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I find location to be important when i am buying a house, not when i am going to school. I would like to live in Miami for a couple of years, however, you may as well like in Northern Cananda as you'll only be inside studying anyhow. At least i would hope so, I would want my CRNA hitting the books pretty darn hard.

to OP, nope didn't like it at all.

i suppose a congratulations is in order, eh?

study guide for questions they will ask you, i presume......i imagine a ccrn book would be best but if you're gonna do that, why don't you study, take the test, pass and then go to the interview? Not like you can do it in a week....but i am sure you could in 2 mos or less.

Go work at Mass. General.......that way it would be a tad easier to publish in NEJM.

Sorry, missed the last part of your statement. I think it is because you would have a hell of a lot less nurses applying, completing their degree, graduating etc. that would only make things worse. IMO.

Hey RedCell and others reading this thread........after getting through the "Report of the AANA Task Force on Doctoral Preparation of Nurse Anesthetists" (which, by the way, had entirely too small of a sample size.....so take it with fair sized grain of salt), i am starting to understand more point of views on the subject. I think it is very important to understand where everyone is coming from on the subject, including but not limited to the crna schools, the -ologists, the currently practicing crnas with no masters as well as those with masters degrees (concerning being grandfathered in), current crna students, new grads (concerning going back to school) and me, of course. I would recommend the read to everyone here. It has some interesting points. A couple of things that i read i would like to point out. This comments is completely asinine and will only cause more of a rift between nurses and docs....the comment went something like this: CRNA school is like doing medical school and residency in 2 years. Now, i know it is only one comment, but it is comments like these that can sour the relationships between entire anesthesia groups. Personally, i think that there should be stratification regarding pay and or benefits for crnas with any sort of post masters degree.....seems like good old capitalism will bring us that way anyhow. comments?

because a BSN has nearly nothing in common with more mainstream science majors. math- minimal, you may have even tested out of the requirement inorganic chemistry- one class usually physics- almost universally not required stats- one class organic chemistry- not required at all biochem- usually not required for BSN I think it is safe to say that a BSN is not a science major.

nope, don't too late! just playin'........seriously though, you could be a CRNA and retire by the time that some people graduate crna school.

new scale coming....... http://www.ets.org/Media/Newsletters/GRE/2006/0601_scale.html .....but by the looks of your score and the previous scale...you only need about 10 more questions correct to get to about a 930 and 15 more to get above a grand. I am sure there are very easy things to correct in your previous test, like trig and geometry or learning a new word per day. I get a new word per day from merriam-webster. easy to do and you can always save the words in a new folder. Seriously, how many times a day do you check your e-mail.....come on, tell the truth now..... http://www.merriam-webster.com/word/subscribe.htm

I have come to the personal understanding that the DNAP is a complete joke and will provide nothing.......in the way of anything. I have also come to understand that if i want to love what i do and love why i do it, i will need an actual PhD and not a DNAP.......CHEMISTRY ROCKS MY WORLD!!!!!!!!:heartbeat:D:yeah:

you could probably get a shift in per week.....probably wouldn't be a good idea to push it since the training is intense for a reason. even better would be to get a feel for the workload at your school and then decide how much you can work. remember, you aren't the first to work while in crna school and you won't be the last.

I'm not talking about a DNAP, I'm talking about a PhD in physiology or pharmacology, biochemistry that could be useful and lucrative. You attend PhD classes during or after your MS is completed. Has anyone completed any of these programs?....and if so, please describe it for us as I am interested in finding out as much as I can about them. Also, please let us know if you took PhD classes during your MS degree or waited, whether you went full time or part time and whatever other basics you can think of and how it has helped you in clinical practice setting.

good luck....and pick the nurses and doc brains.....they'll like it and you'll benefit.

pencil, paper, dictionary/thesaurus and trig/geometry book. that should get you a 1300 easy.......oh, and some C8H10N4O2......lots of it!

Captain, Do you have any idea why the levels of autonomy are so different? Also, do you know what type of autonomy it is.....say procedural, like floating a swan in the Navy and not in the Airforce, or maybe being able to do emergent trauma anesthesia in one branch and not the other? Just curious.....I am not surprised to see that the levels of autonomy are present, rather i am surprised that they differ by a magnitude great enough for it to be considered when choosing a branch.

i was in the military for 5 years. I do not recommend joining for the sole purpose of gettng into CRNA school. There is too much of a heirarchy regarding time in the service, time at your duty station, and of course the waiting to go , not because you are the most qualified but because you are behind another gal or guy at the same duty station. They do pay for a lot of stuff like old student loans etc, but you can make enough to pay off the loans incurred during CRNA school inside of 2-3 years. Just my opinion.

Esa, I think that is a fabulous idea. I am surprised that i have not heard of it before now. Seems like a common sense path towards a job in business and nursing and it is strange that school have not thought to advertise about it. I am curious as to whether a straight MBA or MPH would be more lucrative and functional with respect to your end goal. I live in Columbus, Ohio and Ohio State University, as a whole lets students "design" their own degrees allowing students to combine, for examplt aspects of 2 different masters when things like this arise. Good luck to you.

that was quite low. If she wants to be referred to doctor she needs to get a job in the humanities dept. of a local college. This chick sucks. a PhD in biochemistry is one thing, but sociology? Seriously. For the record, i don't think anyone should refer to themselves as Dr. in a hospital setting unless they are amongst peers in a professional presentation and people know they have a PhD.

good one....funny stuff.

These individuals you speak of are more than welcome to introduce/refer to themselves as Dr. So-n-so in an educational environment......be it in the Nursing school/college or on even on the unit as your clinical instructor. You would be hard pressed to find an MD who would be offended by a PhD prepared nursing clinical instructor called Dr. So-n-so by their respective students. Now, this thread is about the DNP prepared CRNA and these individuals introducing themselves as Dr. SO-n-so to the patient during pre-op procedures. IMO, I find this inappropriate as it strongly suggests to the patients that these PhD CRNAs are anesthesiologists. If we all keep in mind that we would be pursuing a DNP for the benefit of our patients, we should not have a problem with clarifying, once again, for our patients, that we are a doctorally prepared CRNA and not a medical doctor should we choose to use the title Dr. So-n-so.

most people with their PhDs do, in fact, go by doctor but they certainly don't do so in a hospital setting. A person with a PhD in organic chemistry would not introduce themselves as Dr. So-and-so for obvious reasons. I do understand that organic chemistry degrees are rarely seen in the medical setting attached to people that have less than an MD degree, or PhDs for that matter. (I am not saying that they don't exist or that people who do not have an MD are not smart enough to get a PhD......so get all of that rebuttal crap out of your system before responding). There is a distinct problem with introducing oneself as Dr. SO-and-so when in fact they are not a medical doctor. We can all see the reasons for that.....avoid confusion of the patient and prevent the representation of yourself as a physician. The other side is.....what is the point of getting a PhD if you can't say doctor? The point is to improve patient care and be the best anesthetist you can. We should police ourselves if we do want to say the Dr. title by adding the fact that you have an advanced nursing degree, the DNP, and you are a CRNA administering the anesthesia. Since i am a nurse, i know all of the stuff that is going on with someone just by reading their badge, however, not everyone is as well versed in the health care hierarchy as we are....we owe it to all of our patients to prevent misrepresentation and discern between a DNP and an MD with every single introduction....if one chooses to use the Dr. title. JMHO

congrats's on the new grand baby....girl i assume.....Morgen is sort of a co-ed name.

I think it is time to "buck up" and get your *ss in gear with opening those books again. I recommend reading through your critical care nursing book and then your pathophysiology book. Review heart rhythms the entire time and make flash cards of lab values for absolutely everything. Good luck to you.......all you need to do is catch up to the knowledge base of the nurses on staff. Not really that hard at all. Also try and find new skills to perform on the unit whenever possible. (p.s. I have already been doing this and i haven't even started orientation for my ICU job.......YOU CAN DO IT!!!!)

teaching hospital.....by far.