Published Jan 24, 2010
pattyrn376
118 Posts
has anyone had any issues getting security clearance. I have a friend that comissioned over a yr ago they told her the background check was ok. she was from hurricane katrina and absolutely lost everything. home car jobs. during that time her credit went bad. the past 3 yrs she has done better financially but there are still some outstanding from 2005. she did disclose this on the initial application. they have now denied security clearance. and say they are now going to court marshall her. she has no drug etoh gambling or psych issues has a wonderful son that she did not get any or minimal help with either financially or otherwise. her son graduated valadictorian. SAR citizen award with 2 yrs of college credits. any one having any suggestions.???????
hopeful_army_NP
253 Posts
That is really sad. What did they say is the reason for the court marshall? What branch is your friend in? Is she currently active duty or did this immediately stop everything for her? Has she been to an attorney?
I hope someone with knowledge of this will reply.
army reserves. she is drilling. apparently being deliquent on those bills was conduct unbecoming an officer and a detriment to the entire unit. she calls herself connan....as in obrien not the barbarien. they want all moneys paid to her back including the sign on bonus. the court marshall will have to be reported to her federal job which will cause termination. will also be reported to the board of nursing.... she is a single mom just trying to get by doing the best she can with limited. there is less than 10k of bills but on this report it has a bunch of things listed 3-4 times each. some are for the aftermath of the hurricane in 2005 and some are small medical bills left over from a catastrophic accident in 1991. and these were small amouts above what the copay was
caliotter3
38,333 Posts
I have some knowledge of the process since I managed the clearances for my unit. I am rather perplexed at the statement that they are court marshalling her for a situation that existed and that she disclosed upon entry into active duty. Normally when a service member does not obtain the required clearance or loses a clearance through due process, they are processed for discharge from the service. I never saw legal action taken against anyone for losing their clearance; only administrative action to discharge them. The security manager of her unit should be assisting her in her rebuttal to the action. I do not know why her superiors are handling the situation as they are.
Do you think it would be the same if she was active duty rather than reserves? Is it possible that everything was not disclosed in her initial applications, maybe more bills showed up later on. Should she have went to someone in her unit and made them aware that she had more delinquent bills than she originally thought? I wonder why it took so long?
her commander is telling her that if she cant get clearance then she is OUT and there would be trials. having the debt regardless of reason or when is what makes it an offense. but she knew her credit was horendous and used that word in her application
olderthandirt2
503 Posts
it sounds like something is missing with this story....
Is she 100% sure that she did not "leave a shred of information out" in the application? If they catch you with one "lie or omission"......that is servious business.
I was informed that a security clearance rep will contact you if there are concerns.....so you can have a face to face to discuss the issues. I know others on this forum had worries over security clearances, but during the interview the questions were clarified.
Did she have this? If not, go up the chain of command until she finds appropriate help.
all of her bills with in the past 3-4 yrs are current. when she lost her jobs when the hurricane hit lost her home she knew she was not in the position for a loan. she bought the car for 20k put 10k down and paid it down to about 7, since she could not afford the payments she voluntarily gave them the car. they said everything is square..she owed 7k trade in value was about 11. she never heard from them ever again. now this 7k debt is listed several times on the report. a report that she didnt even think she had access to. she has had 2 new cars since then (2005) financed them at 6pct paid 1 off and still current on the other one. there were a few very old medical bills that were above and beyond what the preferred provider was allowed to bill ins and the co-pay....as a preferred provider. there was no credit card debts, just that car and a few medical bills ranging from 12 to 230.
A thorough explanation and statement of the steps your friend has taken to clear up her finances is what she will have to provide to the Central Clearance Facility in her rebuttal to her notice. Her security manager has a responsibility to explain the rebuttal process and to assist her with her rebuttal.
aglages
54 Posts
Am I the only person reading this thread that is wondering how this "other" person knows so many financial and military details of another person's life? Why if this person needs advice, and is willing to provide so many personal details of her life on a public forum, isn't she posting herself? How hard is it to create your own account?
I'm probably just too cynical......
Also, isn't it Courts-martial not Marshall?
I assumed that the person did a lot of talking to her friend and her friend has taken it upon herself to post here to try to provide some assistance. Lots of people talk too much about their personal business.
mt_nurse
123 Posts
i just signed my security clearance paperwork. will i have to wait to receive my clearance before i can get commissioned? just wondering as this thread made me think of it. i don't go to COT until May...