$40/hr in LTC?

Yes, strings attached. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. The $40 is probably for Christmas morning 7 to 11. Otherwise $18. ha ha ha. I have seen places try to get people in this way. No different than retail stores who advertise all kinds of great sounding deals just to get folks in the door. Let us know what the "real deal" is.

The sad part is that we think that's a lot of money. Plumbers, physical therapists, lawyers, builders all make so much more. They don't get sued (as much as nurses, I'd bet), they can be self-employed, they don't clean poo, they don't have to contort their emotions and pretend not to care when yelled at or disrespected. They don't deal with life and death. Lives, yes, in the case of lawyers, but, if they screw up, nobody suffers but their clients. No one ever goes after them.

Why don't you check it out and let us know?

The sad part is that we think that's a lot of money. Plumbers, physical therapists, lawyers, builders all make so much more. They don't get sued (as much as nurses, I'd bet), they can be self-employed, they don't clean poo, they don't have to contort their emotions and pretend not to care when yelled at or disrespected. They don't deal with life and death. Lives, yes, in the case of lawyers, but, if they screw up, nobody suffers but their clients. No one ever goes after them.

Why don't you check it out and let us know?

But, on the other hand--the entry level education for nurses is an associates degree. Lawyers and therapists require much more training. I personally haven't met a builder or plumber that makes more than me but I'm sure they are out there. I think if nurses want to gripe about how much they make they should also be pushing for a higher level of education for nurses. What other profession in the healthcare field has such a low education requirement?

But, on the other hand--the entry level education for nurses is an associates degree. Lawyers and therapists require much more training. I personally haven't met a builder or plumber that makes more than me but I'm sure they are out there. I think if nurses want to gripe about how much they make they should also be pushing for a higher level of education for nurses. What other profession in the healthcare field has such a low education requirement?

Some of us have BSN, MSN, DSN, Ph.D and our profession gets paid nowhere near what others lettered the same get. Anyway, I wasn't griping, I was bemoaning and observing and opining. :chuckle

I get $35/hour:redpinkhe

Some of us have BSN, MSN, DSN, Ph.D and our profession gets paid nowhere near what others lettered the same get. Anyway, I wasn't griping, I was bemoaning and observing and opining. :chuckle

Exactly.

You know, I am all for one furthering their education, I truly believe that you can never learn too much. However, requiring a certain education minimum will not solve problems like these.

These problems will only be solved when all nurses come together and attempt to make a difference. Instead of saying that we will get better with more education, why not say that we are proud of all people of our profession and take a stand.

I can promise you that having an entry level BSN will not change everything. To the common lay-person and to policticians (majority anyway), the term "nurse" will probably always equate to bedpans, pill pushing, doctor worshipping women.

When we pose that our colleagues - who are just as qualified and competent - are "less" than us because their level of education is different (which is not necessarily less/worse), then we are not showing that we are proud of our profession and we can't demand respect from others if we don't respect ourselves.

I can promise you that having an entry level BSN will not change everything. To the common lay-person and to policticians (majority anyway), the term "nurse" will probably always equate to bedpans, pill pushing, doctor worshipping women.

When we pose that our colleagues - who are just as qualified and competent - are "less" than us because their level of education is different (which is not necessarily less/worse), then we are not showing that we are proud of our profession and we can't demand respect from others if we don't respect ourselves.

I wasn't trying to start a ASN vs BSN vs whatever debate. I have an ASN and a BSN. I am the first to assert that my BSN basically didn't benefit me in anyway whatsoever. In many ways (and I cringe to say this because it took a lot of time) it was a waste of money. I was just trying, for the sake of argument, to point out that increasing the level of education for all nurses is a positive thing. I think that the field of nursing is behind the times in their educational requirements. Pharmacists now have their doctorate. I have worked with PTs with their doctorate. ST, OT, PT and nutrition services all have more education, generally, than us. I just feel that nurses would get more respect if we--as an entire profession--sought to increase our education level. I would love to work with masters prepared nurses but it seems like the minute nurses get their master's degree they either start teaching or become management.

Nurses who get their masters often leave bedside care for several reasons---1- we are told we are over-qualified and won't be paid more for a masters with bedside care, --we are told there is no position except management for an Ms RN 2-it's the only way to teach (why can't a bachelors RN teach??) and sometimes, we are just looking for a way to deal with the burnout from bedside nursing....

Yep, $40/hr in N. Cal area...I think it's $50/hr now. I worked there..evenings..a personal pill pusher...wasnt to bad if ya didnt mind working doubles cause they could never cover the night shift...plus or minus...no OT...hard to do charting..I believe I had max of 18-20 pts... double on nights..they have a high turnover rate..

What is a contingent program? Is it weekend or prn? I've seen 30-35 for weekend and prn staff in Pittsburgh area.

has anyone ever worked in a ltc facility that pays $40/hr? this one nursing home which is affiliated with hospital has contigent programs for nurses that pays $40/hr!!! i've never ever worked in any place that pays this much. i think hospitals have the same contigent program that has the same pay scale but still i think there is some kind of string attached to this kind of pay dont you think so???

ps. i'm in michigan and the highest pay in ltc facilities for rns are $32 dollars.

i can imagine that rate of pay b/c it would suck so bad. you'd have to pay me that amount to consider having that many residents and passing meds all day long.

Nurses who get their masters often leave bedside care for several reasons---1- we are told we are over-qualified and won't be paid more for a masters with bedside care, --we are told there is no position except management for an Ms RN 2-it's the only way to teach (why can't a bachelors RN teach??) and sometimes, we are just looking for a way to deal with the burnout from bedside nursing....

they leave the bedside BECAUSE they get paid more money, which is worth getting the education to reap those rewards. Believe me, if you could get paid more money and stay at the bedside, I'm willing to bet that many many NP's would do that. Less of a hassle to stay at the bedside as opposed to being management. Some schools have BSN prepared instructors, I'm sure - the school I graduated from had all PhD level instructors.... all of them.