I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

toomuchbaloney said:

That's interesting, I don't recall mentioning confusion about signature verification in my comment that you quoted.  But I guess you think you know what I do or don't know.  That's not at all surprising.  

Shrugs.  You think you didn't imply that you're thinking about breaking voting laws.  OK. I don't believe you anyway.  I think you're just using the silliness to try to make a point about election security that isn't really supported by the actual evidence.   

Yes.  We understand that our elections are currently secure and folks like you are trying to use your manipulated feelings and beliefs about something that might happen to justify making changes to our already secure processes.  It's not lost on us that all of the feelings and beliefs about our election security are precipitated by Trump's persistent lies about voter fraud.  He inspires people to make crazy claims about voting and elections and he's even inspired people to harass workers and fabricate suspicion to justify their actions.  

Why don't you know about the harassment of poll workers? It seems like you might have Googled that statement about harassment before posting it as fact. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/40-percent-us-local-election-officials-report-threats-abuse-rcna149949

https://www.pbs.org/video/threats-to-democracy-1700175758/

https://www.kcur.org/politics-elections-and-government/2024-07-05/2024-election-security-poll-worker-threats

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/election-workers-face-violent-threats-and-harassment-amid-dangerous-political-rhetoric

 

 

LOL....deflection, badly, x3.

I wonder what the groups opinion is of Harris and Fetterman suddenly in favor of fracking?

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fetterman-deflects-on-fracking-policy-u-turn-by-taking-aim-at-trump-vance-ohio-rhetoric-theyre-eating-dogs-theyre-eating-cats/

 

Beerman said:

LOL....deflection, badly, x3.

I wonder what the groups opinion is of Harris and Fetterman suddenly in favor of fracking?

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fetterman-deflects-on-fracking-policy-u-turn-by-taking-aim-at-trump-vance-ohio-rhetoric-theyre-eating-dogs-theyre-eating-cats/

 

I don't think it's mysterious or difficult to understand.  She explained her evolution and moderation of thought.  

On the other hand, it's literally against the law to tell inflammatory lies about an ethnic group simply because they are immigrants.  

 

toomuchbaloney said:

I don't think it's mysterious or difficult to understand.  She explained her evolution and moderation of thought.  

On the other hand, it's literally against the law to tell inflammatory lies about an ethnic group simply because they are immigrants.  

 

Democrats are always evolving,  aren't they?

Why couldn't he explain like you did?  He had three chances at it. Heck, if she has explained so well why does a program such as "Meet the Press" even need to ask the question?

 

Not a chance that was a accidental poor choice of words.  If someone on Trump's team had said Kamala should be extinguished...

She should be fired.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/harris-surrogate-secretary-commerce-gina-raimondo-says-we-should-extinguish-trump-good

Beerman said:

Democrats are always evolving,  aren't they?

Why couldn't he explain like you did?  He had three chances at it. Heck, if she has explained so well why does a program such as "Meet the Press" even need to ask the question?

 

Healthy people grow over time, yes.  

I don't know why the press ask Harris dumb questions other than they are repeating some of the questions posed by Trump's campaign. 

Beerman said:

Not a chance that was a accidental poor choice of words.  If someone on Trump's team had said Kamala should be extinguished...

She should be fired.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/harris-surrogate-secretary-commerce-gina-raimondo-says-we-should-extinguish-trump-good

Do you think that word has a narrow definition that is related exclusively or primarily to violence? 

toomuchbaloney said:

Healthy people grow over time, yes.  

I don't know why the press ask Harris dumb questions other than they are repeating some of the questions posed by Trump's campaign. 

Yes, that's what CNN known for,  isn't it?

Why in your opinion was it a dumb question?

toomuchbaloney said:

Do you think that word has a narrow definition that is related exclusively or primarily to violence? 

Do you ever recall someone using that term to refer to voting against a political opponent?  Maybe a Google search might turn up something?  Give it a shot and let us know.

Beerman said:

Do you ever recall someone using that term to refer to voting against a political opponent?  Maybe a Google search might turn up something?  Give it a shot and let us know.

Sure.  We can compare it to a presidential candidate himself taking about bloodbaths.

Beerman said:

Yes, that's what CNN known for,  isn't it?

Why in your opinion was it a dumb question?

That's a big reason that I don't pay for cable television, and why people shouldn't depend upon television to inform themselves. 

The questions are typically dumb because they are shallow and often focused upon the statements of political opponents. They are dumb because the questions are designed to generate interest in their programming rather than to inform the public about the truth.  

The truth is that Trump is a pathological liar who already tried to overthrow our government once before while he's manipulated by our enemies.  The main stream media should be warning the public not trying to find things on the other side to provide "balanced" negativity and thereby minimizing and normalizing the dangerous crazy of Trump.  

Beerman said:

You only need a picture ID the first time you vote in PA.  As you know, many Democrats believe asking for ID's after that is racist or suppressing the vote, or who knows what else.  I'm not sure why.  It seems if you have to prove your identity once to register it shouldn't be to difficult to in the future.  But I digress.

As a 50 year old, I have zero intention to committed a crime by buying a six pack of beer at Safeway.   But, they make me show a ID everytime.   I digress again.

And, as you know most of 10's of millions on the east coast don't need to travel far to visit other states.

Yeah, youre right in that a few individuals here and there probably won't make a difference.  But, you're not really thinking of the big picture.  More ballots than ever being mailed out, more new people flooding into our country than ever, it's been never easier to register and vote and to have ballots under your name some are pushing for the rules to be more and more lenient.

It's a recipe for election fraud.  Unless of course we take away so many rules that there is not reason to cheat.

 

This is from Snopes but other sites say the same thing:   Unsolicited ballots were sent in 10 states to citizens who were ALREADY registered to vote.   Multiple states have been voting by mail for years without incident.  I now, no longer, have to request for a mail-in ballot every election.  I have given them permission to mail me a ballot for every election.  Someone would have to come into my house and steal my ballot and fake my signature so, nah, the system is secure.

"In sum, while it was true millions of mail-in ballots were sent to people who did not submit applications for them in the 2020 presidential election, it was a mischaracterization of states' election laws to frame that fact as evidence of impropriety or fraud. Rather, the ballots were sent to registered voters in accordance with state laws. For those reasons, we rate this claim "Mostly False."