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There's an ADN (RN) program that can be done in 12 months for foreign graduated medical doctors and other healthcare professionals that would like to add the credentials or switch fields. You have to be in W Palm Beach once a month to do clinicals and the didactic portion is online. Tuition is $26k (not including travel to WPB). https://www.ihpedu.com/areas-of-study/patient-care/foreign-doctor-transition-to-rn#prerequisites Institute of Healthcare Professions 2100 45th St. Suite A2A West Palm Beach, FL 33407 (561) 202-6333 I've chosen to to the BSN program through WGU. My goal is to complete an NP program and would eventually have to complete a BSN at some point. Start to completion for BSN through NP can be done in as little as 4 1/2 yrs and more cost effective as WGU is about $3500/semester. As the previous poster mentioned there are also direct entry MSN/NP programs. These are full-time and therefore not an option for me since I maintain a current practice. If I didn't have to work that might be a very tempting option. Although I'm not sure it would be a huge time saver over my current route. KO

Pretty funny and light hearted. 😀 I don't agree with the BSN/ADN comment. Earning the degree does make you a nurse. Be proud of that. Passing the NCLEX allows you to be called an registered nurse. There are doctors that do not practice and do not hold a license. They are still doctors because that is what what was conferred on the diploma from their university. KO

I'll be starting the 6/1 cohort in IN for pre-licensure BSN. It will be 2 1/2 years. I currently specialize in chronic brain-based and neurological conditions. I plan to integrate both in future practice. I'm strongly leaning towards FNP currently. But could also see great benefit from pursuing PMHNP credentials as I work a lot with attention, anxiety, and chronic pain. KO

Email me if you like. [email protected] I can give you all the info I have found and perhaps save you a couple minutes time. KO

I'm doing this exact transition currently. Through WGU I will continue to practice as a DCS while traveling to clinicals in IN and sound didactic portion online. This is the pre-licensure BSN. Then I have found several NP programs that would allow me to stay in my community to finish rotations. I already have several positive relationships with NP/MD/DO offices here and don't foresee having difficulty finding preceptors. There is also a 12 month DC (foreign trained MD, etc) to ADN in Palm Beach that requires travels once/month for 4-5 days to do clinical. Cost is $26k for the program with rolling start dates. Sit for NCLEX once program is finished. If you choose that route you can do WGU RN-BSN in 6-12 months. It's dependent on how quickly you can complete the coursework. ~$3500/semester. As others have stated, many "mainly online" NP programs, some more costly or time consuming than others. The path I have chosen should take about 4.5-5 years seeing that everything follows along nicely. KO

Hopefully this will get corrected and is not being perpetuated by the employer. I'm one of those quack chiropractors, as we are so frequently and lovingly referred to in this forum. I had an assistant send me an email with her title - "physical therapist". Heck, that was a quick educational program! Needless to say (or maybe needed) we had a meeting with the employee and office manager to explain about the meaning of a title and licensure. We then documented the training and had a little chuckle. Fortunately she had only "conferred" upon herself the degree that day, adding it to her email signature. We didn't have to do any outside damage control. Each profession has their skill set. This can be limited to the education and examinations needed for initial license. Or we can take advantage of further educational opportunities as is expected with continuing ed and other training we may pursue. ---not related to the original post. Rather, those following as well as throughout conversations on this forum--- This whole "chiros" are nuts, MDs are jerks, and PAs are (you pick it), is tiresome. These kinds of comments remind me of the same thing my wife goes through (so will I with the addition of nursing knowledge and credentials) because she's an under-educated nurse "that should only" hand out meds, take temps, and wipe backsides. She's not a BSN, NP, DNP, MD, DO, DC, PT, PA, etc. Hopefully you get the picture. Those making the comments are just folks that would rather look and speak ill of another profession than find something positive to do. Yes, there are less-than-optimal providers in all professions, at all levels. It is very unfortunate. But, negativity is just that - negativity. I'd much rather work to make sure our patients' needs are best served from every angle. But, take that for what it's worth (to you). I'm not here to convince anyone. Just the ramblings of a silly back cracker. KO

I'm curious as to how you make your assertion. How does one actually measure "shadiness"? Really, just yanking your chain. I don't really care how you qualify your comment. It's obvious that you have disdain for another profession because of your perceived reality. KO

My favorite subject! I'll list a few, with links, I like to review every now and again. No particular order. BRS Neuroanatomy Neuroanatomy through clinical cases The Human Brain: Introduction to Functional Neuroanatomy Neurological Differential Diagnosis DeMyer's Neurological Examination

It's your business so don't feel the need to respond. This is not meant to be argumentative. I'm just trying to understand. The WGU program is a competency based, pass/fail program. All the other programs list are all "competency" based. If the coursework does not meet the criteria showing you are "competent" in the material you do not pass. Conversely, if you meet their standards it is shown either by a letter or number stating such. This really is a question I would invite anyone to answer. From what I can gather, upon completion and graduation, if you're looking to go on to a graduate program your transcripts show a 3.0 gpa. Some grad programs may require more to be competitive. I guess that would be the only reason one would choose another program over this, all things being equal. If you're not looking in to a grad program, I don't see why being competent in any course and receiving the credentials would be an issue. KO

Archaic advice, in my opinion, is lazy and irresponsible. Your body doesn't read the text. It takes more than a cookie-cutter approach; that takes work. Good on you for keeping yourself in line. I'm glad you also have a supportive endo. KO

Not all carbs are created equal. For someone to throw out a certain number w/o qualifying a breakdown may be looking for failure. I agree with Allison, everyone will be different. Having said that you must look at any type of sensitivities (another discussion). This is especially important when including foods that are inherently pro-inflammatory to the general public and especially so with those having difficulties controlling BG. Call the "diet" what you like. A lot of sources are teaching old generalities without taking the newest literature into account. Decrease inflammation and increase quality and longevity of life. Generally speaking KO

You will have a background check. They will have you fill out a personal history and choose to call/interview people you list as well as people associated with previous employment and schooling. They may also run a credit check. KO

Thank you for your advice, Ozzy. You're right, the post didn't start off this way. After being chastised at my original response because I didn't know what I was talking about I felt that I needed to qualify any of my future responses. I didn't want it to seem that I was speaking without having knowledge of the subject. I appreciate your feedback. Cheers.

Sorry to return to this. But since we're correcting folks her and all, your statement of "do matter" is correct because she writes the subject as "one thing" is actually a false statement. Again, I'm not correcting her. "One thing" how you point it out in this instance refers to what in grammar is called 1st person, singular. The accurate conjugation of the verb "to do" in first person singular is "does". In my former life (before my spinal problems) I was a language arts/Spanish teacher. I liked it so much I still keep up my teaching license!

Thank you, Jess. That makes a lot of sense. Since I'm just starting the program I don't know if I fit into the "speed demon" category. So I'll keep it on the table, now seeing that what you pointed out makes a lot of sense.

I sense a little finger-wagging here. A few things to note: I never once stated that I haven't experienced this. To add to that neither did I denigrate her experience. If you go back and read my post I specifically stated that I had no knowledge of the full findings - no exam done. I was simply stating what I might (perhaps I have) done in her case. I guess to take that a step further I also did not state that I have been working in that particular field for 10+ years and have seen/experienced both positive and negative outcomes. But since I didn't mention any of that maybe I could see where I might need to be corrected. Maybe... OP, please don't take this next part as being directed towards you. I'm just using it as another potential point of clarification for the person that thought I was passing judgement on you and speaking without having any personal or professional experience. I really enjoy this forum. There are all levels of knowledge on this board. This is very evident when you take a look at the newest posts just to see what's going on in the nursing world. I like to read all types of posts because frequently I can find another angle and perhaps change my opinion on something in some fashion. That said, for those of you that have been in direct patient care have you ever had a patient either misquote a diagnosis or even been given an inaccurate dx from a provider? Going back to the part I said earlier about not having done an h&p on the OP (nurse or not) I couldn't assume the accuracy of the explanation given. As with all my patient encounters (I know this wasn't one) I prefer to do a thorough exam on all patients that walk through my doors, whether they are referred by another physician or are coming in off the streets. Two very important things in my clinic - the patient's well being and my license to continue to help people. Now, after having read your reply, OP, it's more understandable what your situation is. Also you've helped to clarify the perceived grammatical errors. I'm sorry that you're experiencing this and wish you well. I switched careers completely when I was in a similar situation and am grateful for the suggestion given by my provider to seek better answers. Prayers to you and your success. Just a little point of clarification. If that wasn't respectful I apologize because that certainly was not the intent. I'll go back to browsing again. 😉 KO

I agree. And, thus my post. KO

This is only true of they are both singular subjects. However, being that the forward slash is used between I am assuming she is meaning grammar AND spelling, which would make it a plural subject. In this case the third person plural form of the verb "to do" is correct. On the original subject of the post, if it were me I would seek out all options and a second or third opinion. To be clear, I'm not giving any tx advice. I'm just putting myself in someone else's shoes. Depending on the findings there could be many avenues to approach treatment, perhaps less invasive and equally or more effective. Once cut you cannot put back. But, that's just me. KO

There are many states (19 at last count) that allow for independent practice. I know this may be purely speculation but what are other states you've "heard" are close to adding themselves to "independent" the list? I'm doing a little research on the availability of care due to the forward thinking practice of including NPs as first-line primary care providers sans handcuffs. KO

Congratulations! KO

Just a thought - I'm not sure where you are in your schooling process. But if you have classes to take that may fulfill some of the requirements take them while you're waiting. You'll be that much closer when everything gets settled. KO

It only took a few weeks for my wife's license to transfer from GA to IL when we moved. Perhaps it was a month. It wasn't very long, though. One word of caution for what ever you decide - stay on top of them. Write down dates and follow up. The state is broke and running short-handed in many places. My DC license was smooth and quick transfer. However I have a patient whose daughter is a licensed acupuncturist. It was well over six months. Fortunately the mother happened to know one of our local state reps and made a call to his office. She had her approval in about two days! KO

It's very unfortunate that whatever experience with a chiropractor you may, or may not, have had has gotten you so upset. I understand where this might be a problem. When I was a teen I had two very horrible experiences with two different dentists. Up to this day I have super high anxiety when I go for an appointment or even taking my children for a check-up. But, perhaps you haven't had a negative experience and have based your decision on who knows what. I am currently a practicing chiropractor. I became one after being sent for relief by my physician while I was employed at the Great Mayo Clinic. Strangely enough, he was also employed there. Fortunately for me this physician was looking at me as a patient, someone who he cared for and wanted to see obtain the best outcome. His words, not mine - "go to a chiropractor. None of these drugs are actually fixing your problem. They are only masking the pain." He must be real nut-job, eh? In my practice I currently work with chronic neurological conditions. My focus is there because I gravitated to it after seeing many things that made me want to learn more and figure out. So, that's where my post-graduate and fellowship training is. I enjoy helping others where they haven't been able to find help otherwise. However, my biggest wins are those that I may not have the best answer for are able to get positive results within a great referral network I use. I have several other providers in the area who are interested in co-managing, even taking over a case when it's in the best interest of the patient. Heck, these providers (NP's included) even refer patients to my office. In case you're still following along with me I'll continue. For the past four years I have also been practicing inside an OB office that is located in one of the biggest hospitals in our area. The funny thing is that there are two physicians, one PA, two NMW/FNP's, and a half dozen nurses. The awesome things about that is we all work together to achieve the best outcome for the patient (including the baby on board). I guess it took this post for me to realize that there are folks in all areas that I may not be the happiest to deal with - frankly, I was surprised at this myopic vitriol from someone in this field. But that's what makes the world go round. I've said for many years that NP's are my FAVORITE providers because they're willing to take a step back, survey all of what's around them, and give it a good go. I guess no one can bat 1.000, not even me with my DC license. To those others that have posted negative experiences, if it's not right (or doesn't feel right) don't do it. I'm sorry for those that are taking advantage of either your credentials or the patient's trust. The Pollyanna in me wants to think that we all are seeking the betterment of humankind and that's what makes us tick. I hope that in your position you are able to move along and find providers that resonate better with your ethics instead of being on the lookout for the next big paycheck.

Has anyone done the MSN through WGU then done a post grad certificate from another school for FNP or other NP qualified program? Perhaps that would take less than the typical two to three year FNP program.

Great find. Thank you for posting the videos. KO