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Foreign Nurses from the Philippines

hael171972 specializes in LTC/Telemetry/MedSurg.

hello evryone..

im leah from the philippines.

want to meet filipino nurses here...

and discuss with them their success stories of immigrating in the usa..

and maybe they could help me also.

mga pinoys and pinays...hope u could find time of sharing your stories here...

thank you...god bless..

hi im a filipina nurse movin to USA early next year, i have taken all the exams in order to get an immigrant visa, im excited and anxious since this is my first foreign exposure.

godbless

hello leah, im not realy yet working as a nurse at other countries . im pretty much yet here in the philippines. but ill soon be getting my board exam and also planning to work abroad in europe. seeing my point in posting this is that im also a Filipino. Anyway, I hope that "dumami pa tayo". By the way, do you know any filipino local nursing site? if you do please feel free to inform me or add it to your next thread. Its supposed to be added at the australasian forum at this site by my online friend who is a moderator from austalia. good luck.

hi everyone! this is my first time to join a forum and post a message. i have read some of the messages here and i find it very informative. i would like to address this message to all filipino nurses who are now successfully working in the us. it was last year when an opportunity knocked my door. an agency offered me a Scholarship program (sponsorship in all exams, review and visa processing). i passed cgfns and ielts. but i felt frustrated because they have only few employers. the ones that came were very particular with hospital experience. that's the reason why i was not called for an interview. the agency now requires us to go back to hospital while waiting, or attend their training program(which will cost arnd p17k), for us to be marketable.this was not cleared to us when we signed the contract with them. they have accepted us even without hospital experience. in our present economic situation, i can’t afford to give up my job without the assurance that i will be deployed very soon. i have 2 kids to feed and i can't take the risk just like that. right now, i am exploring other options and i hope you would help me on some concerns:

1) is hospital experience really necessary? i heard some were able to emigrate and work there even without experience?

2) which is better? safer? faster? going thru an agency or direct hire?

3) is it really 12 – 18 months of processing for immigrant visa?

that’s all for now. i would greatly appreciate if you could find time to send your comments or share your experiences. thanks and god bless!

~neriners~

This is just a question, so please do not get me wrong. I just wondered because I am ignorant or misinformed here, is there a shortage of RN's in the Philipines? I just want to know who takes care of your citizens? Do nursing students take care of the patients, or are there too many nurses there?

Thanks!

I work with some fantastic nurses from England, the Philipines, India, Korea, and even Poland, so don't get me confused with someone who doesn't want you! I just always wanted to ask this :)

Rep

Specializes in Medical-Surgical.

Dear Sharann,

Actually there is no such thing as shortage of nurses here in the Philippines. There are many registered nurses here who are not working in the hospitals. Like me, I work as a medical sales representative. But I have worked for a year as a volunteer staff nurse long time ago.

What they say shortage is that hospitals here are understaff because they don't have the budget to hire more. It is common for a nurse in the unit to have 30 patients per day. I have an experience on that also way back then.

As for brain drain, that's another story. But for shortage, it isn't. We have plenty here waiting for recruitment agencies to be pick up and brought to the States or anywhere.

I hope I answer your question.

Yours truly,

Rep

Tweety, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

Dear Sharann,

What they say shortage is that hospitals here are understaff because they don't have the budget to hire more. It is common for a nurse in the unit to have 30 patients per day. I have an experience on that also way back then.

:eek: I guess I can't complain then. :o

hi there,im an RN there in the PI and i just came here in US last year,im planning to practice my profession soon but if you want i can contact the person thats offering sponsorship and maybe she can help you,pm me okay.take care

If any of you have any specific questions, you can PM here in Bangkok.

nurses:

please also be careful with the agencies that is helping. make sure that they are licensed and regulated. dont be taken advantaged, ok?

Good luck to the ones that are very excited to come out to the US or anywhere else....TIP #1: Learn how to drive, if you are immigrating to the US.

Hospital experience would be great, because it's more inter dependent-nursing out here, you report to the doctor what your pt status is, and you get tel order, etc...with independence, comes accountability and you have to be assertive and reliable. But alot of times, the nurse collaborates with other disciplines, but the case manager is the nurse...not the doctor.

NCLEX-RN will reformat some questions this APRIL, the fill in the blank, the hot spot and the multiple-multiple will be used...please review and be prepared. suggestions lang po. Good luck and God bless

RIA

Rep

Specializes in Medical-Surgical.

hello leah, im not realy yet working as a nurse at other countries . im pretty much yet here in the philippines. but ill soon be getting my board exam and also planning to work abroad in europe. seeing my point in posting this is that im also a Filipino. Anyway, I hope that "dumami pa tayo". By the way, do you know any filipino local nursing site? if you do please feel free to inform me or add it to your next thread. Its supposed to be added at the australasian forum at this site by my online friend who is a moderator from austalia. good luck.

You can visit Philnurse@yahoogroups.com. It is a great site! Once a member, you can tell stories and even ask for help from fellow kababayans. Also good site for looking good recruitment agencies.

Hi, Can you pls. give me some advice. I am a doctor by profession and a BSN degree as well. I applied to sit on California Board of Nursing NCLEX exams in which I was able to pass last January 2004 but license still pending submission of SSN. I also passed the TOEFL and scheduled to take the TSE on March. I bypass the local board and CGFNS since I thought I just give it a try. Do you think I still have to take the Philippine board? I graduated last 1988 and my school is already close as well.

Do you think somebody will hire me even if I don't have any nursing experience.I am holding a US B1 B2 tourist visa and planning to fly in May to try to explore the possibilities of working there as a nurse.I would also need your feedback on how much salary do I expect to receive in case I decided to work there. Although my main objective in migrating is because I'm already fed up with our system of goverment as well as bringing my kid in order for them to have a brighter future.

nurses:

please also be careful with the agencies that is helping. make sure that they are licensed and regulated. dont be taken advantaged, ok?

Good luck to the ones that are very excited to come out to the US or anywhere else....TIP #1: Learn how to drive, if you are immigrating to the US.

Hospital experience would be great, because it's more inter dependent-nursing out here, you report to the doctor what your pt status is, and you get tel order, etc...with independence, comes accountability and you have to be assertive and reliable. But alot of times, the nurse collaborates with other disciplines, but the case manager is the nurse...not the doctor.

NCLEX-RN will reformat some questions this APRIL, the fill in the blank, the hot spot and the multiple-multiple will be used...please review and be prepared. suggestions lang po. Good luck and God bless

RIA

hi ria! tnx for the message. may i know where are you working ryt now? any tips for the NCLEX - RN reformat? what book to read/review? are you in immigrant visa, did you bring your family with you (just in case, ur married and have kids)? thanks.

docnapiv: You must complete the Visa Screen program via CGFNS as a requirement to getting a work permit to work in the US. Which for nurses, it means a green card. One of the requirements of CGFNS is that you have a license in your country to practice as a nurse. Are your dates correct that you graduated in 1988? Also in order for you to get a green card, you have to have an offer of a job from a sponsor, such as hospital or company. Have you been working as a physician for the past 15 years?

You can send me a PM if you would like.........................I am in Bangkok so I am familiar with most of the problems that are coming up with everyone.

Good luck.

Attention: DOCNAPIV. I do not think you need to pass the CGFNS exam for some states, not all 50 states have the same nursing board, so the rules may be different from state to state. You have to contact the state board that you are going to, where did you take the board exam anyway? That is your original license...you will then transfer, or "apply for endorcement" for that license to where ever state you are going to practice as a nurse. I am not the info guru, I only want to share, ok?

As far as I know, all nurses coming in the USA right now automatically gets permanent resident status, I have met quite so many of them...already, I think it's very exciting for us Filipinos. Money wise, it really depends on where you go...you would probably start as new grad RN...then have internship (3-6 months) it depends on which specialty you want/available or assigned to. San Francisco rates starts as 33 per hour as a new grad RN, please bear in mind approx 30% of your money you will never see here in the USA grabehh ang taxes....(Federal Tax, State tax...etch) Also, the rent is quite expensive and super mahal ang bahay in San Francisco..super dami ng filipinos though....and it's hard to be homesick, when you are sorrounded by max's, goldilocks, and alot of filipinos to hang out with...California have strict patient/nurse ratio laws, and paywise, after the 8th hour it's 1.5 of your pay, after the 12th hour it's double pay in california. On the other hand in Dallas, Texas... new grad RN will start at a rate...hmmm about 19.00/ hour the rent is decent and housing is nice....medyo wala lang magawa (boring). As what I have observed...ICU nurses are ones making the big bucks...hehehe...dont be shock kung super dami ng filipinos in ICU dept. the patient ratio is 2 patients to 1 nurse. I hope that my sharing helped a kababayan out there.

RIA ;)

AttN: NERINERS

Ok, neriners this is hard for me to explain...if you have the brown application booklet to apply for NCLEX, there's a couple of samples in pg 17...starting april 2004 they have these new format questions. I have found a book published by Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, it's entitled NCLEX-RN 250 new format Questions, published 2004. What they have mentioned in a conference is that they have raised the bars on nursing....whatever that means. I am an LPN in a bridge program right now for RN, and I will be graduating this coming May. I am also reviewing for the RN board. What I have noticed on reviews is that those medications questions are fill in the blank ie: gtts per minute answers. The telemetry strips always always shows up on the reviews I have been, and the treatments ie: atropine for sinus bradycardia

and the auscultatory areas (APE TO MAN) spots. Also the Intake and Output you have to calculate yourself, so kinda polish yourself if you need to. ABG's are to be expected on the nclex (it even showed up for nclex-pn, so I would expect it for nclex-rn) and know the treatments...Oh, one of my friends said that they went crazy for chest tubes questions...and of course Labwork for digoxin and theophylline and lithium and tegretol...Oh, dont forget the therapeutic communications style and what should the nurse respond....Herbs they say are also coming out and those culturally sensitive questions. Are we getting excited or what??? WE WILL PASS OK, we worked so hard not to. Oh, please...let's not forget our wonderful Psych...Mr Erik Erikson, and his developmental tasks and Mr. MASLOW's and his delightful pyramid of needs....

What we should think is that, the nclex test is one step closer for that wonderful alphabet that we really want....hehehe (can you tell, I need a promotion really soon...)

Whatever happens, I just have to remind myself, that the most important thing is that...I am commited to this, and this is what I want.....

Oh, to those coming in the US as nurses....please get malpractice insurance, and dont say that you have one....the lawyers costs too much 300 bucks per hour...and malpractise insurance will help ALOT, just in case. Because you just dont know when something's gonna happen.....

Malpractice insurance is about 200 bucks a year. L&D is higher though...400 i think per year. I am lucky that I have never have to use it so far, but if something happens, I got lawyers working for me...

GOD Bless!

Ria ;)

Attn: Neriners

I am using the med-surg review book published by Lippincott. author:Ray Huttel-Hargrove. cost: about 25 bucks. She's straight to the point. She's also my lecture and clinical instructor, so maybe that's why it's easier for me coz we use that in school too. For questions purposes: Lippincott's NCLEX-RN by Diane Billings is only questions based. It's an orange color book with 5000 questions. cost: about 30 bucks.

If you want in depth book type: You know those big thick books in nursing school that you dont like to carry around? Well...Medical Surgical Nursing: by Ignatavicius and Workman is the book that you would want. cost: about 90 bucks.

I heard there's quite alot of review centers there in Manila, my barkada said his sister is going to one right now and it cost his 17 thousand pesos. I dont know how long the review would be. The ones that I have been are 3 days long, and very fast....they dont lecture, they just ramble on and on about the "WHY". I have been reviewing and reviewing my butt off....and still, (sigh....) anyways....let's just look forward to that wonderful test....ok?

I am studying here in the states, and my school is a tiny tiny school in Dallas, so my teachers over compensate, they want 100% board passing every time. I am also self supporting, too ashamed to ask my parents for anything because they are both retired....nahihiya ako humingi ng pera, and I feel that I am old na (27) to be asking for money....I am graduating late because I partied too much when I was young....and I kept on changing my mind for the career that I want. But anyways, I finally found my space in this world....and I make a difference. What I have noticed is that some filipinos are very competitive here in the states...who's got the best jewelry, car, house, etch....I wish that Filipinos would be more supportive of each other, and let's encourage each other and let's give something back to the community, it's not all about the money....it's not all about how much you have in your bank account.

Years from now, when I am old and demented, surely, I wont remember what kind of leather goods I have, and what kind of car I drove....I just want to share myself, and make a difference in somebody else's life...and have fulfillment in that too.

Filipinos are some of the most hard working people that I have met in my life, they work double shifts, triple shifts, 365 days a year.....but I have also noticed that they forget how important it is to be present in sharing the lives of their children and significant others.

I would like to remind myself one day, to not do that, since I have that in genetic pool...the hard working individual, I want the things that I never had before attitude....

believe me, I am not super nurse. I am just kyut.

;) RIA

HEY DOCNAPIV!

GET SOME CONFIDENCE, OK. YOU HAVE CALIFORNIA RN LICENSE, YOU WILL GET AN INTERNSHIP. SOMEDAY YOU WILL HAVE YOUR RESIDENCY HERE AS A DOCTOR.

YOU WILL MAKE THE FILIPINOS PROUD. AND WHEN THE TIME COMES WHEN YOU ARE A DOCTOR, YOU WILL TREAT YOUR NURSES WELL.

JUST FYI: UCSF in San Francisco have very good benefits package, and Stanford University Med Center too. I am applying in both as a new gran RN intern myself.

GOOD LUCK!

RIA

1. The one problem that you are up against is graduating from nursing school in 1988.

2. All foreign nurses wishing to work in the US are not automatically granted

permanent residency. You have to be approved by the US Embassy first. Just because you have passed a nursing exam doesn't mean that you will be approved. You need to complete the series of English exams and get a Visa Screen certificate before you will even be considered.

3. At the moment, and probably for the next few years, there will be no temporary work permits issued for RNs in the US, so, yes, if you do want to work there, even if just for a year of so, you will need to complete the process for the green card. No other way around it.

4. I am quite proud of all of you that are making the attempt to work in the US, but please just do it correctly and follow the proper channels. If someone offers you a quick fix solution and makes alot of promises, just take it for what it is worth. There is no way around the Visa Screen, whether you take CGFNS and/or NCLEX initially. There are only five states currently in the US that do not require the CGFNS exam, but that will probably change.

Again, good luck to all of you......................

and p.s. I worked as an RN in the US for 25 years before opening my training program in Bangkok.

HEY DOCNAPIV!

GET SOME CONFIDENCE, OK. YOU HAVE CALIFORNIA RN LICENSE, YOU WILL GET AN INTERNSHIP. SOMEDAY YOU WILL HAVE YOUR RESIDENCY HERE AS A DOCTOR.

YOU WILL MAKE THE FILIPINOS PROUD. AND WHEN THE TIME COMES WHEN YOU ARE A DOCTOR, YOU WILL TREAT YOUR NURSES WELL.

JUST FYI: UCSF in San Francisco have very good benefits package, and Stanford University Med Center too. I am applying in both as a new gran RN intern myself.

GOOD LUCK!

RIA

Confidence i have tons of it he he he... but sometimes an optimist also need some reassurance.Thanks for the info kyut u look even more cuter for boosting my morale. i love you for that.
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