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PRN--ON CALL

Hello, I am wanting to do hospice prn. However, I applied for a company that says all of their prn staff must take on call a weekend out of the month(FRi, Sat, & Sun) plus two other days in the month. The manager makes out the on call schedule for you and schedule your on call days for you even though you are prn. I have never heard of such a thing. And the on call rate is only 30.00 for the entire day despite if you go out to a call for X amount of hours. Is this common in Hospice nursing for a prn nurse. Please give me you input.

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Welcome to allnurses, we have a huge community so I am sure you will find answers to any nursing questions you may have!

That seems a bit much. Prn staff in my agency do 1 weekend a quarter in which they are on call. The pay rate sounds about right though

That seems a bit odd. I had a PRN job and I could choose when I took call. I received $2p/hr for being on call during the weekend. We also received $150 for an automatic stipend, $30 per hr while with a patient, $25 per hr for driving time in addition to payment per mile.

The $2/hr was beeper call time and the $150 was incentive to get you to sign up

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I know that is very very unusual.. I always thought prn is having the flexibility of making out your own schedule. I have never worked hospice before but to make out the on call schedule for a prn employee a month in advance is a bit much. PRN meaning no full time maybe not even part time hours + no benefits. But they would still have my schedule tied up without me having any say so in the days I want to take call.. Is very unheard of

I have worked prn at 2 different hospices over the past few years and have done a lot of call. At my present hospice, all the nurses help with call and I am required to work 2 call shifts a month. I determine which shifts I work. I get $2 per hour plus my hourly wage and differential if I make a visit. I would not do call for only $30 per day. That's too low for what typically turns out to be a busy shift.

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^^^ Exactly.. 30.00 a day is unrealistic. If someone die, I may be at a faciltity or their home for hours. Thanks for your input Al. I think I will look for another job.

I misread your post - I thought you were being paid 30.00/hr not a day! That is crazy!!

This sounds like a bad deal all around. Our PRN nurses do not have to participate in the on-call rotation. When a nurse is on call, they make $2/hour beeper time, then hourly rate + mileage "door to door," from when they leave home to answer a call, to when they return.

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I would not go along with this either, defeats the purpose of being PRN, not to mention the too low compensation as compared to other set-ups.

Hello, I am wanting to do hospice prn. However, I applied for a company that says all of their prn staff must take on call a weekend out of the month(FRi, Sat, & Sun) plus two other days in the month. The manager makes out the on call schedule for you and schedule your on call days for you even though you are prn. I have never heard of such a thing. And the on call rate is only 30.00 for the entire day despite if you go out to a call for X amount of hours. Is this common in Hospice nursing for a prn nurse. Please give me you input.

If what you are saying here is, in fact true, I would not accept the position. I would put into writing exactly WHY I was declining their offer.

However, I have a difficult time imagining what state has labor laws which would allow them to pay you such a ridiculous and paltry sum for that number of hours. Are you certain that you clearly understand the offer?

If what you are saying here is, in fact true, I would not accept the position. I would put into writing exactly WHY I was declining their offer.

However, I have a difficult time imagining what state has labor laws which would allow them to pay you such a ridiculous and paltry sum for that number of hours. Are you certain that you clearly understand the offer?

Agree, I bet there is a misunderstanding.

I'm home health and we receive a flat rate for being on call for a 12 hr period then paid visit rate and mileage (or hourly if we're hourly staff) for any visits. Plus OT if it applies. (We're set up differently than hospice and many HHA's and don't expect to make visits so essentially get a flat rate to be available telephonically for an occasional call).

I would imagine that the oncall nurse for your Hospice is kept busy so you're getting the $30 plus hourly for any work you perform. Ask to do a ride along with one of the nurses and find out.

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