transfer anything from my prior school. Basically started over from scratch, clean slate. I had to repeat a lot of courses but I would have to repeat them anyway since I forgot almost everything I learned.

I work full time and go to class at night and on weekends. Last year I had to miss a week of classes because my baby was born in the middle of the spring semester and I spent a whole week in the hospital. Stuff happens to all of us and you have to deal with it or drop the class. Sorry if I sound insensitive but if you believe you aren't going to get the grade you want then drop the class and retake it. Once you complete the class and get a grade, that's your grade and it's not really fair to just redo the class so you can get a better grade. It's not fair to the students who work double hard and take notes until their hands go numb and put their entire life on hold and make huge sacrifices to get the job done in the time allotted for a single semester.

If life happens then you need to deal with it or drop the course and retake it next semester. In California colleges you're allowed to drop a course up until 75% of class meetings are completed. So for a 16 week class you can drop the course until the end of week 12. If you go past week 12 and you need to drop the course because of a life event that causes you to be unable to continue the class, your school dean can allow you to drop the course with a W.

Every school I've looked at publishes a yearly course catalog. The first chapter of the course catalog usually has the school's policies including the policy on retaking classes. No need to even contact the school, just read the course catalog.

The standard for California colleges is to only allow you to repeat a class if you get a failing grade or if there is a significant lapse of time (like 5 or 10 years). The standard of transfer acceptance for California State University nursing schools is to average together all grades. So if you took a class and got a C and then retake it and get an A, both grades will be averaged together and will have the effect of a B. My personal bias is that students should not be allowed to repeat a class if they got a passing grade. An A on your transcript means that you worked hard and got the job done in the time allotted, which is 16 weeks for a regular semester course. If you need to take the same class twice in order to get an A then your A isn't really equivalent to someone who took the class once and got an A. The student who took the class once was able to get the job done in 16 weeks whereas the student who took the class twice got the job done in 32 weeks. Big big difference. It's not really fair to those of us who worked our tails off to get the A in 16 weeks. Anyone can get an A after retaking the class and getting 32 weeks to learn what should be learnable in 16 weeks. But that's just my personal bias.

What's the point? Both grades will be on your transcript and the school you apply to may ignore the higher grade or average them together. Assuming they average them, a 3.0 and a 4.0 still makes a 3.5, hardly worth the time and effort of repeating the class...

I bought the anatomy coloring book but I never used it because I don't see what the point of it is. You can buy mine if you really want it. I made my own flash cards, made my own notes and study material. Read the lecture, study the textbook, make your own notes, repetition, you'll be fine.