All Content by katyq82
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How long does it take to get ADN including prerequisites, on average?
What beekee said. The prereq's took me one full year, including summer session, because you have to take some in order (i.e. A&P I followed by A&P II). Good luck!
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NCLEX JUNE 2018
Just wanted to share that I took the NCLEX on 6/28 and passed in 75 questions! I primarily used UWorld and LaCharity.
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Per Diem Options?
Hello! I just graduated with my ASN, and will be continuing school for my BSN online this fall. I am open minded about my career path, especially in terms of my first job. I'm prioritizing finding a safe and supportive environment for a new nurse, but I want to gain skills too. In my area there are only a couple of hospitals that hire ASN new graduates. I have a job offer from a nursing home that seems like a fantastic environment and I would likely enjoy working there. However, its only 3/4 time and I would like to be working full time. I know that new grads are not generally a good fit for per diem positions, but are there any good options out there where I could pick up 2-3 shifts a month and also possibly work in a different environment to learn new things? Maybe a rehab facility, or another setting? Does that sound feasible? I would like to eventually work in a hospital setting so I like to pick up hours doing something that would strengthen my resume for the future. Another option would be to turn down the job offer and continue applying to full time jobs, but I don't think I would find a better LTC facility in my area so I would probably wait it out for a hospital based position. I would be afraid to turn down a "bird in the hand"! Advice welcome, thanks in advance! :)
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Am I making the right decision? Nurse or Sonographer?
I just finished my ASN, and my sister in law just finished an Associate's Degree in Echocardiography. Both degrees took the same amount of time, but she will very likely earn quite a bit more than I will when we both get our first jobs. Her job will likely be physically easier and definitely cleaner than mine! But on the other hand, I can go on to get my BSN, MSN, specialize, change the area of nursing I work in down the road, etc... I like the many options available through nursing. I would think really hard about what type of work environment you want, and look at the Bureau of Labor Statistics on job outlook for both options and pick the one that is best for you. Depending on the different prereqs required, you could apply to both programs if you qualify. Good luck!
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NCLEX JUNE 2018
Good luck everyone! I am taking mine next week!
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Delivering during first semester
There was a student in my class who gave birth on a Thursday and was back to take a quiz the following Tuesday! We were all like- where's the baby?!? LOL. But seriously she was a rock star and I think she also had a lot of help from family. I would request a meeting with someone from the department prior to the start of the semester (department chair, lead teacher or someone like that) and explain the situation. I think its better to talk with them ahead of time, show them that you aren't looking for favors but are looking for guidance on what you need to do to make this work. Make sure you know all the absence and repeat course policies thoroughly as you may find yourself having to repeat semester 1 if things don't work out as planned. See what you can do ahead of time as you suggested- maybe you can do a few extra clinical days with another group before the baby comes, depending on the timing, or they may have other suggestions. Have a Plan A, B, C and D. :) And enjoy this special time in your life! Best wishes for a healthy pregnancy.
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NEW GRADS
I am about to graduate in a couple of weeks, and the items you list were all taught in my nursing school- in lecture, sim lab and clinical. But I think that (as with any profession), there is a big difference between knowing these concepts intellectually and putting them into practice quickly and accurately in a real life situation. That can only come with on the job practice. I hope that more hospitals will invest in orientation or residency programs that allow new grads to practice these concepts safely. A good start would be to train and reward experienced nurses who want to precept. To answer the question, I might consider taking such a course as a new grad- but I think that many people who could use a new grad type class might not be super self-aware and reflective enough about their practice to see the value in it. It would be better coming from the employer. FYI, the NCSBN does offer an online new grad class called "Transition To Practice", but it seems to cover more abstract concepts than what you are describing.
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Failing clinical
This for sure ^ Another thing you might do is request a check in meeting with her in a couple weeks, or halfway between now and the final evaluation- once you've had a chance to show some improvement but before she will be doing the final evaluation. Just check in, ask her if she feels you have improved in the areas of concern, let her know how you think it is going, and ask her what, if anything, she would like to see you work on in the time remaining.
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My Story: Trying to move to the hospital
Aw this made me so sad to read! It might be worth considering having your husband go to per diem, you made the initial career sacrifice and it sounds like he is willing to do the same for you. Yes, it would be a change but it could be a good one. Without having been at the interview, it sounds like the hiring manager started having second thoughts about potential future scheduling problems. Its also very possible, like you mentioned, that she was concerned about your transition to the environment. At your next interview for an acute unit, you might want to stress that you thrive in a faster paced environment and give examples from the SNF that show you can handle the pace. The hiring manager might not think of the SNF as "fast paced" but you probably have a higher nurse to patient ratio and I'm sure there is some hustle involved. Trying highlighting that side of things. Another idea- would it be feasible for you to get a per diem position at the hospital to start with? Good luck!
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how many hours should I devote to studying?
You may need to put in more time studying, or what you might really need is to study in a different way. I found that when I got to semester 3 it was like a whole new ballgame, the exams were a lot harder. The cognitive level of the questions had gone up. Most of the questions in the first two semesters were at the Remembering/Understanding level, and we transitioned to having nearly all questions at the Applying/Analyzing level. This is essential because the NCLEX questions are nearly all going to be at the Apply level or higher. Remembering the facts is only going to get you half way to the answer, you need to know how to apply that knowledge to different scenarios, collaborate with other disciplines, prioritize, delegate, etc. So if you are now seeing exam questions that look really different, you might get an NCLEX study guide to use along with your textbooks. There are a few out there that give you an overview of the most important points on a topic and then NCLEX style questions for each area. Good luck!
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Cardiac question
I just saw the rest of your post... not sure if you updated it or if I missed the part about Digoxin the first time I read it. To the best of my knowledge, digoxin is not a vasodilator. It is a positive inotrope and a negative chronotrope, so it slows conduction/heart rate while also increasing the contractility- it makes the heart pump more effectively so that it doesn't have to work as hard. Stroke volume should increase while the heart rate decreases. It might be used with a vasodilator.
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Need a bit of advice, please
Since you haven't accepted the first job, I would apply for the ER externship and see what happens. I don't see why it would jeopardize the first position. If it does come up, you could always say that since you haven't received a written offer you wanted to hedge your bets and apply for a second position. But if the telemetry job offer comes through and you haven't gotten anywhere with the ER position, I would probably just take the tele one. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and all that. At least in my area, its pretty easy to transfer departments/locations within the same system, so I think that getting into the hospital system at all is well worth it. I don't know how much time you have left in your school program, but maybe you could do the tele floor position for a year and then switch to the ER as a tech. Congrats either way!
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Cardiac question
The electrical impulse (SA node and entire cardiac conduction system) is separate from the volume being pumped and from the muscular strength of the pump itself. You can run into problems with the conduction, the volume or the pump. Think of a boiler heating system that forces hot water through pipes up to radiators to heat a house. You need electricity to power the pump, but you also need a working pump to force the water up through the pipes. Problems with your heating system can be caused by a problem with the electricity (cardiac conduction), the pump (cardiac muscle), the pipes (vascular system), or a lack of water in the heating system (hypovolemia). You might find some videos online that are helpful in illustrating this concept, sometimes it can be hard to picture when you are just reading the text.
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Nursing school 1st semester BOOKS
You might want to ask the nursing department if the same books will be used in future semesters before deciding. We had to purchase a big package of books first semester, but then we used most of them all throughout the program. If its something that you'll only use for 1 semester, I'm all for renting.
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Did I make the right decision returning to school?
Some encouragement and a couple examples that I've recently gone through to share... You mentioned your other potential path was an MSW, so I am guessing you may have come from a similar career background as I have, and I also went into nursing to be able to make a more measurable impact on people's lives. This is my second career and I feel like I have a lot on the line because I have two kids, a mortgage and went down to part time at work to do this, causing financial stress for our family. There are so many different clinical settings, so I wouldn't give it up over one clinical. For an example, my first clinical and my last clinical have been on the same unit at the same hospital. The first time, I truly hated it, the nurses seemed to either be running around like crazy with a high patient load, or others seemed so burnt out that they were avoiding their patients to play candy crush at the nurses station. This semester (my last) I am in the same exact unit with many of the same nurses- the only difference is that the whole unit moved onto a new floor and they have a lower pt:nurse ratio. It is a fantastic place to be now and the nursing "behaviors" seem so different. I asked the nurses what changed and they said that now on the new floor they have what they need, they are better supported, and they have a lower patient ratio. Its a totally different place to be now. I've been on other floors that felt like the students were annoying and brushed to the side, and then others where the nurses truly wanted to teach and allowed us to learn from them. A lot of it has to do with what pressures are put on the nurses and what the management environment is. If you can even volunteer somewhere over the summer to see a different healthcare environment that might give you some new ideas. Even if you volunteered at a free clinic or as an activities assistant at a long term care facility, you would get a chance to observe the environment and the nurses. We just did a long term care rotation and there is a done of relationship development, therapeutic communication, advocacy and family interaction that those nurses are doing. In addition to, yes, passing meds as well. But in long term care, the nurse knows the patient so s/he would be there a week later to see that the dose adjustment was causing XYZ change and can advocate for that patient, whereas in the hospital you do not see those longer term changes. I am realizing that there is so much I can do with nursing that isn't on a hospital floor, that having this will be a huge asset. I would like to work in a hospital, but I am also interested in visiting home nurse, community education, public health, lactation counseling, and there are so many possible roads. I am not a good fit for psych nursing, but you may find a fit there... Basically there are lots of different options and my encouragement would be to explore a few before you walk away from nursing altogether. Good luck!! If only we all knew what we wanted to be when we grow up, this would be so much easier!
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Tips to Improve App?
Can you relocate? I do not live in California but from what I have read, the nursing programs get a lot of applicants. You might think about an Associate's Degree program as well. It would get you to the R.N. license and then you can transition right to a BSN program. With your prior B.S. degree plus the A.S.N., you probably wouldn't have to take many classes to get the BSN. Many community colleges have articulation agreements with BSN programs. Does the state school where you got your Health Sciences degree offer a nursing program? I would think you would have a better chance re-enrolling there if it is an option. Good luck!
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Is my Bachelors degree in another field useful in nursing??
I am in the same position as you, I have a B.A. and will graduate with an A.S.N. in May. From everyone I have spoken with it does NOT help to have a Bachelor's in another field as far as job considerations. It should make getting a BSN faster though!
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My best friend puts down being a nurse
Nope, she can't handle it but luckily you can! Yes patient care is an important part of nursing and I think it is sad that it is so degraded. You could say something to the effect of it being actually an honor to help someone through what might be the most difficult moments of their life and whether that is giving a med or maintaining their dignity or preventing pressure ulcers you are happy to do it. I'm in school right now and last weekend I was giving a seriously ill patient a bed bath and she started crying, expressing her fears about her new disability and what her life was going to be like going forwards. I was truly honored to hold her hand, provide therapeutic communication and be present with her during that moment. And yes, then I cleaned her backside. :) Because who needs to worry about being in a dirty brief when they are dealing with those thoughts?!? She expressed that she was used to showering every day and putting lotion on her legs daily. I was so happy that I could do that for her when she couldn't do it for herself. I'm sure your friend has some great qualities but it is shallow to think that its all about the poop. That's on her, not you.
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Time Management
I think its individualized as to what works for you... but that being said, I do feel consumed mentally by nursing school but I have other obligations so it can't be the only thing I do. I work 25-30 hours a week and have 2 kids, some of my classmates do spend 10-20 hours on a weekend studying but I just can't do that. You have to figure out how to study effectively based on how you learn. For me, making flashcards takes me a million years and I don't feel that I learn great that way, so I don't do them. I am a fast reader so I read the assigned reading ahead of lecture, if I have time I will make a concept map or study sheet on the topic ahead of time and add to it during lecture. I take notes during lecture and pay attention. I find that a lot of people in my class talk to other students or are always looking at their phones in class, you want to try to make good use of that time since you have to be there. Then afterwards I make a study sheet of the most important concepts. Get yourself a mental system and do each topic the same way- like "Patho", "Labs/Diagnostics", "Manifestations", "Nursing Interventions", "Meds" etc. for each topic and fill in the boxes with the most important stuff. If you don't have time to read everything assigned, read the key points at the end of the chapter, read any call out boxes or safety alerts and take any available quiz that the book has for the end of the chapter. Then just go back and read the paragraphs on what you didn't understand. If a certain topic is particularly tough, I watch a video and usually will draw myself a picture of what is happening in the body. That helps me make sense of it. I also watch YouTube videos while I am folding laundry to reinforce topics. I have a couple of good nursing podcasts that I download on my phone and listen to when I am driving. That way I am making good use of that time, since I have to drive a distance to/from school. I am not sure if we are allowed to link to outside resources but if it is allowed I can share the online/podcast resources that have helped me. I hope there was something helpful in there for you! :) Good luck. There is a light at the end of the tunnel!!
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Can someone help me think through this question?
So what I was told to do when faced with a question in which there is more than one correct answer is to think about what would happen to the patient if you did only what is stated in the response and nothing else. Which one would best maintain patient safety? That is your priority action. In this case I would go with B, because "stabilize the patient's oxygen level" implies that you are delivering ventilation but unlike choice A, it states that you notify the physician/get help as well. If you only did A, you might keep the pt. alive but you wouldn't be solving the problem. This is what my med-surg book says about that scenario, "If you cannot secure the airway, notify a more experienced nurse, respiratory therapist, or physician for assistance. Ventilate with a bag-valve mask. If the patient is in distress, call the Rapid Response Team for help." (Ignatavicius)
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What is a nursing concept paper
I would also clarify the instructions with your professor. When I hear "concepts", I think of major domains of nursing-- the ones that come to mind with impaired swallowing would be nutrition and/or safety. Definitely ask your professor for more guidance! :)
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What helps you to understand nursing concepts?
Real life examples from instructors, online videos are often super helpful for me. I find I have to understand the whole patho behind something before I can understand the "nursing" part of it.
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New grad RN starting salary 2017 & 2018
All Nurses does an annual salary survey: https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/2017-allnurses-salary-1108911.html - Scroll down to Compensation and there are links for additional ways to sort the data. I am still in school but from what I understand new nurses in RI are starting between $25-30/hour depending on the facility.
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Recording Lectures?
We are not allowed to record lectures unless you have a disability accommodation. I find that this is helpful: do the reading and if available, read the powerpoint ahead of time. Make notes on the material in an organized fashion that makes sense to you: concept mapping is common, an outline, or a chart with the same main categories for each topic (patho, labs, signs/symptoms, causes, nursing interventions, etc). Do this before class. Then bring it to class and use a different color pen to add specific things the instructor mentions that are not on your study sheet. You can highlight things that you did put on the study sheet but that are heavily emphasized. Also, most colleges have something like a "student success center", "tutoring center", etc.... make an appointment early on and ask for help getting the most out of your lectures. Good luck!
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Why do I dislike when people ask me question just because I am a nursing student
You could just say that you don't feel comfortable giving specific advice and then direct them to a reputable source for information and/or their doctor. If they press you, I would just say that I would feel awful if I missed something important and its best to talk with their primary care provider.