Nancy2
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I didn't get burned. I just see no value, only increassed difficulty in getting anything done. I am opposed to spending money for things I already own. I have a voice and can use it quite effectively. The union guarentees NOTHING except that it will collect my dues and spend them any way they see fit without my input. I do not agree with many of the things dues money are spent on. Especially with CNA. They just recently paid HCA RNs from all over the country to attend a 3 day workshop. All expenses paid to go to San Francisco. Private hotel rooms, lavish meals. A friend of mine went ans said "we feasted!!" I don't want to pay for other prople's vacations when I barely get my own every other year. Its much deeper than having been burned once...
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This is a ploy to uncover my identitiy. The CNA knows me well. I don't think I will continue this line of questioning? Suffice it to say, I have worked under a CNA collective bargaining agreement. Next question?
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CNA. SEIU and RNPA. All in California from the mid 80s to late 90s. Thankfully since 2001 I have not had to work in a union hospital
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In my experience, the union makes it's own rules for how "votes" go. Be it for contract ratification or for strike authorization. I have never seen a union do a public counting of ballots like the NLRB does. They count the ballots in private behind closed doors and the outcome is always what the union wants!! "The employees overwhelming voted in favor of..." I fought the battle to try to be invovled. Unions are not a democracy! He who counts the ballots wins!
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What on earth is AONE??? I oppose unions in hospitals because I have lived with them, have lived through strikes, negotiations, etc. Unions can negotiate little that I dont already have with existing laws. It makes hospitals more in the business of focussing on the union and the contract than on taking care of patients. Hospitals exist to take care of patients and the community not people who just want to milk as much as they can from an employer through a union that wants to milk as much as it can from the members
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The "working nurses" are the ones who filed the petition and want CNA/NNOC out of their hospital. Why can't you accept reality?
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This Hospital had a decertification election for which the votes have yet to be counted. The NLRB has recently decided that part of the "Election Process Agreement" was illegal. Once that has been rectified, we will see if the Nurses at this hospital shoose to remain union after "trying it on"
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I certainly would NOT call them conservative! Why Not Texas, Mississippi or North Dakota? Me thinks they don't want to hear from EVERYONE. Well picked for preaching to the chior
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Couldn't he have picked at leaste ONE conservative state? I guess he didn't really mean it when he said he would be bipartisan!
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Doesn't hurt me...hurts CNA:redpinkhe:redpinkhe:redpinkhe:redpinkhe http://calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=2f75f21d-194d-4567-bd34-58624ddd6417
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Well that's just like CNA to misrepresent the truth! yes, they probably did get cards signed prior to the election. Maybe even 60%. But, when the nurses were educated by their PEERS about what the union really spends dues money on and their Anti Catholic agenda, THEY CHANGED THEIR MINDS!! Which was apparrent by the VOTE!!! EFCA is the biggest assault on America ever! The secret ballot is a main stay of American culture and should be preserved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Finally!!! The election date is set for Augusy 27 and 28. I hope the California Nurses Association listens to the nurses' NO VOTE this time. How long can they drag this rejection out?
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California Nurses Association is delaying a long awaited re run election for Inland Valley Medical Center RNs. In October of 2006 the nurses at Inland Valley voted to no longer be represented by the CNA after they were unable to negotiate a contract for almost 2 years. After that election the CNA filed objections to the election and a new election was to be set after the Hospital posted a "notice" written by the NLRB for a period of 60 days. Those 60 days were to be over on July 7. At the last minute the union complained that the NLRB gave the hospital the "notic" in the WRONG FONT SIZE. They now want the hospital to keep it posted until July 20. The nurses just want a chance to vote again and finally be done with this and the union is stalling, dragging and delaying!!! What is te point of ll this? Do they think they are scoing any points with these nurses? NOT!!!
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I think you have a great question! When I was a student nurse, I was the vice president of my student nurses association and very active in legislative efforts in healthcare throug this. When I became an RN I initially worked for a hospital where the RNs were represented by a union. It had been in lace for some time and it was a public hospital. I worked there for 15 years. I then moved to another city and went to work for another Hospital where the RNs were represented by a union. According to that contract even though I had 15 years of experience they were unable to pay me higher than if I had only 10 yrs. I was forced to work every holiday because I had the leaste seniority. I was the only one in my department with small children. I tried to talk to the union rep and they were unresponsive. I tried to talk to my manager and she said her hands were tied by the union contract. When I got my first evaluation, I had the highest scores on everything. I had highest patient satifaction rate, highest productivity and the highes rating by the physicians we worked with. However, I got the same wage increae as everyone else because that was what was negotiated by our "exclusive representative". I have since left that hospital and refuse to work in another "union" hospital. I prefer to negotiate for myself and to be rewarded for my excellent care. I have NEVER had a problem advocating for my patients!! With or without a union, that is my duty and I fulfill it well. If I need a union, then I'm in thewrong line of work!!!
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In California it is unlawful to combine breaks and lunch periods. I have worked in some units that have allowed this and then the manager got nailed for violating state law! The problem falls squarely on whatever the union negotiated into the contract. If your union agreed to terms that are more restrictive than state law, then you have to live with this until the contract is negotiated again. Perhaps you can try to get on the negotiating team next time...
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Good opportunity for a response from good nurses: "nurses know they earn less and patients suffer when bureacrats run hospitals." Only a left wing trade union run by a non nurse and ex teamster would propose to saddle American families with a health care model that leaves nurses underpaid (and fleeing their countries to come work in ours!") and patients waiting in lines for months for services most Americans walk in and schedule a week ahead of time, and claim that's progress. How many foreign nurses come here from socialized government run health care systems like CNA advocates? Tens of thousands every year. Now, how many nurses leave America to work abroad in such systems? Do you know anyone - we don't! As Ronald Reagan said "if communism is so good, why to they have to build walls to keep people in?" He spotted what left wing trade unionists' like Markowitz missed: people vote with their feet. Our system has flaws, but people come from all over the world to get care in the US. They leave socialized ("single payer") systems for our care, and nurses leave those countries to work here. Why? Because our system works worse than theirs? Or because it works better? If the unionized bureaucrats take over health care they'll run it like... Well, like UMC in Las Vegas and RFK in LA - government run hospitals with unionized public employees where wages are lower than non union private hospitals down the road, and care is so bad at RFK patients jump off stretchers and run away, while the hospitals bleed millions of tax payer dollars in red ink every year. If the union wanted to fix healthcare, they would address junk lawsuits that cost every patient, doctor and nurse money every year by taking dollars that could be spent bedside and diverting it to trial lawyers. The union opposes tort reform, which benefits no one but rich trial lawyers, who can already afford the health care "paw paw" can't. That costs hospitals and doctors more and more in insurance costs every year - costs that come right out of our pockets if we pay for medication, office visits or insurance. Who pays the costs of junk lawsuits? You do. Every time you buy medicine or medical supplies, and every time you pay an insurance premium which went up because of last years' junk lawsuits. When the union can point to costs that it helps hold down on the hospital, then it has standing to complain about healthcare costs. When they suggest one work rule that costs the hospital less and not more and improves productivity rather than just requiring more people longer to do the same job, then they may be more credible. Until then, let's call it like it is: NNOC is the radical left wing CNA trade unions' Trojan horse to socialize our healthcare system so it gets more members and more dues - not a voice for "reform." Change is fine as long as its an improvement - socialized, unionized, bureacratized healthcare is change no one can afford- including "paw paw."
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yes. This is quite legal. In fact, it would be ILLEGAL for management to support a union. New managers or managers who have never had any exposure to the National Labor Relations Act may be unaware and could find themselves in trouble for supporting a union in that position. I don't think it is intimidation just education.
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Best Wishes to all the nurses who KNOW they already have a voice! Fight the good fight!!
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I used to work for a registry in California. about a year after the ratios went into effect 1:5 for med/surg. I was assigned 7 trach patients with G tubes. The nice thing was that none of my patients were on vents (because I was registry) They were really scrambling for RNs that day. You can staff for ratios, but when you get sick calls and can't find anyone to come in...the patients still need to be cared for! We suck it up and do the best we can just like we always have. "mandated" means nothing. There is no punitive action taken for being out of compliance. I have been a nurse for 24 years and in my experience, some days are hard and some days are not s hard. Nursing is just that way. There is no magic number and "at all times" is unrealistic in the living world of healthacare! JMO Good luck with your paper!
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St. Rose, Desert, Valley UMC are all union (SEIU) Why are you asking?
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I have worked in many CA hospitals since the "ratio law" has gone into effect. I have a regular job at Long Beach Memorial where CNA has done nothing but make it harder for RNs to be cohesive and work together...but that isn'twhat I want to talk about. In almost every hospital I work (through registry) we are working outside of the ratio. If you don't have enough nurses, the charge nurse is taking assignments, can't find any more registry nurses...what do you do????Send the patients home? NO! We continue to take care of them. I take pride in what I do. I am a professional. I have never felt that my nurse manager wanted me to provide subpar nursing care, I have never had a nurse manager that put the budget before good patient care...but there are times when we just can't find another nurse to work and we make the most of it! I have a very good friend who is a nurse in Texas and she asked me about the ratio law. I told her that it looks good on paper, but most hospitals find themselves outside of the ratios quite often, especially for breaks. I explained to her that there are absolutely NO TEETH in the law. Nothing happens to the hospital all they do is "report to the department of health" I was told by the department of health that they are no longer taking these reports because there are so many and they can't do anything about it anyway. So, for people who think that this ratio law is the best thing since sliced bread...think again. In practice it really isn't any different than before the ratios, except we see ERs close more often and it's much harder to admit patients from the ER. I'm glad that I didn't give any money to this cause. Really, all it has turned out to be is PR for CNA.
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You can find out how they spend their money through the Department of Labor. The form they file is called an LM2. You can call and they will tell you how to look it up on their web site...Good luck! It's really very interesting...most unions spend less that 2 dollars ayear on per member on contract negotiations and greivance adjustment...the rest goes to lobbying and organizing new members etc...