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But at least we won't say we went down without a fight. Another nurse posted that changes were made in her institution because of an incident that happened with her at work. Also remember those NY nurses that lost their jobs because they refused to take the covid vaccine, they sued and eventually won their case? They went against big coorporations, and they won! What if we win as well?

Let's get a WhatsApp group going for this... my email is [email protected] 201-988-3971

Thank you. Sounds like the nightmare never ends. I will just never ever get a license in FL and focus on working in NY or TX then. It makes no sense to jump through all the loops.

My advice, from what I've seen is, their evaluation is a JOKE. They will use Anything you say to frame you and give you the longest possible contract. I was honest and got screwed (thinking honesty is the best policy) - Nope, not with those people. I never had a drug/alcohol problem, but because one of the questions was if I ever blacked out or forgot parts while I was drinking, and being ex-military stationed in Germany after a deployment to Iraq, of course I went out with my fellow battle buddies and drank after deployment - That alone apparently made me an alcoholic so DO NOT mention your meds!! See if you can get a new doctor and get your prescription s with a clean story. If they ever ask you "have you ever drank so much that you blacked out? (Even if you did that 20 years ago) the answer is NO. There is no history of any social life with those people. Make your intake make you sound as boring as possible. Say your are active, gym goes, you like hiking, etc. You don't drink or do drugs, specially if you knowny9u don't have a problem. There are a lot of nurses in RAMP that do have a drug/alcohol problem and get triggered when there's someone in ramp that say they don't have a problem, because to them it is impossible to believe that one can go out and have one drink. Don't 3ven bother listening to their demons. You are there to save yourself from the hell that program is. Best wishes!! ?

WOW!! That is so terrible!!

Honestly, that sounds horrible, I've been through NJ RAMP and I don't think I could go through FL IPN which actually sounds even worse. Is moving to another state an option for you? Believe it or not, while I was going through harsh times with the NJBON, I applied for RN license in NY and they gave me a "stayed probation" for 2 years. I was able to work, didn't need to ask for authorization to work or any of that. It was very professional friendly. If moving in an option, I'd say try New York. There are some parts upstate NY that are actually very affordable and it is beautiful out there. Best wishes to you.

Never again!

OMG did you go to meetings in Bergen County? Because I remember this case from going to the meetings, a lady taking the trash in her apartment complex and got a dui

Yep, I learned that lesson in a very hard way!

When you enter an IPN agreement. Do they make you inactivate your licenses in other states?

They asked me for my prescription because it came up on my urine screen

I have a prior disciplinary action and got accepted in the PMHNP program at University of Texas, it is 100% online

How is this even legal? There has to be something we can do, this scam has been going on for decades now. Should we write to the governor and start a petition? There are absolutely no checks and balances with these programs. This is a problem across the whole country.

You are SPOT ON! Went through the same hell in NJ and I moved to FL, now I am scared they will throw me in the program. IDK what to do

I am so sorry you are going through this. Have you considered moving to another state? I had so many issues with the NJ BON, I moved to Texas and dealt with the Texas BON directly (no TPAPN) and they gave me a one year monitoring program, which was easy since I don't even drink, my license in Texas is unencumbered now. I wish you the best of luck!

UCF accepts students while they are in a monitoring program?

I have discipline on my record from the past and I am in 2nd semester of PMHNP. As long as the license where you will be doing your clinical is unencumbered, you should be fine.

I had a lawyer, and she did not help at all. I was still sent to RAMP, I guess it was just a little be faster since I had a lawyer and my paper was sorta pushed to the front.

I was in RAMP, and it is a total rip-off. I went broke while on that program. You will be unemployed as a nurse for months, if not years. Many people get jobs in other fields while in this program because it is costly. RAMP is not flexible at all! I would call the BON before you sign a RAMP agreement and ask if you can be monitored by the Professional Assistance Program of New Jersey (PAP) instead. PAP is way more flexible regarding where you can test, and they don't have all the restrictions that RAMP will impose on your license. When I was in RAMP, I had to go to the testing site they sent me to. You will have to download this app for this 3rd party monitoring company; you have to check in every day. It will randomly tell you, "You are selected to test today," and you must go to the site they send you. They would not allow me to test elsewhere. PAP lets you choose where you can test if your insurance covers. Ask the board if you can do PAP instead. Best wishes!!

I had a HORRIBLE experience with RAMP, which ruined my life basically and led to many other roadblocks in my nursing career. I was in a 2.5 yr contract, I thought that was extremely long time since I never had a DUI, never diverted drugs, I never did drugs or was an alcoholic. They put me in the program for taking a narcotic without a prescription. I was going to go to the ER, but my friend offered me a Percocet and leftover antibiotics she had from a previous infection. I took it because, to be honest, I was tired and feeling lazy that day; I did not feel like waiting hours in the ER. RAMP did not like my "attitude," I guess because I refused to say that I had a drug problem because I did not. To make a long story short, one time I got a random urine test, it came back positive for HEROINE! ... Which was insane because wasn't even drinking a drop since I was in the program. I told them that it was probably a mistake from the lab and requested that they take a higher level of testing. They still called my job, and I was immediately unemployed. Not only that, but two days later, I was selected for a hair test, I was excited about it because that was my time to prove to them that I did not take any drugs; my hair test came back negative, and my case manager told me that they were NOT going to consider the hair test because I requested it and that the urine is their "gold standard." I was in disbelief but didn't want to make them angry or anything because being in that program is a total ********. I left a job that I loved, and because of that, I went broke for many months. They locked me in a 5-year contract that I never finished anyway because I moved to another state. So my license in NJ is "inactive," and if I ever wanted to reinstate it, I would have to go back to RAMP. I don't think I can deal with that. My license is unencumbered in 2 states; just not able to obtain a compact license because of my issues with the NJBON, courtesy of RAMP.

The other "good nurses" (myself included) kept checking on that patient from time to time. We kept telling this other nurse to check on her patient because O2 says were not reading, we suggested her draw labs, etc. Most places I've worked at, we all help each other out. If there's an admission coming and the nurse receiving that patient is busy, we do as much as we can to help her with the admission, drawing labs, entering vitals, start on pressors, whatever it takes to stabilize the patient until the nurse assigned to that patient can get caught up. So your assumption that we are crappy nurses , I mean "good nurses" is unnecessary, but there, I explained it anyways. This particular night at some point everyone got busy. If you haven't been in that situation where everyone is busy and even management is not available, then I have no idea where you work, other than this magical place where everyone is a "good nurse" 100% of the time. When we all got busy she evidently continued to neglect her patient. The most educated nurse in the unit was the worst nurse during that night. That was my point. If you graduated from Walden or Columbia it doesn't matter to me, as long as you show that you know what you're doing and you care for your patients. No need to reply if you are going to imply something wrong about me or whatever happens during my shift. You weren't there.

I worked with a nurse that was getting her DNP, always seemed to be on top of her academic achievements as a nurse, had all the credentials you can imagine behind her name... AWFUL nurse. Took all the shortcuts because she was so busy doing homework or reading her school stuff. She would neglect her patients because she would spend a great part of the shift doing school work. One of her patients even died because she kept silencing the alarms from the nursing station instead of actually checking on her patient, by the time she got up to check it was almost change of shift and she only got up because she wanted to make her patient look presentable for the next shift. Her patient was blue. We coded the patient for about an hour because she was also young. I will never forget the cries of the family when they arrived to the unit. When I left work that day, I sat in my car for a good 10 minutes and cried. There is a saying "I don't care how much you know, I care how much you care" (something like that) If you truly care, you will study and do all the work, do your best as a clinician, as a MSN student. Some people simply are bad test takers and got 3.0 GPA in their undergraduate studies. Those people that would not allow students from certain schools do clinicals because of how the school approaches them, have the right to do so, but they need to remember where they started and not take anything personal. They could instead interview the students and ask knowledge questions to see if the students are actually motivated to learn, regardless of what school they come from.

They can't prove that you are under the influence but if they are suspicious they can drug test you and it will come up positive since weed takes long time to get out of your system. I would just say if you are smoking due to your PTSD don't get tested. Quit your job before you have to get tested (if it ever comes down to that). Don't drink n drive or do a major traffic violation. A cop that thinks you are under the influence can take you for a drug screen, and again, even if you aren't high behind the wheel, the test will be positive. Also don't switch jobs often, since most jobs require a drug screen before employment. The last thing you want is to be put on one of those probation programs by the BON, they are brutal! Best wishes to you ❤️

Maybe try to get a remote job if you are getting sick that often. I had really bad allergies when I lived in El Paso. I had to be on meds, went to the ER a bunch of times and nothing worked. I called out a lot too. I went to Mexico and had good treatment that actually got my allergies under control for a while.

Hello, I have a past disciplinary action from 2013, nearly 11 years later this still comes up every time. I am licensed in 5 states and I have 2 unencumbered licenses but the other 3 are "expired" I was told I have to do probation if I plan on reactivating my license in NJ. I am sure NC and FL will be the same deal. I do not want to deal with that since I just completed probation in NY and TX and I just want to advance in my career at this point. I went from critical care to Psych and love it. I just want to know if it would even be worth for me to get a masters degree in nursing. Will the BON issue me a NP license once I pass my boards? Would they hold my past and the fact that 3 of my nursing licenses are not active?