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Med Errors

For our collective benefit, list some of the med errors you've seen committed or caught before they were committed.

The only rules are:

1. No blaming.

2. No naming names.

3. State what the error was.

Examples:

1. Mag and KCl hanging without a pump. ---Both need to be administered on a pump.

2. Regular insulin, pulled up in mg's, not units ---Self-explanatory.

3. Digoxin 0.125 mg po qd ----Given with an apical HR of 42.

4. Order for Vistaril IV ---Never give Vistaril IV.

5. Lopressor 25 mg po bid, 1 tab ----Pt. got 50 mg. because this med only comes in 50 mg tabs and should've read "1/2 tab."

6. PRBCs hung over the 4 hour limit. PRBCs piggybacked into ABTs. ---PRBC total hang time may not exceed 4 hours. This might include time taken from the blood bank in some facilities. ---Never piggyback anything into PRBCs.

7. PRBCs not hung for over 24h with a Hgb of 6.8.

8. "Demerol 100 mg. IVP q2h prn" --Classic case of "too much, too soon."

9. "Percocet 1-2 tabs po q4h prn, Darvocet N-100 1-2 tabs po q4h prn, Tylenol ES gr. X q4-6 h prn" ---Tylenol can potentially exceed 4 gm/day max.

10. Dilantin piggybacked into D5. ---NS yes, D5 no.

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My God.

Sorry, I'm a new nurse too. This is blowing my mind, some of it. I actually just made a med error, omitted a med and it got delivered late, luckily it wasn't too big of a deal. And of course I live right near Virginia Mason, where someone injected cleaning fluid into a patient and they died. (Not me, thank God, thank God, thank God.)

So what *happens* to these nurses? It seems like even for the most gross errors nothing happened? Do they get fired? Do they get educated? Do the patients get informed? Curious what the rules are.

God NO, NO methergine IV ever. Never have seen that.

Pitocin IV set up to be given without being piggy-backed to Lactated Ringers.

Caught before administered.

Procardia almost given instead of a prenatal vitamin.

Caught before administered.

  • Guides

New nurse in OB on her own after orientation - same scenario as Suzy. Pitocin induction with no mainline of LR. I got her some LR quickly without scaring the patient.

steph

OB... new nurse on orientation, started pitocin drip to gravity. Her preceptor told her to start the pit low, so she did, just not on a pump. Of course, the patient ended up in the section room for fetal distress.

..............and they want to replace LPN/LVN with CMA's and other unlicensed people........

anyone see a problem here???

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..............and they want to replace LPN/LVN with CMA's and other unlicensed people........

anyone see a problem here???

Having come to nursing later in life without any kind of medical knowledge I have to say I continue to be amazed and dismayed at the amount of med errors.

steph

I am too, Steph. It is scary....and sobering.

Even though some of these med errors astonish me I learned long ago to never assume that I would never make the same mistake. I AM that stupid, and sometimes that careless, especially when busy and overconfident. Luckily I've caught most of my own serious errors, and the one time I didn't I confessed immediately and the patient made it through.

I think the important message of this thread is that there but for the fear of God goes every one of us, we can't assume we wouldn't screw up just as stupidly. If you keep that healthy fear you will be a much safer nurse.

For our collective benefit, list some of the med errors you've seen committed or caught before they were committed.

The only rules are:

1. No blaming.

2. No naming names.

3. State what the error was.

Examples:

1. Mag and KCl hanging without a pump. ---Both need to be administered on a pump.

2. Regular insulin, pulled up in mg's, not units ---Self-explanatory.

3. Digoxin 0.125 mg po qd ----Given with an apical HR of 42.

4. Order for Vistaril IV ---Never give Vistaril IV.

5. Lopressor 25 mg po bid, 1 tab ----Pt. got 50 mg. because this med only comes in 50 mg tabs and should've read "1/2 tab."

6. PRBCs hung over the 4 hour limit. PRBCs piggybacked into ABTs. ---PRBC total hang time may not exceed 4 hours. This might include time taken from the blood bank in some facilities. ---Never piggyback anything into PRBCs.

7. PRBCs not hung for over 24h with a Hgb of 6.8.

8. "Demerol 100 mg. IVP q2h prn" --Classic case of "too much, too soon."

9. "Percocet 1-2 tabs po q4h prn, Darvocet N-100 1-2 tabs po q4h prn, Tylenol ES gr. X q4-6 h prn" ---Tylenol can potentially exceed 4 gm/day max.

10. Dilantin piggybacked into D5. ---NS yes, D5 no.

New grad trying to be helpful walks past a room with IV beeping. She adds more volume to the pump so the rest of the IV fluid could be infused. It was Mannitol.

Even though some of these med errors astonish me I learned long ago to never assume that I would never make the same mistake. I AM that stupid, and sometimes that careless, especially when busy and overconfident. Luckily I've caught most of my own serious errors, and the one time I didn't I confessed immediately and the patient made it through.

I think the important message of this thread is that there but for the fear of God goes every one of us, we can't assume we wouldn't screw up just as stupidly. If you keep that healthy fear you will be a much safer nurse.

point well-taken. Another reason to respect meds and the process of administrating them. Another reason I say, if you want medications administered, you hire a NURSE. We are not infallable, but we do at least realize the consquences and implications of every med we give.

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I once gave an infant 10 times the ordered dose of propofol. She needed handventilation for about 15 minutes, until it wore off. Wrote that one up myself. I also had a near-miss years ago when a coworker was struggling to keep a patient from climbing off the bed and asked me to give Ativan... it's over there on the counter. I pick up the 1ml syringe on the counter and have it in the port on the stopcock before I notice it's pancuronium... The kid never got any, and once I located and gave the correct drug, I cleaned up the bedside. No more pancuronium laying around for this little extubated kid!

New grad just off orientation gave an infant captopril via CVC. In the middle of morning rounds. With the rounding staff standing by the bed. Good thing since the kiddie arrested. He survived, but we'll never know for sure if there are long-term effects, due to his underlying problems.

New grad six months on the job in PICU mistook the balloon port on a Foley catheter being used temproarily as a GT for med port (thought it was so cool to have a med port that had a valve in it!) and gave a shift's worth of GT meds into it, including several doses of chloral hydrate and furosemide. Guess what happened when the balloon finally broke? Yup.

Kiddie comes back from OR post renal transplant to a PICU slammed with admissions and insufficient staff. Nurse is mixing up infusions as ordered by the nephro team. Order reads "Wt 12 kg. Morphine 180 mg in 125 ml NS - 1 ml/hr = 10 mcg/kg/hr (120 mcg). Start at 40 mcg/kg/hr." She proceeds to mix it as written, second nurse reads the order, looks at the drug drawn up in the syringe- both match- signs off on the infusion and goes back to her crumping post-op heart. Kid gets 4 ml/hr of this infusion (5.76 MG/ hr!!) for more than a day before it was picked up. Nice that he was intubated...

This quaternary care center of 650 beds and 8 ICUs does not have a pharmacist in house between 23 and 07 ever. If the med you need on nights isn't in your Pyxis, it might be in the "night cupboard". A security guard goes and gets it. Hmmm.

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