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Again...you miss the point with being so quick to become defensive. That attitude will do you a great disservice in healthcare. Is this not you assuming something about them?

where's the face palm smiley face?

You're missing the point...while you may not cry in front of others, I'm sure there have been plenty of middle-aged women AND men who have cried due to stress in clinical. In fact, search for it in the forums and you'll see. All we're trying to say is don't pass judgment on others. Like others have said, this kind of attitude doesn't reflect well on you. And honestly, as someone who interviews and hires new nurses, attitude like this is something that I really look out for. Resume, professional dress? Yeah we notice that, but how you really talk about others you've dealt with is what we focus on. Other managers feel free to chime in, but we really do care about your "retail job, or restaurant jobs" because that shows how you deal with other people, so keep that in mind.

I agree, don't wish death on someone...regardless of how annoying and unprofessional they are. Also, why does his age matter?

Let's turn this into a positive. Your instructor is hard on you, that's a good thing. The reason she's on hard on you is probably because you set the bar very high. You said you had done very well with all prior things...if your head isn't in it, that's not up to par with how you normally perform. Also, other students may not be performing as well as you are, so the instructor may be focusing on the very basic things with them. If their assessments aren't charted until later, it's because they are with the instructor doing something else...so you can't compare how you're treated to the way they are, especially if you're ahead of them with your performance. Back when I was in nursing school, I got sent home from clinical one day because I didn't have EVERY med on the MAR ready and forgot what one of them was for(this was first semester). She said she sent me home because I usually perform very highly and that I wasn't up to my potential that day. Don't go reporting this or anything, but instead just meet with your instructor and get some feedback.

If you understood how to do it, you wouldn't be confused by the answer. Those two answers are VERY different.

I've been through the BSN and MSN programs...like they've said before, it's very individualized. When I was going through school, I didn't think it was that bad. I did work full time, still had friends, socialized, etc. Nursing school is no different than any other school. Those who say it's very very hard want to make it sound like if they struggle, you should struggle. It's a challenge for some and of those challenged and struggling, some of them don't want to feel alone. Some people have the mindset of "it was hard for me or I failed, so EVERYONE struggled and failed". If you want to see challenging, look at med school or pharmacy school, biochemistry, physics majors? Their math problems are more than a page each sometimes. When you look at what nurses do with 10mg equals how many pills when each pill is 5mg? You tell me if that's the same as calculating the bare minimum angle based on to determine the friction to avoid falling down a hill. Or the math behind out a drug interacts with certain cells in certain parts of the body....no comparison.

And doing it for them helped them learn how?

Start looking at what those who were successful did. No excuses...pick yourself up and find out what it will take to do better next time. And nursing school doesn't expect you to quit those other things. Many people work and have a family, yet they're still successful. Find out what went wrong and stop focusing on the half that failed.

THIS!

I was a new grad who went into LTC...specifically an LTAC(long term acute care) facility within our main hospital downtown. Were there horror stories? Yes Did people frown and say that sucks when I told them where I worked? Hell yes. Did I make the best of that experience? Well lemme tell you, in 3 years...I can stick an 18 guage IV in a 90 pound 95 year old patient with rolling veins, Foleys are 2nd nature, codes, vents, wounds, assessments, time management, skills you don't even realize you have will shine. I'm not at the bedside anymore, but I'm now certified in Gerontology and I'm about to graduate with my MSN in May. I've developed a Geriatric course for my hospital since I work over in education/corporate. Nursing should be something you're proud of, wherever it is you do it. It's a profession. My advice....STOP listening to the horror stories, and like someone else said...burnt out and you haven't even done it yet? I've only been a nurse 4 years now, but I've realized in dealing with many new grads in orientation, there's a sense of resentment against LTC, med/surg, and a few other areas. NURSING IS NURSING WHEREVER YOU GO. For all those who want to work ICU and refuse to look at med/surg, you do realize that many ICU units have no Nursing assistant? So you get to have your ICU patient, but you get to clean, bathe, and turn them...isn't that what people fear about med/surg and the "floor"??

Where do people get this stuff? It's actually the opposite. If you can work LTC, LTAC, Extended care of any sort...you get the assessment skills, IV skills, Foley skills, Vent skills, experience with codes, etc.

Just gonna leave it at this...it finally comes out to all those who were curious, there WERE other incidents...a list apparently And you STILL don't get it...you feel everything has been a punishment and accusation. No fault ever lies in the hands of the accused right?

Thank you for admitting you didn't prepare. That's the first step to fixing it...next, meet with your instructor because they can see what you need to focus on.

I'm going to bullet point this one. sorry ahead of time if this sounds mean. I've gone through the BSN and MSN programs, so...here goes -Falsifying documentation, you should quit nursing now -You're a student, you're there to learn -You can't love actual nursing because A. you're a student and haven't taken the time to see what nursing really involves, B. you admit you haven't learned anything. C. you don't sound willing to learn the basics -What seems to be BS busywork is the foundation of nursing. If you look at Nurse Administrators they do change projects, look at change agents, quality improvement projects, etc -What nurses do on a daily basis are the things you write out in a careplan -If your careplan says you haven't done anything, take the initiative to find more to do or a more difficult patient -Rubric? Rubric says you have to have X, Y, and Z in an assigment. I you're X lacks in content, research, structure, grammar, etc. then yes it will be graded differently. -If you haven't learned anything in 2 years, that's your fault for not voicing your concern to them or changing programs

Ummmmm...that's not a good mindset to have. "Trust no one". Sounds like X-files lol I also find it funny how students find the reasons other students fail as unfair. Here's my 2 cents, instructors and faculty do not publicize why someone failed. The only account you have of that is from the student who failed...EVERY time (and you see it in court everyday since we talk about litigation) someone will be the victim. If you hear about someone randomly killing 40 people, their lawyer will say "my client is innocent, self defense". So my advice...STOP speculating why your friends failed, you won't get the whole truth.

lol yes I am. That's the fun in these forums...one person assumes, the next assumes, the next says they aren't assuming but said exactly what the previous person says. Hell yeah I'm assuming haha. Bottom line though, 9/10 with threads starting like this about something was "unfair or arbitrarily done" ...it's all in how the student/nurse/person in general reacts to criticism and feedback given to them. If I were leading a group of students, and I told someone they weren't taking initiative or need to be more proactive...and they proceed to start talking like they're in court and ask (being facetious here) "to the incident in question, upon which pieces of evidence do you base your assumption". I'd fail you too. Reason you ask? Unprofessionalism...you're a student, they're a teacher, take your criticism and fix whatever the fault is. If a teacher says "omg you suck at time management". Is that nice to say? No. But you being the student, fix your time management and move on.

Not to be mean, but prioritization of tests is her responsibility. And again, she didn't fail by a HALF a point...she failed by many points adding up.

Based on what the OP said "letting patients do whatever they want"...I'll tell you that's a bad mindset to have. You have to take initiative when patients don't willingly agree with you. If the patient said "I guess", that means take the initiative and do the procedure! I can't think of one nurse who said patients will always do what you ask when you ask. And why are you talking like you're in court? Always more to a story. Now regarding the comments about "I heard about a girl who was failed because the teacher didn't like them, or my friend was failed because the teacher was unfair". Of course when MANY people are failed they will cry foul and say it wasn't their fault. Or when a few people fail a test, they will say "NO ONE PASSED"...come on

I'm thinking he did argue with her. In the original post he mentioned asking her to "clarify what she based this assumption on". Now...going out on a limb too lol...but I'm willing to bet a dollar when she said he lacked initiative he said word for word with some look on his face "um. what are you basing this assumption on". As a nurse who deals with orienting new people to the hospital, don't talk to me about assumption when I give you feedback. If I give you feedback and say you lack initiative and spoke with the nurse about this, there is no assumption. That's what nurses call an "assessment".

I don't usually disagree with any of the comments in this thread...however, the comments about not going into nursing if you want a social life while in school, or for the money...not true While in school, I had a good social life, hung out and played xbox like anyone else...and did well in school. So how you handle your free time in school is very individualized, everyone is very different. Some people may not have a life, but many people do have lives, children, jobs, and families. Also advising people that going into nursing for the money is a bad idea...again not true. If you choose to work the weekends or nights, you can easily double what a weekday person makes, especially if you are an official weekender. My weekender BASE rate was $8 more an hour than the typical weekday RN rate, add $12/hr in night/weekend shift diff and you are good to go. Pick up a shift off the needs list with some OT and you can make twice what others make while working equal or less hours. Also as a weekender I worked 2 nights, off 5 nights. This is in a city that has a lowww cost of living too, so you can easily double your bedside shift salary. In those expensive cities up north, you can make 100k a year at the bedside, but your cost of living up there is higher. I gave that up for a desk and MSN, etc. Brings up my next point of, if you go back to school or further your degree into leadership you can make bank..$200,000 and up a year bank on the CNO levels plus bonuses. It's all in what you're willing to invest in yourself and your career. If you want to complain about working holidays, nights, or weekends...your pay may reflect that. If you don't want to move up the career ladder, your pay may reflect that as well.

Haha reading these comments brings back memories of school. Every comment describes someone or multiple someones you will meet in school. So here's mine Don't go to nursing school if you A-find any comments in this thread mean or offensive B-feel that these comments describe you C-can't be enterained or tolerate people who have been described by these comments

Bottom line, do the best you can at the best school you can. No guarantee your "easy" school will leave you with a higher GPA...plus they may leave you with a failed NCLEX. Just sayin... I vote lock this thread before it gets some arguments started.

Core temp? Psh who needs a messy rectal reading...chances are it's contaminated anyway :poop: hahaha

Dunno bout you...but if you didn't make them bleed you took the temp wrong :)