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So he good news is... I passed/ :pumpiron: Now I need to find anew hobby. Good luck to the rest of you. dave

So here it goes... 108 questions, the machine shuts off and I want the question back...Time out I think I said...but the blue screen of death was staring me in the face. Then they have the gall to ask me to fill out a survey...:trout: No calculations, a few drugs, a few Psych, a few Peds, a few maternity, A few basic Med/Surg, the rest Priority and therapeutic communications. I graduated with a 3.75 and won lots of awards in the process. But nothing prepared me for this test. I knew most of the questions...but the answers I wanted just weren't there. Not sure what to think. I am not the negative, "oh my God I failed type", so I will hold that thought but I really don;t have a whole lot of confidence after 2 hours of scratching my head wondering where I went wrong. I only graduated 4 weeks ago and other told me I was rushing, but the truth is nothing I was studying or planning on studying would have changed much anyway. 48 hours and we will see. I wish those of you who already passed the best of wishes and those of us that are waiting to find out the patience of some friendly saints. dave

No math at all but you might want to start practicing memorizing some 10 - 12 syllable words... :chuckle

So why are you still here? You claim to hate it so much, why not go to another site. I think AOL has some chat rooms for people who just wasted years and money on something they really hated.

Thank you, thank you very much

...out how to solve your problem there are millions of parents, with millions of dollars, all over the world that will hire you to solve the same problem in their home. Now I know that is not what you want to hear but the fact is it is true. YOU CAN NOT MOTIVATE HIM...did I say that loud enough? Let me try again, YOU CAN NOT MOTIVATE HIM! I am not yelling at you, but with you. My son is 18, bright as a shooting star, but lazy and sloppy and all the things that make us bad students. While it hurts to watch him flounder, 1) he may really not like nursing school, 2) he may not be mature enough to handle nursing school 3) he may not be ready to handle college at all. He will not "do it" because you want him to and he is to young to know what is the best thing for his future. My daughter is a senior in high school. She already has applications into 4 or 5 four year nursing programs around New York State. She will do it, becuase it is what she wants to do. She is highly motivated. My son on the other hand, graduated high school and wants to take a year off to "hang out". Both came out of the same womb and were raised by the same parents with the same rules and motivating factors. So now that I solved all of your problems, how do I motivate my son? Good luck, let him figure it out on his own. It is ultimately the only way. dave :)

with previous posts... But to be certain, I would call you nursing school and ask. If explained as you did here they can give you a definate answer. Good luck with your husband...sounds tough. dave :)

Yes I took Psych and yes we did this skill. We just called it a therapeutic communications assesment. They are very time consuming and a pain in the butt. Writing out a complete conversation and then analyzing it is not easy. If I remember correctly mine turned into mostly a work of fiction just to do it corectly.

what is a process recording. Not something we do at my school.

What we do for the new students is run a "Meet and Greet" Night. It takes about an hour and we make it mandatory through the school of Nursing to fulfill one clinical requirement for the semester. They do not have to attend this meeting just one of them. Most come to this first meeting since they are very excited to get started. We introduce them to the officers, and the SNA. A few professors show up and get an intro as well. For the last two semesters I have given a very thorough introduction to the program and there requirements for their first semester. I talk about lectures, drugs, exams, clinicals, skills tests, uniforms, assessments, cultural papers. If they have to do it in their first semester I cover it. It is a very well recieved program. I wish they did it when I started. Anyway, it helps introduce us to them and them to us as upper classman and helps to recruit new members. Maybe something like this would work for you... By the way, no need to apologize. We are all here to help each other and sift through each others bad days, bad moods and sarcasm... Have a great long weekend, dave :)

I am not making fun of your association. 1. I am, as I mentioned the vice president of our local SNA chapter. 2. I am a National SNA member. 3. I am the Hudson Valley Regional Director and Associate Publisher of our Newsletter for the New York State Student Nurses ASssociation. 4. I have attended the National SNA Conference last year in both Daytona and Salt LAke City and am schedule to go to Kentucky in November 2005. 5. I run our local SNA's Blood Drive and Blood Pressure screenings. I never made fun. If you read my post it says that I can not believe you need posters to get elected. We need to beg people to take these posiitons and then do the job properly. And while I am proud to be a member of the SNA which is a pre-professional association, if you look at your SNA charter at your College it is classified as a club. Nothing more and nothing less. It is one of my irritations that the SNA is considerd the same as the Gardening Club or the In and Out Club (which represents gay and lesbian students) in the eyes of our school when we actually do a lot for the community, and contribute on a State and National Level in our Nursing cause. (and before I get attacked, I love gardening and am not knocking gay and lesbian students, clearly pointing out an obvious difference in the purpose of our clubs). Perhaps you need to re-read my post and laugh with me...I was not laughing at you as much as you may think. By the way...good luck in your SNA endevours. It has opened many doors for me in both my schooling and future career options. Once again, good luck and have a great semester, dave :)

having spent 4 weeks at ground zero after 9-11 doing search and rescue and then burying 42 freinds and associates, I can honestly say that I am in shock sitting here right now watching all this on TV. If I could, I would be there in the morning to help out. If anyone knows anyone down there who needs a temporary place to run away, my wife and I would be happy to host a family in our home until things get better. They just need to get to New York State. I am usually full of sarcasm and humor on this site...I am in awe of mother nature's fury right now...

:rotfl: your kidding right...campaign posters. They had to beg me to be vice-president and our president didn't know we were nominating her. Not laughing at you, just surprised to here so much hype about a club election...

Just a lowly ASN...:chuckle Don't get hung up on what I said about A's versus C's... My major point was that NS is tough for several very good reasons. There are some, and maybe it is the 10% you refer to (however I think it is more) that seem to just get by with lots of excuses. I study with several C+ to B students and I think they are going to make excellent nurses. My comments about the A vs. C was directly attacking the all to frequent comment on this board that "C students usaully make better nurses than A students". I just don't get that mentality at all. It takes hard work, compassion and yes smarts to be a good nurse. If you are a smart C student so be it. Anyway, enough said...my intention is never to offend anyone just pointing out some of the obvious as I see it in my rose colored glasses. Now let me get back to studying. :chuckle Have a great day all. Dave :)

While your situation for that lower grade might have been justified, there are many that are not. I am friendly with most of my professors and am amazed with the crap they hear from struggling students. The funny thing is that the students must think the professors don't talk, because the same students give the same crap excuses every semester to different professors. In most cases the excuses are just that...crap. Unfortunately the school has to play the numbers game. And over many years the numbers don't lie. They just are what they are. I hope you have a great semester, whatch what you eat...:chuckle Dave

If you do well all semester why would you worry about failing the final. We need a C+ or 75% to pass our classes. 74.7% does not round up to 75%. A lot of people have a problem with this also...I don't get it...And I love the whole "the best nurses aren't always the best students" crap. Do I need to remind you that in order to be the best nurse you first need to pass the big test...Your school and professors have one goal, whether it be selfish or not, and that is to get everyone to pass the NCLEX exam. You can be the best clinical nurse but if you can't get a 77% on the final then there is a good chance you won't pass the NCLEX. The numbers and statistics are in the schools favor. That my friends is why nursing school is so tough. First, because not EVERYONE is cut out to be a nurse, and second because not everyone is smart enough to be a nurse. Sounds like a tough statement but think about it...peoples lives are in your hand 12 hours a day. They see their Doctor who has at least 12 years of college and medical school in his pocket for 5 maybne 10 minutes a day. The rest of the time you, with your 2 years of community college are in charge of life and death decisions. Am I getting my point across. It shouldn't be easy. Do you want your nurse, God forbid you are ever in a life or death situation, to be the one that your school felt sorry for; the one who just got by because they were compassionate or caring. Or would you want the nurse who excelled? The one who took things seriously enough to stay up late and spent weekends making sure they didn't get a 76% on the final? Once again not being mean, just pointing out some of the reasons why nursing school should be hard and demanding. Even if you want to bring in the financial aspects of nursing. What other two year degree "gaurentees" you a license to make $100,000 a year in some markets with some overtime. I will get off my soap box. But since I live with a nurse of 27 yeasr and have many friends who are already nurses, I have known many good and bad nurses. The one thing the good nurses all have in common is they love being a smart, thinking nurse. I want to believe this ideal started in nursing school when the difference between A's and C's mattered. Good luck to you. As I started out saying...if you can get good grades all semester, the final will be a piece of cake. Dave

regarding missing clinicals. If they did not have such a policy, people would be missing clinicals left and right for lots of "good" reasons. The school certifies that you have had a certain number of clinical training hours every semester and this plays into their certification. It is not their policy as much as it is State mandated. If you can not reschedule with INS, then start working... Good luck, Dave:)

To ever effect another students perfomance, success or failure. I am a straight "A" student and sometimes, due to sensory overload, I have a hard time remembering things that I should know. My wife is a nurses for 25 years and she will be the first to tell you that since everything and everybody is so specialized today, you can not take a nurse with many years of experience and move them from Peds to Oncology. Why not??? Because they just don;t remember the critical information. Now with all that said, while in school this should all be right there for us to grasp...there are at times so much information is being absorbed that the old stuff is difficlut to get out. Trust me, or ask your profesors...I beleive this is normal to a centain extent. Just another opinion. Perhaps she isn't quite as bad as you think. And maybe she is...let someone else more qualified decide. Now...does anyone know what an Obligant Nasal Breather is??? dave :)

Tequila and Beer work for me...:chuckle Cheers.

Tequila and Beer work for me...:chuckle Cheers.

Tequila and Beer work for me...:chuckle Cheers.

Eng 102 is a literature class and requires reading and analizing many different types of stories, peotry etc... My only comment is that everything is do-able if you are a good student. Just keep in mind that with nursing classes there is very little extra time for leasure reading. One of my professors told me in my first nursing class that in order to do well you should read, study, talk about nursing all day long until it feels like there is nothing else going on in your life but nursing...from my experience she was right. Just some food for thought. Good luck, dave :)

But according to all of my Pharm tests we would never asssume the 20mg/ml or have to look it up in a book. The drug would clearly be marked with more than just a 2% lidocaine. I believe her initial question was correct that enough info was not given.

If you are going to go full time and are looking to do well you need to allow about 80 hours a week, between classes, lab, clinical, paperwork, research and studying.

3.856 with 46 credits done. I get perfect, above average clinical ratings and am proud to have gotten $2200 worth of scholarship money this past May. Do I strive for perfection???You bet I do. I have heard all of the stories that c students make beter nurses than "A" students. That always comes from "c" students...Nothing personal but some of us are naturally beter at this stuff than others. It was that way in kindergarden and it is that way in nursing school. Get over it.......... As for me, I push hard to be the best. In softball, in skiing, in (well my wife says I am a great lover)... Bottom line is some of us strive for the best others are happy to get by. The nursing classes are definately a lot harder than the prerequesites. They require a different level of test taking. My GPA suffered terribly with a B+ in one of my first nursing classes. Now I study harder and better. Just my $0.02... have a great day all, dave :)