OhioRN1234

I decided not to pursue my NP. I felt and still do feel that I was unworthy and terrified of the unknown. The 'monitoring' program is necesssary with nursing. I needed help and had I not been forced into that program I could have ended up a lot worse. HOWEVER... it was the most humiliating, demeaning, expensive, hateful group of people I have ever dealt with. I can understand their burnout and mistrust with the group they are in charge of. The fact that the board couldn't and wouldn't tell me if I would be forced into monitoring again for pursuing higher education or obtaining prescribing abilities told me what I needed to do. Walk away because my heart and soul couldn't tolerate being treated as the scum of the earth again. My license now is free and clear as an RN with disciplinary history. I work at a wonderful place with great coworkers. Sorry about the rant.. LOL

You would think this is the case, and I hope it would be. However, those of us who made mistakes and went through monitoring know that it is designed to make you fail. The BON is not there to help the fallen nurse, they are there to protect the public. If doing that means those of us who made mistakes are eliminated from the field I think they are happy to see that outcome. I earned my punishment but I did not earn a lifetime of shame, self hatred, and the fear to move onward and upward. Yet.. here I sit sick to my stomach to sign up for classes because I just don't have anymore fight in me. Begging for preceptors, liability insurance, pleading to take the certification as everyone else is able to, and then trying to find a job. A job not only as a new grad but one with a history that is public and will forever follow me.

This is exactly what I am afraid of. The school is not known for helping find preceptors and I will always be the leper. I was in NP school when this started. Two classes left with clinicals with a 3.9 GPA. I am just so tired of the hurdles and feeling like a loser who doesn't deserve to be where I am. I appreciate you sharing your story.

I have a clean background thankfully. I would have no issues with a background check. Never had a positive test. I was too honest and did I ever pay for it.. The only mark or evidence of my issue is attached to my nursing license. As a RN I am allowed to administer narcotics and have no restrictions. Of course the board won't tell me if this would affect an APRN license, dea, or ability to test upon finishing. I could go through all of this schooling to get nailed with another monitoring program. I can NOT go through the humiliation of that ever again. It was the worst experience of my life. I deserved what I got but I will never allow myself to sink to that level of self depreciation ever again. I am so torn right now..

I have no convictions or felonies thankfully. I think licensing would be OK honestly, maybe they will put me back into some monitoring hell but I imagine I could be licensed. Someone taking a chance on me for preceptorships.. jobs.. those are my first hurdles.

Just that I have a history of discipline. Which is viewable to everyone and will never go away. All my documents about what I did, when, my punishment, my release, etc. I admitted to using THC, no evidence of diversion. I did email the BON and was basically told "We don't know, apply for you APRN license when able" They will never give clear answers to someone like me unfortunately. When I view the licensure application I am able to fill it out without any hiccups as far as I can tell. It has language like "Other than this board of Nursing have you ever..." obviously they will know of the history. My advisor has never had someone with discipline attempt to further their degree.

Hello everyone, I have been accepted into NP school as a nurse with prior discipline history on my RN license. I have no restrictions but do have a black mark on my license. I have always dreamed of a higher education but am very concerned about finding preceptors, licensing, and finding a job. My acceptance letter states that due to my history finding preceptorship is not guaranteed. Understandable of course. No one can give me any guidance or advice really.. I suppose I am looking for advice. Would you take someone like me on to precept? Would your office allow it? After years of discipline I am jaded and used to having doors shut to me. Hearing yes is foreign and quite frankly uncomfortable.

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I was told I would have to check in daily. If in the hospital or just delivered I had to provide a sample... No guidance on how that would be done or handled. I would have been afraid of a positive even for prescribed medications.. We have two kids and the whole ordeal took six years. I feel like I am too old now. My mistake literally cost us another child. I could NOT handle the thought of going through that hell during a pregnancy. Absolute joke and I am still disgusted.

Do you have restrictions on your license? I reached out to a company to see what they would say as this is a concern to me as well. This is the reply I got. Its pretty vague and unhelpful. I am terrified of even going back to school to have to face this junk... "Thank you for contacting Nurses Service Organization at www.NSO.com regarding your professional liability insurance. Please accept our apology in the delay of our reply. You may complete the attached application and fax back to our New Business Department via 800-758-3635. Per the attached application there are underwriting questions. You would be required to submit additional information pertaining to any open claims or if you are aware of any claims at this time. Our underwriters will review all information submitted with your application and advise if approved or declined. On behalf of NSO we want to thank you and all of your nursing colleagues for everything you are doing to fight this pandemic and care for our patients -be safe. Should you need further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us at [email protected] or at our toll free number 1-800-247-1500 weekdays between the hours of 8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Eastern Time."

I would read some contracts online and see for yourself what they own. You have no rights when your in monitoring. You grovel and keep your head down and pray nothing crazy happens or they decide to single you out. After waiting three years to get my contract and three more to get through the hell, they owned my life. It was the most dehumanizing, embarrassing, expensive, awful experience of my life. Mine was public and in Ohio which is another animal. Whatever state your friend is in sounds too good to be true. I fervently hope I am wrong.

The loss of rights is essentially signed yes. If I were to have withdrawn for example, I would surrender my license and be reported to the OIG. Forget getting a license in anything again. Massage therapy, dental, etc. Any licensing body will not touch you. If I were to have gone to a therapist, I would have been REQUIRED to give them the contract and the board full authority to request any and all information from that therapist. There was no protection. Handing that paperwork to my dentist was humiliating. A really good look at the contract would tell her what she signed up for. In Ohio for example they are written with such ambiguous language the board probably owns our souls too. Lawyers who have reviewed them are appalled at what we sign. There is very little to no room for negotiating or altering them in anyway. Nurses who are admitted for psych issues, suicide attempts, or reach out for help are punished. Severely at times. Just as those who stole drugs or fell into illicit use outside of work. As for a civil rights case, we signed the contract. Our license is given to us as a privilege not a right. Along with that privilege comes expectations and if you break them the board or their equivalent monitoring agent owns us. For example: If I went to the er: med report along with doctor contact information within 24 hours. I was terrified of being hospitalized. New job: consent agreement given before accepting work, super fun during the interview. You have to walk out and send an email before accepting employment. reports by my boss every quarter. Any time you contact you monitor you better confirm in writing that they got it, if you didn't YOU are out of compliance. Drug test login daily: all self pay; blood, urine, hair, nails. No leaving the country: No testing sites, I missed my brothers wedding. Let them know weeks before a vacation to be told where to test: got selected to drug test nearly every vacation. Better make sure the girl at the lab does your drug test correctly, if its wrong its considered positive. You are out of compliance. Nothing like finding a testing site to observe you urinate during a pandemic. I really hope your friend has an easier time and less of a hellish solution. So many nurses sign up for these programs to do the right thing and are punished severely.

If thats the case than it sounds like she is very lucky. I have never heard of any of our information being 'protected' illegal activity notwithstanding. We have lost all of our rights to personal health information or the rights that come with healthcare/addiction/mental health issues. She needs to have a lawyer look at this very closely. Every situation like this that I have heard of results in them being reported to the board and any chance of getting through this nightmare with no public discipline are totally gone. Ohio doesn't even allow for self reporting people to go through a program where you can have no public record unless you get into their 'alternative to discipline' program which accepted 15-20 people last year. out of hundreds and hundreds. What a joke.

Everything I have read is that if you leave you can/will be reported to the OIG list. Once you sign you are stuck. Unless you fine with being reported and surrender. I hope I am wrong here. Anyone else have info?

Addiction treatment is still largely punitive in this country. Addicts are treated as less than, sub human, and undeserving. Even though all research shows continuously what they need to recover is the opposite. The easiest thing to do is make this nearly impossible for us trouble makers. When we quit and give up or simply cannot comply with the insane requirements, and they feel safer. They have 'protected' the public. I have watched the videos of their meetings, we are case numbers given 5 seconds of consideration. We are the thorn in their shoe. Easiest to pull it out and toss to the side.