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Can you guys walk me through what happened? The process of going from single state back to compact? I'm in Texas and thought it would be automatic ? What do you need to do (if anything?) and how long does it take/ THANKS!

Hppy - Can you tell us more about the incidental exposure process? I'm waiting test results and with Winter, chapped hands, hand sanitizer, omicron etc. I'm terrified. What is the process after a positive test result?

WVNurse2020 - any update? I'm new to a year long of monitoring and have been really struggling with the urine - 1st one was dilute, next negative, 3rd "value out of range" I think I've become sooo scared of water before testing. Hoping to find the right balance soon. Any feedback about your interactions with your CM / testing repercussions for these "non-negative" results. So far (1 week) I haven't heard from my CM for "value out of range" and I haven't been tested again ... ? DistressedRN - what state was your program in? I truly have no idea how to read my CM. she seems wonderful, but I'm so fearful of the whole "gotcha" angle of things ? Support and specifics appreciated. Feel free to private message me as I would love to talk about testing specifics.

What ended up happening here? (VERY interested! I'm at the start of my journey but already feeling like I'm in a similar boat.)

Who was your case manager?

So kind of you to post this!

Can anyone talk to peth and hand sanitizer? The warnings are freaking me out (and I don't have the option to avoid it in my current job). If I don't ingest alcohol but use hand sanitizer very frequently at work, will I be able to pass the tests? Real talk / true life experiences please (AND THANK YOU!)

My job requires CONSTANT hand sanitizer; can anyone talk to regular clinical use of hand sanitizer and peth?!

YES TO EVERYTHING HERE! I'm in the midst of my drama but when I am finished with the whole ordeal I intend to be vocal about it!

emergencynurse2011: what state are you testing in? what is the program called (if you don't mind) what labs can you use? and what are the longest testing center hours at the locations available to you? THANK YOU!

bboy45, what state are you in? what were the longest testing hours at the sites available to you? what program / track were you in that was 2.5 years? I'm asking all these questions because my mind jumps to worst case scenario, and I've read some horrible things about case managers ... and what if I have a super bogus one? BUT I CAN'T LET FEAR DRIVE MY DECISIONS and your response is totally right, so thank you! THANK YOU for addressing hand sanitizer! very helpful! I'm sure once I get in a groove things will be fine. kind of wish I could take a baseline test before signing my contract ? this is all super helpful! I will pay it forward to nurses down the road once I get my taste at the program

HELP re: hand sanitizer! Texas TPAPN EEP says if we use hand sanitizer we risk testing positive for alcohol. I do NOT have an option to NOT use hand sanitizer at my job. Any word from people here that have clean tests but are still living life as a normal nurse? The other day I was pulling up some ativan and some got on my hand, etc. I don't want to live in fear that these tests are so psycho-specific I'll get in trouble for kissing a boy that just had a drink etc. I can 100% stay drug and alcohol-free but all the horror stories are making me consider just surrendering my license. I don't want to fear having a perfume sample bust me. Real talk please from someone that works in a hospital/floor setting. THANKS!

I TOTALLY hear you with "wanting to move on with your life" and I DO! I will jump through WHATEVER hoops but I just feel like the logistics could create even more problems, if that makes sense. you've been so helpful and so kind to me, I'm going to shoot you an email here in a bit. THANK YOU!

WOW! I totally hear everything being said here! Would love to talk. What are testing logistics? I travel frequently - Are there sites EVERYWHERE I can go to? How far do I need to be driving. What if I need to test on a 7a-7p work day, etc. Agreeing to a year of testing is one thing but am I also agreeing to staying at home in the same town for a year and quitting my job so I can jump through hoops? Do you get what I'm saying? I just can't agree up front to something that I don't know what I'm agreeing to. ALSO: I find the official hand sanitizer stance REALLY unethical. I know it's a CYA thing but pressuring nurses to not use a facilities' readily available hand sanitizer is NOT COOL! There are few sinks on my floor and we have to sanitize before going in and out of patient rooms and this is audited with the hall cameras. THE.FACT.THAT.TPAPN.MAKES.ME.WORRY.ABOUT.THIS.IS.GROSS but YEAH: any insight from someone that's dealt with the program would be awesome! THANKS

My lawyer can't get any of his former clients to talk to me, I believe he's not actually asking or trying. I understanding guarding information when it pertains to the board or public (like in a forum like this) but once this situation is resolved for me, I am looking forward to being open about it to help others

WOULD LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT EEP EXPERIENCES! I can 100% comply with the no drugs / alcohol but the logistics of the program have been giving me migraines and I am loosing sleep. If there is anyone that has done the program I would love to talk! (And take you out to dinner in the future at some point, teehee) THANKS and much love to everyone that's posted Candy6558 I would LOVE to be put in touch with your friend! I believe I can send private messages once I have a few more posts. I'll send your my contact information then. It would be a HUGE HUGE help

Did you end up doing EEP? I need help from someone familiar with the program. There's a lot of red flags that scare me and I'm afraid I'm walking into a trap. Thanks in advance for any guidance.

Sorry for everyone dealing with this ******** but yeah I have a lot of questions and there are only old threads about EEP TPAPN and so forth so hopefully I can get some people to see this and revive the convo with my current questions. In desperate need of guidance / answers!

Bethany69 I would love to talk to you about this!

Would love to chat with anyone here! This is the most relevant thread I've found for my specific needs.

TXStrong, thank you so much for your help here! I don't like having to agree to a program where there isn't upfront info about it's logistics, if that makes sense. I want to know I can succeed. So: What drug testing facilities CAN be used? Are there options everywhere in the U.S.? I don't always have a car. I work the 7A-7P shift. So let's say I get notified to test on a day when I don't have a car, am working, etc. Worst case scenario could I uber to an urgent care clinic, pay whatever fee to drug test there and have that count? That's where my head is out. How can I succeed. Also, I'm not sure if you're aware but TPAPN's official stance is that nurses that use hand sanitizer risk testing positive for alcohol. THIS.IS.CRAZY.UNETHICAL. we all know sinks are a luxury (and I actually can't do this at my location). I would hope testing parameters would account for normal products. I WON'T take any risks and this dumb "cover your ***" stipulation on their part is another reminder that the program is about NOTHING it pretends to be. Anyone done TPAPN and used the hospital provided / normal healthcare levels of hand sanitizer? THANKS IN ADVANCE TO ALL

How do you talk / message directly on allnurses? I'm new here but need to get some info about EEP from people that are in it or have done it. I am in a super dumb situation and YES got a lawyer but it's looking like it will be a waste of money. I'm happy to prove innocence with a testing and even giving up alcohol but there are so many crazy rules that don't make sense and are actually unethical (NO HAND SANITIZER?!? WOW! #PANDEMIC ... also, sinks are like not a thing anymore and my hospital audits our use of hand sanitizer when we enter and exit rooms by randomly picking footage from the hall cameras etc. etc.) ... Just want to know if I am going to turn one questionable drug test (the reason why I'm in this situation) into MORE questionable tests if the testing requirements are totally insane. Does that make sense? I can 100% stay away from drugs and alcohol for a year (alcohol will be strange but I know I can do it) BUT I am so scared by how delusional and unreasonable they are I don't know if this is more like a trap and I should surrender my license. REAL TALK HERE! Any guidance would be appreciated!

Love to talk about EEP with someone that's in it or done it. Please help!

I have questions about TPAPN's EEP Extended Evaluation Program. Specifically, logistics like collection site hours / locations and hand sanitizer use. Anyone successfully complete the program or currently in it? And love to everyone reading this! ❤️

punky - i wouldn't worry, i haven't heard anything, no interview invite, etc. and i have 91 TEAS (that's 99th percentile) & 3.8 GPA.