Status

You know what "ADNRN"............the only thing I enjoy seeing on your post thus far is the picture of that very cute doggie you use as an avatar! Go love on him/her awhile and see if your mood doesn't mellow out somewhat. Pets are known for mellowing people out when they aren't feeling well. Sounds to me like you could use a little pet attention. Have a nice day!

Paragraph 3: I agree with everything you said in this paragraph. Absolutely. And no, I don't think I'm above God--I'm a monist, I think I am God

with this one statement - you have just made yourself into a liar of everyone of your other previous posts....if you knew anything about Jesus/God/Bible or nursing - you would know that what you just said is sacreligous....

this only prooves that your posts are inflammatory and that you have nothing to contribute other than you want to argue....good day.

Originally posted by ADNRN

How we seek status. Get the LPN so that you're better than the CNA, get the CNA so that you're better than the housekeeper. Get the RN so that you're better than the LPN, CNA or houskeeper. Get the BSN so that you're better than the ADN, and get the MSN so that you're better than just the ordinary BSN. But lots of people have MSNs so leave nursing altogether and become an NP And then go for the PhD, but don't stop there! One really needs to also be a fellow of the american academy of nurses and have a national certification. But then you're going to need a job to go with all that, so go work for the government or get on some editorial board of some nursing journal, or scrounge for research dollars at a university. Whatever you do--make the big bucks, because that's how you really prove you're better than just a bedside caregiver.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about power and status--I just want the real thing. I want the power and status Mother Teresa had.

May I suggest that you speak for yourself....? Who are the "we" you speak of? WHO, exactly, is seeking status? Upon your very flawed analysis....

You seem to be the one w/issues regarding nursing, status, education and clearly, your mistaken idea that you are Christ! LOL :chuckle :chuckle

Actually, you remind me more and more of the personality type: delusional schizophrenic....hmmmm.

Your posts over the last few days have been inflammatory and troll-like. If you really ARE a nursing student, don't you have some REAL work to be doing? Like REALLY learning about nursing.

Seems like you think you already know everything you need to know about being a nurse...PUHLEEZE.

Grow up, come back after you've actually passed boards, worked through your 1st year as a REAL nurse. I guarantee you, this sarcastic, inflammatory attitude won't last long once you get a taste of the real thing ,baby!

I think your first step to becoming Mother Theresa would be to stop posting so much on this board. Somehow I don't see her as the type to be sitting around writing message board posts while she had a little more important things to do, don't you think so?

Sure ya do...

As I am still trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here....could you please explain how you first called Mother Teresa arrogant and now you claim that you want to be like her?

Many of your topics are interesting and thought provoking, but this is just so blatantly contradictory...what's up?

what a bunch of (edited for foul language ...can't stand it when someone has a thought provoking opinion......you'rre all on my edited for foul language list, 'cepting op...no wonder the only enemy a nurse has is another nurse.

Originally posted by athomas91

with this one statement - you have just made yourself into a liar of everyone of your other previous posts....if you knew anything about Jesus/God/Bible or nursing - you would know that what you just said is sacreligous....

this only prooves that your posts are inflammatory and that you have nothing to contribute other than you want to argue....good day.

I don't know. Jesus said it all the time, and then he said I should be one with him and the two of us should be one with God. Go figure. And I don't really think I hid the point that I'm a monist, given the nursing philosophy I wrote. But why should facts like that stand in the way of a good judgement of SACRELIGIOUS! Especially, when a person has run out of things to say.

Don't know what the negative aspects of money,prestige and power would be but i'm positive I don't want to be anything like mother theresa either.

I'm kind to people an all, but there's only so much kindness you can bestow on someone before it starts to become awkward anyway. Like "why is that little ol' lady still smiling at me?"....."Ok, she's still there....alright....ma'am?!.....ma'am?! .......yea you....Can you not do that please?

I don't think that taking care of the sick is worth much if you don't put some effort into it. Sure it's nice to give them some common comforts like cleaning them up and talking to them and such, but how much effort does a person have to really give to be of use to a patient in that capacity? How much personal sacrifice is really needed to prepare for an undergraduate position? It's too easy to not try to achieve some academic goals and call that sacrifice.

Let's talk about personal sacrifice.

I've gone through ALOT of classes and done some real suffering, both physicaly and emotionaly to maintain a GPA through 57 credits with another 40 to go just to get the prerequisites out of the way for the masters in PA. I've dissected numerous gross cadavers of various species, written scientific papers about mucles and mealworms, learned reams of mathematical formulas, various theories, and all of it while holding 25-30 hour work weeks.

Why am I knocking myself out over all of this? So I can some day get into a school where I will learn what to do to heal people. I will be able to go anywhere and heal the sick, ridding them of pain, anxiety and fear. I will diagnose and treat disease......and yes, I will also take pleasure in being "nice" to people. I will still be qualified to clean them up, give them a blanket, water, someone to listen to them.

So you see.........this mother theresa thing is just all talk until you sacrifice, REALLY sacrifice, your own personal comfort so you can achieve a position that will do the most good that YOU PERSONALLY can do.

If some money,prestige and title come along with it............well then, that's a reward I'll just have to live with;)

Originally posted by HerEyes73

As I am still trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here....could you please explain how you first called Mother Teresa arrogant and now you claim that you want to be like her?

Many of your topics are interesting and thought provoking, but this is just so blatantly contradictory...what's up?

I said she was innocently arrogant. And then later I took it back because I think I may have been wrong--given that I don't know her. I first based that statement on the idea that she may have believed she could serve God in some capacity. In order to think that way, one has to consider themselves a separate entity from God. To consider oneself as such, even in a subordinate position is arrogant because it assumes an independent, self-sustaining existence.

Having said all that. I have no idea what Mother Teresa believed about herself or God, so I have to take back what I said about her being arrogant. Maybe she was; maybe she wasn't. I don't know.

So go ahead and keep giving me the benefit of the doubt. I mean you don't really want to join that other choir do you? You know, the one that has me pegged as:

Monsterous

dangerous

little

ignorant

inexperienced

sacreligious

mean

untrusting

disenfranchised

jealous

troll

inflammer

schizophrenic

et cetra, ad nauseum (Can a person really be all those things?)

You do realize, I've never personally attacked anyone in here, and I never will, so by all means give me the benefit of the doubt, it's more fun that way.

Originally posted by Peeps Mcarthur

Don't know what the negative aspects of money,prestige and power would be but i'm positive I don't want to be anything like mother theresa either.

I'm kind to people an all, but there's only so much kindness you can bestow on someone before it starts to become awkward anyway. Like "why is that little ol' lady still smiling at me?"....."Ok, she's still there....alright....ma'am?!.....ma'am?! .......yea you....Can you not do that please?

I don't think that taking care of the sick is worth much if you don't put some effort into it. Sure it's nice to give them some common comforts like cleaning them up and talking to them and such, but how much effort does a person have to really give to be of use to a patient in that capacity? How much personal sacrifice is really needed to prepare for an undergraduate position? It's too easy to not try to achieve some academic goals and call that sacrifice.

Let's talk about personal sacrifice.

I've gone through ALOT of classes and done some real suffering, both physicaly and emotionaly to maintain a GPA through 57 credits with another 40 to go just to get the prerequisites out of the way for the masters in PA. I've dissected numerous gross cadavers of various species, written scientific papers about mucles and mealworms, learned reams of mathematical formulas, various theories, and all of it while holding 25-30 hour work weeks.

Why am I knocking myself out over all of this? So I can some day get into a school where I will learn what to do to heal people. I will be able to go anywhere and heal the sick, ridding them of pain, anxiety and fear. I will diagnose and treat disease......and yes, I will also take pleasure in being "nice" to people. I will still be qualified to clean them up, give them a blanket, water, someone to listen to them.

So you see.........this mother theresa thing is just all talk until you sacrifice, REALLY sacrifice, your own personal comfort so you can achieve a position that will do the most good that YOU PERSONALLY can do.

If some money,prestige and title come along with it............well then, that's a reward I'll just have to live with;)

So, you're going to be an MD? And you think that by training to be an MD, you are sacrificing so that you will be qualified to do the most good for people. Well, I think that's great. But won't you need a nurse to care for your patients after you've left the floor? I mean, you will have to leave the floor at some point won't you? Who's going to call you when your patients start to go bad?

Or do you think that all nurses should train to be MDs--ultimately?

But then who would do the nursing?

I'm not sure I follow you. I'm not sure I know why you're on a BB for nurses. Not that you can't be on this BB, but it's not really your profession--is it?

This may upset some people ...

But I'm going into nursing for the money and career stability ...

Not power, not status. Just so I can have a steady job where, hopefully, I won't get laid off or downsized without having other job options.

I'm just being honest. I ain't no Mother Teresa and don't pretend to be.

Everyone has a purpose in life. Be they housekeeper, CNA, LPN, RN, NP (also a NURSE, btw), Physician, Sanitation worker, Gas station attendant, Teacher, Bricklayer, Day care worker, etc. We are all to some degree, interdependent upon one another in this world. We rely on one another and others rely on us.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in pursing educational and/or financial improvement for oneself. There are, however, plenty of people in the world who choose to use their education and wealth for inappropriate, inhumane, immoral, selfish reasons ... people who do absolutely nothing to truly better the world.

There is also nothing wrong in accepting ones position in life and being happy with who you are, being a productive individual in the circumstances in which one finds themselves.... There are, however, people who eschew any sort of betterment, people who "want it all" without feeling the need to lift a finger to help themselves ... and who instead complain that they can't make it in the world because they're "held down" or made to feel pressured to "get ahead", "make the fast buck", "look out for #1," etc. People who are so insecure that in order to feel superior, they resort to bashing others for what they themselves feel "entitled" to without ever having truly walked the walk or done the work or made the sacrifices that it very often takes in order to be in the position THEY think they deserve to be in. People who do absolutely nothing to truly better the world.

I was once simply a stay at home mom but I never once felt "lesser." When I had my first job as a housekeeper, I never felt my job was "beneath me" because I enjoyed getting out and helping make a difference for my customers. Because I've always had an insatiable appetite for knowledge, my path eventually led me to Nursing ... and no amount of put downs from others ... no taunting or teasing about "bedpans" or "puking" or "unkempt patients" ... no comments from the misinformed that I should have taken another path in my life because Nursing "was beneath me" or "above me" has ever caused me to doubt myself or the choices I've made for my life. I KNOW a small piece of MY purpose in this world ... and neither money, power, or the sour grapes of any other poster on this board (who is so obviously unhappy with their current situation) will EVER cause me to doubt my true value to this Profession and to this world.

I intend to continue my education, to what end, I have no idea. But I will never give one ounce of credence to any individual ... no matter their station in life ... who is so blinded by their own frustrations, insecurities and paradigms that they feel compelled to put down a path they themselves have not journeyed.

I believe my quote at the end of this post says it best.